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Combat Vets Destroy the NRA’s Heroic Gunslinger Fantasy

Combat Vets Destroy the NRA’s Heroic Gunslinger Fantasy
The last thing a chaotic crime scene needs is more untrained civilians carrying guns.

By Joshua Holland OCTOBER 5, 2015

“I think there’s this fantasy world of gunplay in the movies, but it doesn’t really happen that way.” —Retired Army Sargeant Rafael Noboa y Rivera

Those who have carried weapons into combat or to make an arrest scoff at the very idea.“It’s insane,” says Stephen Benson. He recalls an anecdote from his first pistol class in basic training. “We put on our issue .45s, and our instructor said, ‘Gentlemen, the first and most important thing you’ve done by putting on that weapon is you’ve increased your chances of being in a gunfight by 100 percent.’ That’s a lesson that a lot of people don’t get. More guns means more gunfights. And the idea that in a chaotic, pressurized, terrifying situation, they’re going to do the right thing is ridiculous.” He adds: “The NRA and the gun manufacturers have been able to lie about this without being confronted.”

Rafael Noboa y Rivera agreed, adding that he’s personally wary of
“untrained yahoos” who “think they’re Wyatt Earp.”

A firearm makes a person almost twice as likely to become the victim of a homicide and three times more likely to commit suicide.

“Despite what we see on TV, the presence of a firearm is a greater risk, especially in the hands of an untrained person,” says David Chipman, the former ATF agent. “Someone can always say, ‘If your mother is being raped by 5 people, wouldn’t you want her to have a gun?’ Well, OK, if you put it that way, I’d say yes, but that’s not a likely scenario. The question is: If you see someone running out of a gas station with a gun in their hand, do you want an untrained person jumping out and opening fire. For me, the answer is clearly ‘no.’


NYT EDITORIAL: Shut Down the Benghazi Committee

The Opinion Pages | EDITORIAL

Shut Down the Benghazi Committee

House Republicans may be disinclined to disband the Select Committee on Benghazi with the presidential race heating up. But at the very least they should rename their laughable crusade, which has cost taxpayers $4.6 million, “the Inquisition of Hillary Rodham Clinton.”


Lawmakers have long abused their investigative authority for political purposes. But the effort to find Mrs. Clinton, who was secretary of state at the time of the Libya attacks, was personally responsible for the deaths has lost any semblance of credibility. It’s become an insult to the memory of four slain Americans. ...

Mrs. Clinton is scheduled to testify before the committee on Oct. 22. The hearing will give Republicans another chance to attack the credibility and trustworthiness of the leading Democratic presidential candidate. It will do nothing to make American embassies abroad safer or help the relatives of the four killed in Libya.

The hearing should be the last salvo for a committee that has accomplished nothing. If the Republicans insist on keeping the process alive, the Democrats should stop participating in this charade.


2005: Fiorina out, HP stock soars

CEO who engineered Compaq merger leaving after fight with board; will walk away with $21 million.

February 10, 2005: 9:15 AM EST
By Paul R. La Monica, CNN/Money senior writer

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Hewlett-Packard Co. Chairman and CEO Carly Fiorina, one of the most powerful women in corporate America, is leaving the troubled computer maker after being forced out by the company's board.

Shares of HP (Research) jumped 6.9 percent in heavy trading on the New York Stock Exchange Wednesday on the news. But at one point, the stock was up as much as 10.5 percent.

"The stock is up a bit on the fact that nobody liked Carly's leadership all that much," said Robert Cihra, an analyst with Fulcrum Global Partners. "The Street had lost all faith in her and the market's hope is that anyone will be better."

Fiorina, the only female CEO at a company in the Dow Jones industrial average, had been with HP since 1999. But the company's controversial deal to buy Compaq in the spring of 2002 -- after a bruising proxy fight led by one of the Hewlett family heirs -- has not produced the shareholder returns or profits she had promised.

"While I regret the board and I have differences about how to execute HP's strategy, I respect their decision," Fiorina said in a statement released by the company.


"IT fired" "no one was charged"

Police: Boy, 11, fatally shoots 12-year-old brother at Ohio property in target-shooting outing
An 11-year-old boy killed his 12-year-old brother in eastern Ohio, where the man they were with had gone target shooting with a friend, Sheriff Dale Williams of Carroll County said Tuesday. The shooting occurred while the boys, from Moore, S.C., were visiting rural Lee Township, about 50 miles west of Pittsburgh. The sheriff said three loaded weapons were on a picnic table Friday afternoon when the younger boy picked one up and it fired. The older boy was struck in the head and died at the scene. Sheriff Williams said no one was charged.

Bobby Jindal: It was the dad's fault
Jeb Bush: Stuff happens
Ben Carson: Dead children are less important than owning guns
Wayne LaPierre: The 12 year old should have had a gun
Gun nut: What caliber? Revolver or semi?

Bill O'Reilly Denies The Existence Of Child Hunger: "It's A Total Lie"

O'Reilly: "You Are Telling Me That You Believe In The United States Of America ... There Are Urchins Running Around That Don't Have Any Food Because Of The System?"


What NO Computer or big screen TV

America is a ‘Leader’ in Child Poverty

The U.S. has one of the highest relative child poverty rates in the developed world. As UNICEF reports, “ material well-being is highest in the Netherlands and in the four Nordic countries and lowest in Latvia, Lithuania, Romania and the United States.”

Over half of public school students are poor enough to qualify for lunch subsidies, and almost half of black children under the age of six are living in poverty.

$5 a Day for Food, But Congress Thought it was Too Much.

Nearly half of all food stamp recipients are children, and they averaged about $5 a day for their meals before the 2014 farm bill cut $8.6 billion (over the next ten years) from the food stamp program.


PEOPLE Magazine Supports Obama-Asks Americans To Call Their Congressman & Support Gun Controls

People Magazine Takes Stand on Gun Violence
BY JESS CAGLE 10/07/2015 AT 06:00 AM EDT

In this week's issue of PEOPLE, Editorial Director Jess Cagle used his Editor's Letter to address the frequency of mass shootings in America. We have also published the office telephone numbers for all 535 voting members of the House and Senate. We urge readers to contact their elected representatives to make their voices heard.

Cagle's letter:

On Oct. 1, after a madman killed nine victims at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., we covered every horrible development of the story on people.com, and we began planning our coverage of the massacre for this issue of the magazine. It's so heartbreaking and infuriating to think how many times over the years we've done exactly this—reaching out to victims' families and survivors of mass shootings, gathering details about the fallen.

As President Obama said, our responses to these incidents – from politicians, from the media, from nearly everyone – have become "routine." We all ask ourselves the same questions: How could it happen again? What are we doing about gun violence in America? There are no easy answers, of course. Some argue for stricter gun laws, others say we should focus on mental health issues, some point to a culture that celebrates violence.

But this much we know: As a country we clearly aren't doing enough, and our elected officials' conversations about solutions usually end in political spin.

In this issue we pay tribute to the nine Oregon victims, as well as 22 other men, women and children who've lost their lives in mass shootings – incidents where a murderer has opened fire on a crowd – in the U.S. during the past 12 months.

That definition of "mass shooting" is pretty narrow; the number of victims skyrockets if you count other types of multiple shootings like domestic violence and murder-suicides. So far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive, there have been 10,006 gun-related deaths in the United States, and the CDC says firearm injuries and deaths are "a significant public health problem."

I think about mass shootings when I'm on a train, and when the lights go down in a movie theater, and when I see children in a classroom.

We need to know that our representatives in Washington, D.C., are looking for solutions and not giving up, and they need to know if we agree or disagree with their strategies. We urge you to contact your representative to make your voice heard – you can find your representative's contact information by clicking here http://www.house.gov/htbin/findrep and entering your zip code. Let's make sure they know from now on that routine responses just won't cut it.

Jess Cagle, Editorial Director


LOL! Today we pray for Trump

Roughly three-dozen leaders attended the two-and-a-half hour meeting at Trump Tower, including televangelists Gloria and Kenneth Copeland and Trinity Broadcasting Network co-founder Jan Crouch, who is also the president of a Christian theme park in Orlando.

As it came to an end, televangelist Paula White said Trump wanted them to pray for him. Trump nodded, and the faith leaders laid hands on him and prayed.

Many evangelical leaders look askance at the crowd the businessman is courting. “The people that Trump has so far identified as his evangelical outreach are mostly prosperity gospel types, which are considered by mainstream evangelicals to be heretics,” said outspoken Trump critic Russell Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, the country’s largest Protestant denomination at 16 million members.


Bernie Sanders wants Wall Street execs jailed for 2008 financial crisis

Bernie Sanders wants Wall Street execs jailed for 2008 financial crisis

_“It is an obscenity that people in this country are getting arrested at near record rates for smoking marijuana, but not one Wall Street CEO has been prosecuted for triggering the Great Recession in 2008,” he said. “Millions of Americans lost their jobs, homes, life savings and ability to send their kids to college because of the greed on Wall Street. We can no longer tolerate a criminal justice system that treats Wall Street executives as too big to jail when their actions have ruined the lives of so many Americans.”_


Oh My, The Pope Is "So Radical"


Take Away Guns, And Someone’s Just Gonna Invent, Manufacture, & Use A High-Powered Knife Launcher

You remove guns from the equation, and knife-launching massacres will just replace the shootings. There’s no two ways around it.

As long as there are criminals in the world who set their minds to causing bloodshed, they’re going to find a way to do it. And if you take away the nearest tool for the job, all they’ll do is think of, draw up, manufacture, test, redesign, retest, practice until they obtain a degree of proficiency, and employ a new means to take innocent lives. That’s just common sense, plain and simple.

The simple, tragic fact is that some people will die at the hands of the angry, the hateful, and the mentally unstable. And that won’t change whether the deaths are caused by bullets or by knives flying through the air at 1,500 miles per hour.

All that cracking down on gun ownership would accomplish is violating the constitutional rights of millions of Americans, while doing absolutely nothing to stop some sick, twisted person from murdering dozens with a rapid-fire dagger blaster six months from now, or in a year, or next week, or however long it takes them to devise such a device as well as a method of quickly and efficiently reloading dozens upon dozens of knives into the weapon’s launching chamber and then carrying out their horrific plans.

And don’t say we could just prevent that by banning knife launchers. A criminal could easily kill just as many people with a fully automatic baseball bat flinger.

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