Bernie Sanders
Related: About this forumCalling Himself a Socialist Was One of Bernie Sanders’ Smartest Moves
By Jordan Weissmann
Bernie Sanders famously likes to refer to himself a democratic socialist. Not content to label his views as merely liberal or progressive, the presidential candidate reaches all the way for the s-word, which has been basically verboten in post-World War II American national politics. This has led to some debate over what, exactly, a "democratic socialist" actually is, and whether one can accurately or usefully call the man any kind of socialist at all, given that his views actually line up quite well with those of many fairly mainstream members of the American left. The discussion has even sucked in the prime minister of Denmark, which Sanders has held up as a possible model for the United States. (Denmark, the prime minister would like us to know, is far from a socialist planned economy.)
So today, during at speech at Georgetown University, Sanders defined his terms. His talk didn't contain any huge surprises. "I dont believe government should take over the grocery store down the street or own the means of production, he said, thus disavowing the strict Marxist definition of socialism with a dose of grandfatherly humor. But I do believe that the middle class and the working families who produce the wealth of America deserve a decent standard of living and that their incomes should go up, not down. I do believe in private companies that thrive and invest and grow in America, companies that create jobs here, rather than companies that are shutting down in America and increasing their profits by exploiting low-wage labor abroad.
In short, Sanders believes in a basic market economy with a large welfare state and a healthy amount of regulation. He would like a $15 minimum wage. He would like free tuition at public colleges. He would like the wealthy and corporations to pay more taxes. He would like single-payer health care.
Whether you think it makes strict sense to call all of this democratic socialism is obviously going to depend on your view of the term socialism. As I've written before, it's certainly not what revolutionaries in 19th century Europe had in mind, given that they very much wanted to seize the means of production. Bhaskar Sunkara, founder of the socialist magazine Jacobin, is upset that Sanders doesn't emphasize power more in his formulation. But as Dylan Matthews has argued, it's also fair to think of modern socialism as a reform movement that evolved from the hardcore Marxist parties of old, and decided to accept capitalism while sanding off its rough edges with a larger welfare state. In that view, the European social democracies that Sanders so admires are just socialism's more mellow grandkids.
In the end, it's not really useful to get bogged down in arcane arguments about terminology. Sanders uses socialist because it signifies that he wants to see fundamental changes in politics. He talks sincerely about a political revolution that will bring more Americans out to vote for their interests, and in that sense, take power. When I use the word socialist, and I know some people are uncomfortable with it, I say it is imperative that we create a political revolution, that we get millions of people involved in the political process, and we create a government that works for the many, not the few, he said during a question-and-answer session. It's a lot easier to talk about "revolution" and distinguish yourself in the eyes of voters when you're willing to rhetorically signify a hard break with the rules and mores of mainstream American politicking. And, given the way so many Democrats have responded, it's turned out to be surprisingly good branding. Strictly apt or not, calling himself a socialist might have been one of Sanders's smartest moves.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2015/11/19/bernie_sanders_defines_democratic_socialism_it_s_not_all_that_socialist.html
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)in such an unapologetic fashion - the more he explains the very common sense tenets of his political philosophy - the more I find it absolutely brilliant. No other candidate is going to go there, and there is really the most desirable place for a candidate to be when it comes to convincing the people. He's a much better political player than I. I trust Bernie. The old timer knows what the hell he's doing.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)Except occasionally for not being far-enough to the Right. And it has worked stupendously well. The Overton window has moved far to the right over the last 40 years.
Bernie gets how to use this to start moving the Overton window back to the left.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Like wearing diapers with prostitutes, or hiking the applation trail with a call girl, or whatever, and it always works...
bvf
(6,604 posts)The left (through no small fault of its own) has been on the losing end of the language war for far too long. Remember when Bush the Senior referred to "the 'L' word" to choruses of jeers from the hoi polloi on the right?
Sanders's embrace of the term "socialist" as in "democratic socialist" is a breath of fresh air. It's up to us to make sure people realize what it truly means, and to point out emphatically how its principles benefit us all (except, that is, for the 1%).
Lewis Lapham many years ago wrote an excellent op-ed as editor of Harper's on the subject. I'll try to look it up--a great read, as I recall.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Embracing the label and defining it is the best course of action. Running from it will just look cowardly and it's definitely not going to convince anyone of anything.
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)with the terms democratic socialist and political revolution, from day 1. But then, I "Got it" on day 1 too.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)To me, Bernie is most about returning democracy and if the majority favors the issues he favors they should be implemented according to a government of, by, and for the people. Bernie is a great patriot leading those who will fight for rule by democracy not money and gerrymandering. Bernie is us and we get it.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)To me, Bernie is most about returning democracy and if the majority favors the issues he favors they should be implemented according to a government of, by , and for the people. Bernie is a great patriot leading those who will fight for rule by democracy not money and gerrymandering. Bernie is us and we get it.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
merrily
(45,251 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)on what these policies actually mean in terms of real world solutions. I too would like to see far more people voting. And voting for their interests. Regardless of whether he wins the nomination, I hope he has sparked an interest in voting and an interest in politics in millions of people.
I hope it will stimulate many more people to enter politics, work with democrats, run for office and win elections. Policy-wise, the democratic party needs to welcome these voices. Present voters with clear distinctions. Shift toward the left and provide a clear path forward for unions, organized labor, working people, the working poor, people of every race & gender.