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emulatorloo

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19. Well said, and Biden is anything but prideful. He's also won a lot of elections.

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Axelrod: Biden 'pride' may cost him election [View all] brooklynite May 9 OP

Hmmm. Whose side is Axelrod on? Support the Dem candidate for God's sake. brush May 9 #1

Axelrod is a political strategist brooklynite May 9 #5

Axelrod. doesn't like Biden and never did...so his words are not relevant really. Although I am disappointed with such Demsrule86 May 9 #60

All of your citations are responses to Biden political strategies. brooklynite May 9 #61

Give me a break...not once did he ever say anything positve about Biden...seriously he is scum. Biden has to beat Trump. Demsrule86 May 9 #67

I voted biden I_UndergroundPanther May 10 #101

I find that nonsensical...so Biden needs to address your issues or you won't vote? Sorry vote Democatic in every Demsrule86 May 10 #135

I vote democratic in every election as well. I_UndergroundPanther May 11 #149

It's not the message. It's the means. shrike3 May 11 #164

Unfortunately, some Obama people are not Biden people PatSeg May 10 #127

What do Axelrod want to accomplish? Do they want to help elect Trump. Biden is the nominee. He beats Trump or Trump Demsrule86 May 10 #136

I think it pisses him off that PatSeg May 10 #141

There is no question that Biden has achieved more legislation...although Obama gave us health care. I doubt my husband Demsrule86 May 10 #144

Yes, they were both excellent presidents PatSeg May 10 #147

Axelrod has been on every network including Fox...trashing Joe Biden so while he may be a political straegist of sorts, Demsrule86 May 9 #64

See posts 24 and 65. brush May 9 #74

Biden should ask the people if they want a Socialist as President LiberaBlueDem May 9 #78

Not a socialist by classic definition...from each according to his/her ability, to each according to her/his needs... brush May 9 #79

But the people think Biden is responsible LiberaBlueDem May 9 #80

Not even close. Joe will tell you at the drop of a hat that he's a capitalist. brush May 9 #84

Right LiberaBlueDem May 9 #87

Axelrod was one of the "Biden should step aside" people. shrike3 May 9 #90

Hmm Wonder who "Prideful" Axe thought should Cha May 9 #94

Why isn't he doing this in meeting rooms, rather than in a public forum? shrike3 May 11 #166

Axelrod hates Biden and regularly trashed him...I wouldn't one sentence on a guy makes appearances on Fox and trashes Demsrule86 May 9 #65

Agreed. I remember during the 2020 campaign he tried everything to stop Joe from getting the nomination. brush May 9 #72

I don't know why but there is bad blood...the sneered at Biden before South Carolina...and then breathlessly Demsrule86 May 9 #77

Yes, he needs to stop the near-repug spew about Joe. brush May 9 #82

I read recently that during the Obama years, PatSeg May 10 #129

Frankly Alexrod seems to have a personal grudge against Biden. Anybody know the history? emulatorloo May 9 #2

The history of a non-existent grudge? No I don't brooklynite May 9 #6

Constructive criticism good. Chronic hate boners bad. emulatorloo May 9 #10

I listen to him regularly and don't hear "chronic hate" brooklynite May 9 #12

You're a smart guy who I agree with a lot. But we all have blind spots. emulatorloo May 9 #16

Naturally. Oopsie Daisy May 9 #22

Possible history, I wonder? emulatorloo May 9 #24

Oh great.. a much longer history Cha May 10 #102

Have you ever listened to his podcast with Mike Murphy (Republican) or perhaps seen him on Fox... He trashes Biden on a Demsrule86 May 9 #68

Tell me the nice things he has said...if you can think of any. Demsrule86 May 10 #140

Maybe his buddy Barack Obama needs to have a word with him and set him straight. greatauntoftriplets May 9 #20

Axe is Depressing the fucking Vote I know this. Cha May 9 #21

And there it is! Biden was right...yet again! BComplex May 9 #39

Thank You! 🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸😎 Cha May 9 #41

I didn't know about this! sheshe2 May 9 #55

AXe is Projucting his "Pride" on to Pres Biden, Cha May 9 #57

I remember this. Yeah, it's personal. shrike3 May 9 #92

Thought So .. and it's Not Cha May 9 #93

I believe it dates back to when Biden was a vice-president...He has called Axelrod a prick...which IMHO is true. Demsrule86 May 9 #66

10% working class tax cut. Make the wealthy pay for it. It's a slam dunk no brainer. He might not get it through brewens May 9 #3

I keep saying that people vote by their wallets. Alliepoo May 9 #4

+1... myohmy2 May 9 #56

Not this year. Roe Roe your vote. We have won every election since 2016. This one will be no different. Demsrule86 May 10 #111

People also care about reproductive choice, Elessar Zappa May 11 #158

It's not the message. It's the way Axelrod chose to deliver it. shrike3 May 11 #165

Biden is contrasting his record with TFG's Raven123 May 9 #7

"I hate Trump's corruption, but I heard that a political strategist didn't like Biden's campaign message, so....." brooklynite May 9 #8

I hope not...I would like to believe since Biden is the only one who can beat Trump that Axelrod should STFU. Demsrule86 May 9 #69

And his Democratic cohost... brooklynite May 11 #168

If it doesn't matter, why say it? shrike3 May 11 #167

Axelrod's been doing this for awhile Ritabert May 9 #9

Axelrod said Biden was to old in November which is when he became dead to me...He is as Biden reportedly said... Demsrule86 May 9 #70

Agreed Ritabert May 10 #130

Maybe "You can't tell voters they're wrong in how they feel", but I think endless apologies and caveats... Silent3 May 9 #11

"I feel your pain" brooklynite May 9 #14

My memory is fuzzy on how "I feel your pain" worked out for Clinton. Silent3 May 9 #18

If you ever saw Clinton in person... brooklynite May 9 #63

He Was RobinA May 13 #171

How didn't it work out? BeyondGeography May 9 #32

It worked out well he served two terms. live love laugh May 9 #35

He lost 2 Presidential elections right? awesomerwb1 May 9 #42

Good grief. With friends like these... NewHendoLib May 9 #13

How many elections has David Axelrod won? Walleye May 9 #15

There is time to fix the message. SleeplessinSoCal May 9 #17

Well said, and Biden is anything but prideful. He's also won a lot of elections. emulatorloo May 9 #19

Yesh the "pride" thing is Axe just putting Salt Cha May 9 #23

I think you're exactly right BannonsLiver May 9 #46

STFU Axelrod!!!!!!!!!!!! N/T Upthevibe May 9 #25

THANK YOU!! Yeah AXE is AN ASSHOLE. Cha May 9 #31

Axelrod is always a big downer. He wasn't very helpful to Hillary skylucy May 9 #43

Oh Yeah, skylucy.. and Axe has Cha May 9 #48

Yeah, Axelrod was just the campaign manager for the last two term Democratic president. former9thward May 9 #95

No really, others ran the show which is part of the reason why Axelrod is furious...He didn't get enouh TV time as he Demsrule86 May 10 #110

Not at all accurate. former9thward May 10 #114

Im torn on this. I have a ton of respect for both Biden and Axelrod. honest.abe May 9 #26

I don't. President Biden is the only one who can beat Trump. Fuck Axelrod. Demsrule86 May 9 #71

Just as a matter of curiosity, what do you think he has been niyad May 9 #96

I've been saying this for weeks. Ms. Toad May 9 #27

Big 3 oil companies made $85 billion profit last year 303squadron May 9 #28

You tell them to stop being greedy I_UndergroundPanther May 11 #151

They would shrug it off like water off a duck 303squadron May 11 #155

Maybe it's time to end the profit I_UndergroundPanther May 12 #169

Do you have a plan for that? nt 303squadron May 13 #170

Rewrite it I_UndergroundPanther May 14 #172

Axelrod appears to have a personal hatred of Biden for some reason or another. Vinca May 9 #29

Seems like a fair comment. Why so many comments angry at Axelrod? Doodley May 9 #30

Because Axe is a fucking Vote Depressing Asshole That's Cha May 9 #36

Because this is something he could have taken up with the campaign. shrike3 May 9 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Doodley May 10 #134

Fuck Axelrod he's made prior negative comments about Biden. live love laugh May 9 #33

The election is not won in May, it's won from Columbus Day forward bucolic_frolic May 9 #34

Axelrod also said Biden is too old. So is Axelrod. Hassler May 9 #37

I noticed a difference in him on his Podcast MOMFUDSKI May 9 #38

He sold out and even has a GOP host on the podcast. He is paid by CNN to trash Biden. I believe he works for them. Demsrule86 May 9 #73

Telling hungry people "Yes, but the GDP reports are good!" is out of touch Sympthsical May 9 #40

Really? Where Iive. Jobs are plentiful and pay way better than when Trump was president...all the restaurants are fully Demsrule86 May 10 #139

No offense but Sympthsical May 10 #146

I agree, but why not pick up the phone and call the campaign? shrike3 May 11 #162

Same here I_UndergroundPanther May 11 #150

How does saying this publicly help things? shrike3 May 9 #44

Thank you MustLoveBeagles May 9 #50

Exactly. Axelrod was part of the "Biden should step aside crowd" not long ago. shrike3 May 9 #85

Biden must address this SARose May 9 #45

No he should not. Demsrule86 May 10 #112

Nope. He's wrong. Joinfortmill May 9 #47

This is dumb. Biden is running a very similar campaign on the economy that Obama ran in 2012. My Own Worst Enemy May 9 #49

Welcome to our DU family. niyad May 9 #97

Message auto-removed Name removed May 10 #100

Oh for gawdsakes Biden's "Pride" may lose his re-election. Trump is the one that doc03 May 9 #51

Axelrod is currently doing a "both sides" podcast with Kellyanne Conway. I think it is safe to ignore his advice. FSogol May 9 #52

Mahalo! Cha May 9 #89

Biden always acknowledges there is more work to be done to help people FloridaBlues May 9 #53

Sounds to me like it's axelrod's pride that's the problem here. unblock May 9 #54

Explain how Trump's proposals (increased tariffs, mass deportations) make things worse Freethinker65 May 9 #58

How an issue in the US compares to ann issue annywhere else is irrelevant. brooklynite May 9 #62

Actually, it is relevant. Freethinker65 May 9 #75

It is not relevant to the average voter. brooklynite May 9 #81

I have not doubt...but I don't agree just as I didnt on Fetterman...you Sen. Fetterman. Demsrule86 May 9 #59

I don't care if you disagree brooklynite May 9 #83

Well Fetterman ended up winning now didn't He? This was despite the meeting where with you and Fetterman which I Demsrule86 May 10 #137

So you didn't answer the question. brooklynite May 10 #142

How many general elections has Biden won? How many general elections has Axelrod won? ms liberty May 9 #76

You don't know that. dawg May 10 #107

😆 ms liberty May 10 #117

Nope-- in the end, the inflation rate and interest rates will determine how people feel/vote about the economy andym May 9 #86

Not this time. Roe Roe your vote. Demsrule86 May 10 #124

Axelrod has become irrelevant duckworth969 May 9 #91

Constructive criticism? You are telling us what he is doing wrong. What should he do? question everything May 10 #98

it worked larwdem May 10 #99

Oh, ridiculous. First there was whining that Democrats didn't tout their accomplishments enough and now betsuni May 10 #103

I get the point to an extent but Cosmocat May 10 #104

Never underestimate the stupidity Algernon Moncrieff May 10 #132

Mr Axe-to-Grind is an ass, but not wrong IbogaProject May 10 #105

But why say it publicly? shrike3 May 10 #108

He hates Biden and he is wrong...he is all about money know...and hops from one venue to another spreading his poison Demsrule86 May 10 #109

I disagree with Axelrod LetMyPeopleVote May 10 #106

To everyone saying Axelrod is obnoxious or "has a grudge"..... brooklynite May 10 #113

Bad venue but not untrue IbogaProject May 10 #115

i do believe it is the everyday living expences that are hurting Biden-. It is constant and riversedge May 10 #116

We are a group we have to be willing to pitch Biden IbogaProject May 10 #120

That is nonsense...and a bit right wing. We have had a good recvery. Demsrule86 May 10 #123

Yes, he wants Biden to lose. He doesn't care about this election. clearly he would not be jumping from venue to venue to Demsrule86 May 10 #122

So what you're saying is.... brooklynite May 10 #125

Really trying to help Biden is he? I suppose saying Biden is too old is constructive criticism? Not in my book. Demsrule86 May 10 #138

If he wants to help, why isn't he saying it privately? shrike3 May 11 #156

Why do you imagine that his saying it publicly has any negative impact? brooklynite May 11 #157

Why do you imagine saying it publicly has any positive impact? shrike3 May 11 #159

If we've established that it neither helps nor hurts... brooklynite May 11 #160

You didn't answer the question. Why would saying this publicly have a positive impact? shrike3 May 11 #161

Damn, that is brutal PatSeg May 10 #131

What about Biden turned Axelrod against him? flamingdem May 10 #118

I don't know but it dates back to when Obama was president. Axelrod wasn't getting on the TV shows,I have heard he Demsrule86 May 10 #126

I found this old article that explains PatSeg May 10 #133

Excellent article...and think it is true. IMHO Biden delivered the rust-belt to Obama in both 08 and 12 with a some Demsrule86 May 10 #143

I'd picked up hints about the anti Biden bias PatSeg May 10 #145

The economy is stellar compared to what it COULD be flamingdem May 10 #119

Feeling inadequate Axelrod? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 10 #121

Or perhaps promote left populist reforms Voltaire2 May 10 #128

When will Democrats ever learn? lees1975 May 10 #148

Seeing Bibi is a Republican , its not surprising he is pulling this off to avoid going to prison himself. Traurigkeit May 11 #154

Dear Gawd claudette May 11 #152

What "pride" is he pulling out of his --- ? Yup, when you are not a Republican the GOP media Traurigkeit May 11 #153

Walmart and other corporate behemoths are bullying small businesses and driving up prices Biden needs to be Humble! Flash953 May 11 #163