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I can' talk about Lib Dems in the Home Counties at the moment

I used to have a Home Counties Lib Dem as my MP (Colchester's Bob Russell, not perfect, but as good an MP as you'll get these days) but I honestly don't have any real idea of how things might pan out in Colchester this time around.

What I can say is that here in North East Derbyshire the Lib Dems used to be a strong presence in local government and used to be quite active. Then after they went into coalition their leaflets immediately became markedly more right wing in tone. And when local elections came around in 2011 they got virtually wiped out locally as people decided that there really isn't any need for a surrogate Tory party. And we haven't seen a single Lib Dem leaflet since 2011 so they've clearly given up round here.

Nearby the Lib Dems nearly took Sheffield Central from Labour in 2010 and also narrowly lost Chesterfield to Labour, but this time round I think Labour will make big gains at their expense in those constituencies.

The Lib Dems decline is not good for democracy as we do need a strong 3rd party offering a good alternative to the tripe from the main parties. And whilst their local leaflets could be dodgy in all kinds of ways, you could at least get a vague idea of what's going on with the local council from them.

True

Politics has ceased to be about serving the common good and the greatest happiness of the greatest number. It's become all about hatred, scapegoating and spite.

Prescription drugs cause liberal outburst

Satire based on one of UKIP's many gaffes. (UKIP being the British equivalent of the Tea Party).

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/prescription-drugs-cause-liberal-outburst-2014121893963

A COMMITTED racist and homophobe has blamed pain-killing medication for a string of cogent arguments in favour of multi-culturalism and gay rights.

Tom Booker, 47, from Chelmsford shocked bigoted friends at a lunchtime drinking session with a plea for racial and sexual tolerance.

Fellow bastard Roy Hobbs said: “One minute Tom was his usual self, ranting incoherently about how the local council are giving Slovaks free Range Rovers and lesbians spread Ebola.

“The next he was mounting a well-reasoned defence of EU freedom of movement policy backed up by verifiable financial data, not just stuff he had heard off a bloke at work.”

The thing I don't get...

....is why so many politicians think it's acceptable to send pictures of yourselves as Christmas cards. These people really do need to be reminded that Christmas is not all about themselves.

Mind you, as my old man used to say, "show me a politician and I'll show you a man with his house full of mirrors".

I don't rate Ed Miliband

Under his leadership Labour has drifted aimlessly. He doesn't seem to have any vision for what he wants for Britain, other then more power for Ed Miliband of course.

However, is there anybody on the Labour front bench who can rectify these problems? Not that I can see.

The Labour party at the present time is incapable of representing the people the party was set up to serve. Labour's problems run deep and stabbing the party leader in the back is not going to be any sort of magic wand that will make these problems go away.

Alex Salmond has resigned as 1st Minister

He will also be stepping down as leader of the SNP.

As much as I could never abide the man or his politics, he was a considerably talented politician and I think the SNP may struggle to replace him.

Not entirely surprised by this

Carswell always did seem more of a UKIPer then a Tory, with his continual arguments about EU withdrawal.

I do know a few people in that area (was last down there in November for a dinner party in Frinton-on-Sea). It's a constituency that's very receptive to the UKIP message and he is well regarded as a local MP, so I can see quite a lot of people going with him.

Shocking stuff

Some thoughts

1) The Police & Crime Comissioner for South Yorkshire, Shaun Wright, was responsible for children's services at Rotherham Council from 2005 to 2010. His position is looking untenable.

2) Far right knuckledraggers are queueing up to make the Pakistani community scapegoats for this, but abuse on this scale can't happen without involvement from people outside that community.

3) I would not be surprised if this isn't just going on in Rotherham. For starters, were victims in Rotherham shipped elsewhere for others to abuse?

4) I have been rude about Rotherham Labour party on here before, and the fact that Rotherham politics is so utterly dominated by 1 party only makes those in power more able to get away with cocking things up. If the main opposition flagging up this issue is groups such as UKIP, who have no real regard for Rotherham's best interests then that doesn't make things any better either.

We anti-war protesters were right: the Iraq invasion has led to bloody chaos

Article that sums up my own views of the situation in Iraq very succinctly.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/12/anti-war-protesters-iraq-invasion-bloody-chaos

I have encountered no sense of vindication, no "I told you so", among veterans of the anti-war protest of 15 February 2003 in response to the events in Iraq. Despair, yes, but above all else, bitterness – that we were unable to stop one of the greatest calamities of modern times, that warnings which were dismissed as hyperbole now look like understatements, that countless lives (literally – no one counts them) have been lost, and will continue to be so for many years to come.

The catastrophic results of the Iraq invasion are often portrayed as having been impossible to predict, and only inevitable with the benefit of hindsight. If only to prevent future calamities from happening, this is a myth that needs to be dispelled. The very fact that the demonstration on that chilly February day in 2003 was the biggest Britain had ever seen, is testament to the fact that disaster seemed inevitable to so many people.

In a way, opponents of the war were wrong. We were wrong because however disastrous we thought the consequences of the Iraq war, the reality has been worse. The US massacres in Fallujah in the immediate aftermath of the war, which helped radicalise the Sunni population, culminating in an assault on the city with white phosphorus. The beheadings, the kidnappings and hostage videos, the car bombs, the IEDs, the Sunni and Shia insurgencies, the torture declared by the UN in 2006 to be worse than that under Saddam Hussein, the bodies with their hands and feet bound and dumped in rivers, the escalating sectarian slaughter, the millions of displaced civilians, and the hundreds of thousands who died: it has been one never-ending blur of horror since 2003.

The invasion was justified as an indispensable part of the struggle against al-Qaida. Well, to be fair, large swaths of Iraq have not been handed over to al-Qaida: they are now run by Isis, a group purged from al-Qaida for being too extreme. Iraq and Syria are trapped in a bloody feedback loop: the growth of Isis in Iraq helped corrupt the Syrian rebellion, and now the Syrian insurgency has fuelled the breakdown of Iraq, too. Those who believe that the west should have armed Syria's rebels should consider the fact that Isis reportedly raided an arms depot in Syria which was stocked with CIA help. Support from western-backed dictatorships in Saudi Arabia and Qatar has fuelled the Syrian extremists now spilling over into Iraq.

Ah, tactical voting...

...at the last European elections I saw a number of parties all arguing that you should vote tactically for them as the only way to stop the BNP. You soon realise that with so many parties making the same claim about themselves they cannot all be right.

As you say, the BNP vote appears to be collapsing but now a large proportion of the knuckledraggers appear to be lining up behind UKIP. And most of the minor parties standing appear to be UKIP splinter groups. In fact I would go as far as to say that this European election is starting to resemble a right wing version of the "Peoples Front of Judea" scene from Monty Python's Life Of Brian.

As to the Lib Dems, they are the only genuine option left for people who are all in favour of all things EU. However, as much as I want Britain to stay in the EU, there is a lot about the EU that I do not like and would want to see reformed. As such I have never considered the Lib Dems at European elections, even in the days when they were half decent under Charles Kennedy.
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