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Beastly Boy

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132. This is like saying that the only element that prevents me from owning a 50 foot yacht is

Fri May 10, 2024, 06:07 PM

May 10

that my intent to pay for it cannot be immediately established.

In all other respects, I am its legitimate and proud owner, right?

Yhis makes even less sense than your previous post.

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Hillary Clinton slams anti-Israel protests on college campuses, says students have been fed propaganda [View all] Beastly Boy May 9 OP

Madam Secretary says the protesters are ignorant and misinformed by propaganda... sarisataka May 9 #1

Social media is full of lies. Elessar Zappa May 9 #2

We better figure this ancient conundrum out soon. markodochartaigh May 9 #35

You really think someone would do that? JoseBalow May 9 #41

The truth doesn't crack thick skulls. Check out the demosincebirth May 10 #103

K&R betsuni May 9 #3

If you agree with something, then it is the truth. If you don't, then it's propaganda. elocs May 9 #4

??? wnylib May 9 #39

I don't ForgedCrank May 9 #61

Truth and facts aren't propaganda, nothing to do with emotions. "Agree" is for opinions. betsuni May 10 #89

She's absolutely right. The ignorance of history and facts shown by marybourg May 9 #5

+1,000,000 wnylib May 9 #7

And Hillary is right to call out the failure of teachers. yardwork May 9 #9

I haven't seen any "pro-hamas" posts here on DU. Think. Again. May 9 #14

Right! I mean folks who compare Hamas leaders to Nelson Mandela aren't necessarily pro-Hamas! tritsofme May 9 #15

Just keep walking AZSkiffyGeek May 9 #16

Neither do I, I definitely haven't seen that post! Think. Again. May 9 #17

I have NickB79 May 9 #77

It was one of many posts that I screen shot revmclaren May 10 #95

It's not necessary to prove it. yardwork May 11 #158

Yes, we have. Obviously why all the references -- gaslighting won't work. betsuni May 10 #96

Calling violent radical religious fundamentalist terrorists "freedom fighters" isn't pro-terrorist! betsuni May 9 #38

Yesh, it can be Denied all they Cha May 9 #67

and some posting that the brutality of October 7, with the mutilations, and rapes didn't really happen isn't JohnSJ May 9 #53

Why are you calling that poster a troll? obamanut2012 May 10 #107

Huh? Those are your words, not mine. tritsofme May 10 #108

It was the person who replied to Tritsofme who did the troll accusation... Violet_Crumble May 11 #199

... mcar May 10 #122

"News" that amplifies Axis of Resistance (i.e. Triunvirate of Terrorism) talking points lapucelle May 11 #177

Those videos seem to actually be still shots... Think. Again. May 11 #184

The videos were posted here. lapucelle May 11 #187

Are you not willing to back up your claim... Think. Again. May 11 #188

Sorry. That doesn't work on me. lapucelle May 11 #191

Are you now saying you have NOT read pro-hamas posts on DU... Think. Again. May 11 #193

Like I said, that doesn't work on me. lapucelle May 11 #194

I see, this discussion is obviously not a discussion. Thank you for your input. Think. Again. May 11 #196

It was never a discussion. lapucelle May 11 #198

Well, at least we established that there have been no pro-hamas posts on DU. Think. Again. May 11 #200

Don't presume to speak for me or in my name. I am no part of your "we". lapucelle May 11 #201

I agree 1000%! ShazzieB May 9 #47

Well said. yardwork May 11 #159

The fact these students are willing to interject themselves into the miasma misanthrope May 10 #88

For the first time in my life I actually wish the protesters would go check it out for themselves. yardwork May 11 #160

So glad to see a prominent Dem leader say what I've been saying wnylib May 9 #6

Just to clarify... Think. Again. May 9 #12

Yes, I know. And my posts have pointed out wnylib May 9 #19

Hillary has No Fear! She knows what Cha May 9 #8

Ditto, Cha! ffr May 9 #42

Mahalo, ffr! Cha May 9 #48

Interesting campaign strategy for sure. WhiskeyGrinder May 9 #10

Is she running for something this year? BannonsLiver May 9 #13

Riiiiight. Yea, whatever. paleotn May 9 #18

Hillary is Right.. "students have been fed propaganda"! Cha May 10 #136

You should watch the clip before making ass-umptions about her points. emulatorloo May 11 #179

Hi, I read the article you linked to... Think. Again. May 9 #11

Ummm, maybe they aren't real sure what exactly they're protesting about? paleotn May 9 #20

I wouldn't know what the protesters are aware of as far as the history... Think. Again. May 9 #22

Not sure how you read that, but to me that's a slam.... paleotn May 9 #23

The article pretends she is "slamming" the protests... Think. Again. May 9 #26

Not different topics. The false information is about the wnylib May 9 #43

Again, the article pretends she is "slamming" the protests... Think. Again. May 9 #49

She laments the "garbage in, garbage out" nature of the protests. Beastly Boy May 9 #62

No, she doesn't speak about the protests at all. Think. Again. May 9 #63

She speaks about the protesters. And their ignorance. Beastly Boy May 9 #66

Perhaps you should watch the original interview.... Think. Again. May 9 #70

Watching the interview was the first thing I did. Beastly Boy May 9 #72

You honestly feel that article was a reliable... Think. Again. May 9 #74

I don't feel, honestly or otherwise. I do check for accuracy, though. Beastly Boy May 9 #82

Thank you for sharing and for taking the time to read the article. ecstatic May 10 #140

Just witnessed a protest at the #1 public university... mjvpi May 11 #204

That quote does not even mention protesters Diraven May 12 #209

You're right, she doesn't slam the protests, she slams the ignorance of the protersters. Beastly Boy May 9 #25

Thank you. Think. Again. May 9 #27

At least after getting a high school diploma lapfog_1 May 9 #68

Hi I read the article too. Progressive dog May 10 #127

I know right? she never said a word about the protests. Think. Again. May 10 #128

No, she just talked about the ignorance of the protesters Progressive dog May 11 #153

We're discussing the misinformation of the article, aren't we? Think. Again. May 11 #154

You are discussing your assertion of disinformation Progressive dog May 11 #155

Oh, I see, because you want to point out... Think. Again. May 11 #156

What imaginary friend are you trying to communicate with? Progressive dog May 11 #157

Are you Okay? Think. Again. May 11 #161

... AnrothElf May 11 #162

Just a few links to other articles about Clinton's thoughts on the protests Progressive dog May 11 #163

And some articles on her thoughts about netanyahu... Think. Again. May 11 #165

So now you want to conflate what Hillary thinks about the protesters to Progressive dog May 11 #166

What do her thoughts on the dangers of social media misinformation... Think. Again. May 11 #167

Watch the interview on MSNBC Progressive dog May 11 #168

I did, I actually posted it above. Think. Again. May 11 #169

Yes, the students have been fed propaganda. intheflow May 9 #21

Afte reading the article... Think. Again. May 9 #24

I know that many here do not the history of the Middle East. Butterflylady May 9 #30

Very true... Think. Again. May 9 #34

This. We can see the bombing in real time. ExciteBike66 May 9 #46

I recommend you the read description and watch the actual interview emulatorloo May 11 #180

I've noticed Sec. Clinton isparticular skillful of amking obvious statements in such as way as to Torchlight May 9 #28

I've never thought of her as a troll... Think. Again. May 9 #29

Most likely no intent on her part, just a penchant for the subtly obvious Torchlight May 9 #32

or maybe her words were taken out of context and twisted... Think. Again. May 9 #33

Or maybe Torchlight May 9 #36

um, you started it? Think. Again. May 9 #40

Wow. jimfields33 May 10 #100

Deep thought. jimfields33 May 10 #101

You don't troll sealions, because sealions are themselves trolls NickB79 May 9 #79

Okay then... Think. Again. May 9 #80

Sealions are incredibly persistent! betsuni May 10 #124

Yeah, not to mention.. Cha May 10 #137

I'd be a terrible sealion, would never spend that much time on something unless it was my job! betsuni May 10 #146

.. Cha May 10 #150

Hillary's not a troll. ShazzieB May 9 #84

I believe you responded to the wrong poster. Think. Again. May 10 #97

Regarding that last assertion... SYFROYH May 11 #164

Yep, Madam Secretary knows of what she speaks. BlueTsunami2018 May 9 #31

I wouldn't call that "slamming" or "tearing into" (not the OP's fault). LisaM May 9 #37

Yep. She didn't slam or tear or even use the word ignorant. chowder66 May 9 #50

She is also very concerned about ignorant people taking over the narrative. Beastly Boy May 9 #60

Exactly. The ignorance about the Palestinian's refusing Nixie May 10 #102

Here's one attempt to get students' actual knowledge wnylib May 9 #73

My favorite: "I want to see empire fall ... free Hawaii!" betsuni May 9 #87

Yeah, I have a hunch that she's not on the Dean's List. wnylib May 10 #91

Headache inducing and all kinds of shady. TheKentuckian May 10 #141

Hillary was stating facts, not "slamming." SunSeeker May 9 #44

Post removed Post removed May 9 #45

I guess HRC will get turned against now. Just like people have turned on John Fetterman AZLD4Candidate May 9 #51

But Ms. Clinton didn't even mention the protests... Think. Again. May 9 #54

But, but. . .what about all the babies the Hamas Government in Gaza has claimed Israel killed? AZLD4Candidate May 9 #57

Yes, that's exactly the kind of misinformation she is warning against. Think. Again. May 9 #58

She was responding to Joe, who DID mention the protesters, in rather unflattering terms. Beastly Boy May 9 #71

The propaganda that I was fed growing up was: "Israelis Good/Palestinians Bad" Sky Jewels May 9 #52

Me too... Think. Again. May 9 #55

I don't think you're remembering correctly. Jedi Guy May 10 #104

Oh, so it was 17th century Germans who first... Think. Again. May 10 #105

Sigh. No, they weren't conflating anything with the Palestinians. They were referring to the Biblical Philistines. Jedi Guy May 10 #106

Didn't you just tell me that... Think. Again. May 10 #109

Deliberate obtuseness, as expected. Carry on, then. N/T Jedi Guy May 10 #111

Obtuse? But those were YOUR words! Think. Again. May 10 #112

Do you grasp the concept that the Philistines and the Palestinians are not the same people? Jedi Guy May 10 #113

But didn't you just point out the connection when you wrote... Think. Again. May 10 #114

I sure didn't. You assumed that connection because it suits your purpose. That's not my problem. N/T Jedi Guy May 10 #115

Again, those were your words. Think. Again. May 10 #116

You grasp that a land and a people are not the same thing, right? Jedi Guy May 10 #117

To attempt to deny that... Think. Again. May 10 #120

Kindly cite a source, because I've never once heard it used specifically to refer to the Palestinians. Jedi Guy May 10 #125

Here's a quick source... Think. Again. May 10 #126

Back under your bridge, please. I think we're done here. N/T Jedi Guy May 10 #129

it's about time. Think. Again. May 10 #131

For you to slink back under your bridge? Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. Jedi Guy May 10 #133

Projection. Think. Again. May 10 #135

I am not sure how appropriate this response is to the OP in which HRC is warning us of Beastly Boy May 9 #64

Yes they are. Sky Jewels May 9 #86

No they are not. Beastly Boy May 10 #92

+1 betsuni May 10 #94

The only element absent in the charge of genocide... Think. Again. May 10 #110

You are not saying that a legal definition of a crime is contingent on one man's lack of honesty, are you? Beastly Boy May 10 #118

I am clearly saying that the element of intention is... Think. Again. May 10 #121

This is like saying that the only element that prevents me from owning a 50 foot yacht is Beastly Boy May 10 #132

No, you would not yet be the legitimate owner, just as charges have not yet been brought against netanyahu. Think. Again. May 10 #134

Exactly my point. Intent is as essential in my becoming a legitimate owner as it is Beastly Boy May 10 #138

You do understand that the common language use... Think. Again. May 10 #139

In the same way the common language use of "You are killing me!" does not describe attempted murder. Beastly Boy May 10 #142

Well no, more like how "homicide" has a legal definition of a criminal charge... Think. Again. May 10 #143

Actually, "murder" is a legal definition. It denotes premeditation. Beastly Boy May 10 #144

Oh stop, people can come to conclusions on their own without a court involved. Think. Again. May 10 #145

You're kidding, right? Beastly Boy May 10 #148

I'm not kdding.... Think. Again. May 11 #151

As I keep repeating, apparently to no avail, "genocide" is a legal term, describing a crime. Beastly Boy May 11 #170

As I keep trying to remind you... Think. Again. May 11 #171

I am not disputing the misappropriation of "genocide" to be used in common language. Beastly Boy May 11 #172

It hasn't been appropriated... Think. Again. May 11 #173

I will not let this thread to descend into etymology. Beastly Boy May 11 #174

Finally. Think. Again. May 11 #175

I was very patient, but my patience has its limits. Beastly Boy May 11 #176

Well, really, we were just going around and around. Have a great night. Think. Again. May 11 #181

Can I private message you Beastly Boy ? revmclaren May 11 #189

It is not "just a common word people use", at least not serious people. lapucelle May 11 #178

I suspect the common-use word was in common use... Think. Again. May 11 #183

I don't think that's correct. lapucelle May 11 #185

oh, so I was right... Think. Again. May 11 #186

No, actually you were wrong. lapucelle May 11 #190

No, I was right... Think. Again. May 11 #192

Yes, I know. The word was coined in 1944 and was recognized as a crime in 1946. lapucelle May 11 #195

The word was introduced into common-usage (as opposed to legal terminology)... Think. Again. May 11 #197

"it's just a common word people us [sic]" lapucelle May 11 #202

I think it's obvious that... Think. Again. May 11 #203

Nope. You yourself made the distinction between "the common-use word" and "in common use". lapucelle May 11 #205

You're really reaching now. Think. Again. May 11 #206

... lapucelle May 11 #207

Hillary Clinton is on point peggysue2 May 9 #56

I agree, her interview was very clear about... Think. Again. May 9 #59

Is President Biden misinformed too? ecstatic May 9 #65

If this is a serious question, no. Beastly Boy May 9 #69

Biden has referenced indiscriminate bombings and now he has set a red line. ecstatic May 9 #81

Did Biden ask Hillary any questions? Did Hillary respond to Biden? Beastly Boy May 9 #83

Clinton said the people protesting the bombings and mass slaughter in Gaza are misinformed. That's why I asked ecstatic May 9 #85

HRC made no comment about the bombing and mass slaughter. Beastly Boy May 10 #90

Yes and no. The history of the Middle East ecstatic May 10 #98

What does this have to do with Biden being misinformed "too"? Beastly Boy May 10 #99

I guess we're just not on the same page here (or you're playing around). I asked for clarification and explained why ecstatic May 10 #119

You keep asking for clarification of things I am not talking about. Beastly Boy May 10 #130

Why don't you watch the actual interview to hear what she actually said. emulatorloo May 11 #182

I admitted on another post that I didn't read the article or see the video until later. ecstatic May 11 #208

Yeah the headline was just awful. Total misleading clickbait. Thanks for the reply. emulatorloo May 12 #210

Is Biden chanting, "Free, free Palestine. Ceasefire Now. From the River to the Sea. Globalize the Intifada"? LeftInTX May 10 #123

Sec Clinton is so right. I only watch BBC News on PBS, and the coverage is so pro Palestine that it's actually.... Tarheel_Dem May 9 #75

And the Chinese shot Yitzhak Rabin LuvLoogie May 9 #76

HRC must have forgotten that the Chinese killed Rabin and stopped the Oslo Accords. PufPuf23 May 9 #78

Yep Sugarcoated May 10 #93

Ignorant students don't understand history and context and are fed propaganda? Ping Tung May 10 #147

I agree 100 percent with Hillary. chouchou May 10 #149

Hillary is correct... AGAIN!! Oopsie Daisy May 11 #152