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Roland99

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Wed Jan 16, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jan 2019

Nancy Pelosi’s Winning Strategy
She beat George W. Bush on Social Security privatization, and she’ll beat Trump on the wall.

Pelosi’s strategy resembles the one she employed to debilitate another Republican president: George W. Bush. Bush returned to Washington after his 2004 reelection victory determined to partially privatize Social Security. “I earned capital in the campaign, political capital,” he told the press, “and I intend to spend it.” Bush’s plan contained two main elements. The first was convincing the public that there was a crisis. Social Security, he declared in his 2005 State of the Union address, “is headed toward bankruptcy.” The second was persuading Democrats to offer their own proposals for changing it.

As Matthew Yglesias pointed out not long ago, a fallacy underlay Bush’s argument. Even if you believed Social Security was going bankrupt, diverting some of the tax money that funds it into private accounts wouldn’t solve the problem. It would make the problem worse. To mask that glitch, Bush needed to lure Democrats into offering proposals that actually shored up Social Security’s finances—by cutting benefits, raising taxes, or cutting other spending—but were highly unpopular. Americans would presumably prefer Bush’s cotton candy to the Democrats’ broccoli, and thus empower Bush to fulfill the decades-old conservative goal of ending Social Security as a program of social insurance.

Aiding Bush’s effort was the fact that prominent Democrats had proposed tinkering with Social Security in the past. In his State of the Union address, Bush observed, “During the 1990s, my predecessor, President Clinton, spoke of increasing the retirement age. Former [Democratic] Senator John Breaux suggested discouraging early collection of Social Security benefits. The late [Democratic] Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan recommended changing the way benefits are calculated.” Bill Clinton and Joe Lieberman had even toyed with private accounts.

But Pelosi, then House minority leader, wouldn’t take the bait. She denied that Social Security was in crisis. And she refused to offer a plan for changing it. When a member of Congress asked when Democrats would offer their own proposals, she replied, “Never. Is never good enough for you?”
Headline and snippet... Roland99 Jan 2019 #1
The difference zipplewrath Jan 2019 #7
No fucking fig leaf. The GOP has been doing this for nine years now. I am over it. Stand firm and Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #11
At some point zipplewrath Jan 2019 #12
I don't agree...it is a waste of time. It would take months so should be a nonstarter. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #14
Not if it opens the government zipplewrath Jan 2019 #16
He turned them down... Lindsey essentially wanted this. Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #25
Then we win. We have always said we'd talk if they open the government while we're talking. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #27
No we wouldn't. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #15
We would if it seemed trivial zipplewrath Jan 2019 #17
Refusing to commit to a wall is not being "trivial." SunSeeker Jan 2019 #28
Refusing to have a committee would zipplewrath Jan 2019 #49
There is already a committee. We just refuse to be used as a photo op for Shitler. SunSeeker Jan 2019 #54
My facts are fine zipplewrath Jan 2019 #56
No this has to end. We give no fig leaf to the Russian scum bag traitor president...he needs to have Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #26
It won't be to him zipplewrath Jan 2019 #29
We'll never look as stupid as we'd be if we accepted a stupid, stupid wall. It's a non-starter. ancianita Jan 2019 #37
But something else zipplewrath Jan 2019 #38
So what do we do. ancianita Jan 2019 #43
Several Options zipplewrath Jan 2019 #45
If they make the effort, knowing it's all on them, I'm all for it. Thanks. ancianita Jan 2019 #46
The R's could have done whatever they wanted re: border security Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2019 #52
"Talk about real solutions" zipplewrath Jan 2019 #55
+1 ancianita Jan 2019 #34
She is also teaching Chuck his job and how to do it. WhiteTara Jan 2019 #47
THIS BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #53
Should have 500 recs malaise Jan 2019 #2
Nancy's always got her eye on the ball MaryMagdaline Jan 2019 #3
Absolutely. She's playing tough, and she will win. KitSileya Jan 2019 #4
Indeed. There's a reason they're still there, and it's not "corporatism" ehrnst Jan 2019 #21
Agree. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2019 #5
She's teaching Chuck too. WhiteTara Jan 2019 #48
Experience we can trust! NANCY PELOSI ROCKS!!! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #6
HI Nurse! +100000000 Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #13
Personally, I want an experienced pilot during a horrific storm, not a rookie who thinks that ehrnst Jan 2019 #22
+Millions! Cha Jan 2019 #58
Hoperfully, the "fresh blood" are taking notes. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #8
The "fresh blood" should learn from the battle hardened experienced leader. IronLionZion Jan 2019 #9
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #10
And actually all these "newer, younger folks" may have overlooked... brush Jan 2019 #31
Youth might bring us sensible gun laws and single payer healthcare eventually IronLionZion Jan 2019 #35
We're all counting on their votes for those bills when they come up. brush Jan 2019 #40
You don't put a rookie sailor at the wheel during a deadly storm ehrnst Jan 2019 #18
Lol, crickets from those who questioned Pelosi flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #19
Or said that her being reviled and targeted by the GOP was a "problem." (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #20
True. Like GOP has a problem finding new targets flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #23
She is shining now! left_of_center Jan 2019 #32
They said she was "weak". athena Jan 2019 #51
I trust her to lead fishwax Jan 2019 #24
Great Atlantic piece. They correctly give her credit for saving SS under Bush. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #30
Yep. Fresh new blood - soon enough. But NOT NOW!!! calimary Jan 2019 #33
Pelosi is Arguably the Most Successful Politician in DC History & a Woman-Thus She is Villified dlk Jan 2019 #36
It's an easy lesson to learn ... Toorich Jan 2019 #39
K&R. dchill Jan 2019 #41
K&R! gademocrat7 Jan 2019 #42
She is so on her game! LisaM Jan 2019 #44
This is why Russians and Republicans athena Jan 2019 #50
K&R Scurrilous Jan 2019 #57
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