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Showing Original Post only (View all)Wonkette: New Pope Already Pissing Off The Santorum Wing Of The Catholic Church [View all]
NEW POPE ALREADY PISSING OFF THE SANTORUM WING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
by REBECCA SCHOENKOPF
How is New Pope being different from Old Pope today? Well, a) he is neither a vampire nor a nazi. B) Hes refusing to live in the papal palace or wear the ruby slippers or have his chair above anybody elses chair or even refer to himself as pope. And c) he is already pissing off the traditionalists in the Church who are stroking out because when he went to a youth prison on Holy Thursday to wash the feet of the poor (instead of washing priests feet in the basilica, like a normal pope), he washed girl feet. (And Muslim feet.) NEW POPE!!!!
So, for many of our commenters, we are going to have to explain this again: Not all Catholics are fucking assholes. Oh, that did not explain it enough? Ok. There is a wing of the Church that is filled with lefties who actually serve the poor instead of determining that gay-bashing was Jesuss No. 1 bestness most funtimes favorite thing to do while he is seated at the right hand of the father. We call this the Catholic Worker wing of the Church, or the Dorothy Day wing of the Church, or pretty much most nuns, which is why Ratzinger was always yelling at them. (Because he is a dick.) (Also a Nazi.)
Now, is New Pope great on gay stuff? NOT REALLY. He called gay marriage the path of Satan or something. (Sorry, gays, that probably does not feel nice!) But, when his native Argentina was facing gay marriage, he was pragmatic enough to embrace civil unions as an alternative. This put him a couple years ahead of Colorado, and still ahead of more than half of our United States. What about the Dirty War in Argentina? WE DONT KNOW! According to his own account, he was working behind the scenes to get priests released from the juntas torture chambers. Maybe as a young man he was not saintly enough to risk himself! According to the Nobel Prize winner who exposed the junta to the world, he was cool. But according to this other investigative reporter, he was not! Wish we could be more helpful on that.
But there are more than a billion people who belong to the Church. Simply saying its evil, or a crime syndicate, or glowering about whatever it is you Terrible Ones have been glowering about, doesnt take into account how many people want to fix it how many people in the Church want the Church to ordain women, to stop with the birth control nonsense, to stop with the anti-gay cruelty, to stop shuffling priests around because priestly prerogatives are more important than children. Remember going to Europe during the reign of Bush fils? Did people yell at you? Were you like, wait a minute, WASNT ME! Even the Dixie Chicks were like wait a minute wasnt me. And now they are dead. But guess what? Now you can go to Europe again, and people will just tell you Americas so great hip hip hooray Obama fuck yeah! So. The Church is a gigantic institution filled with many asshole old men and Rick Santorum. Change comes slow to it. It took them like 500 years to apologize to Galileo. But that change can be worse (anointing Pope Nazi), or it can be better (liberalizing and modernizing the Church, like Best Pope John XXIII, and we think and hope! New Pope).
Sniffing that theres no difference between New Pope and Nazi Pope is like sniffing that theres no difference between Bush and Gore, because Al Gore isnt Ralph Nader.
Honestly, when some of you talk about the Catholic Church, you sound like Pam Gellar talking about Muslins.
You sound like bigots.
And it makes us sad.
Anyway, some traditionalists are really mad because New Pope washed stinky icky girl feet, when the Holy Thursday tradition is to wash priest feet, because apostles and the apostles were men. Maybe that is not a sign that New Pope wants to ordain women tomorrow a couple of years ago, he said Jesus was a man, so priests men arglebargle.
But we sure like seeing them all verklempt.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/509023/new-pope-already-pissing-off-the-santorum-wing-of-the-catholic-church#hPgMdVUojpZEjUxA.99
by REBECCA SCHOENKOPF
How is New Pope being different from Old Pope today? Well, a) he is neither a vampire nor a nazi. B) Hes refusing to live in the papal palace or wear the ruby slippers or have his chair above anybody elses chair or even refer to himself as pope. And c) he is already pissing off the traditionalists in the Church who are stroking out because when he went to a youth prison on Holy Thursday to wash the feet of the poor (instead of washing priests feet in the basilica, like a normal pope), he washed girl feet. (And Muslim feet.) NEW POPE!!!!
So, for many of our commenters, we are going to have to explain this again: Not all Catholics are fucking assholes. Oh, that did not explain it enough? Ok. There is a wing of the Church that is filled with lefties who actually serve the poor instead of determining that gay-bashing was Jesuss No. 1 bestness most funtimes favorite thing to do while he is seated at the right hand of the father. We call this the Catholic Worker wing of the Church, or the Dorothy Day wing of the Church, or pretty much most nuns, which is why Ratzinger was always yelling at them. (Because he is a dick.) (Also a Nazi.)
Now, is New Pope great on gay stuff? NOT REALLY. He called gay marriage the path of Satan or something. (Sorry, gays, that probably does not feel nice!) But, when his native Argentina was facing gay marriage, he was pragmatic enough to embrace civil unions as an alternative. This put him a couple years ahead of Colorado, and still ahead of more than half of our United States. What about the Dirty War in Argentina? WE DONT KNOW! According to his own account, he was working behind the scenes to get priests released from the juntas torture chambers. Maybe as a young man he was not saintly enough to risk himself! According to the Nobel Prize winner who exposed the junta to the world, he was cool. But according to this other investigative reporter, he was not! Wish we could be more helpful on that.
But there are more than a billion people who belong to the Church. Simply saying its evil, or a crime syndicate, or glowering about whatever it is you Terrible Ones have been glowering about, doesnt take into account how many people want to fix it how many people in the Church want the Church to ordain women, to stop with the birth control nonsense, to stop with the anti-gay cruelty, to stop shuffling priests around because priestly prerogatives are more important than children. Remember going to Europe during the reign of Bush fils? Did people yell at you? Were you like, wait a minute, WASNT ME! Even the Dixie Chicks were like wait a minute wasnt me. And now they are dead. But guess what? Now you can go to Europe again, and people will just tell you Americas so great hip hip hooray Obama fuck yeah! So. The Church is a gigantic institution filled with many asshole old men and Rick Santorum. Change comes slow to it. It took them like 500 years to apologize to Galileo. But that change can be worse (anointing Pope Nazi), or it can be better (liberalizing and modernizing the Church, like Best Pope John XXIII, and we think and hope! New Pope).
Sniffing that theres no difference between New Pope and Nazi Pope is like sniffing that theres no difference between Bush and Gore, because Al Gore isnt Ralph Nader.
Honestly, when some of you talk about the Catholic Church, you sound like Pam Gellar talking about Muslins.
You sound like bigots.
And it makes us sad.
Anyway, some traditionalists are really mad because New Pope washed stinky icky girl feet, when the Holy Thursday tradition is to wash priest feet, because apostles and the apostles were men. Maybe that is not a sign that New Pope wants to ordain women tomorrow a couple of years ago, he said Jesus was a man, so priests men arglebargle.
But we sure like seeing them all verklempt.
Read more at http://wonkette.com/509023/new-pope-already-pissing-off-the-santorum-wing-of-the-catholic-church#hPgMdVUojpZEjUxA.99
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Pirate Smile
Mar 2013
OP
Yes, but when the Pope calls me Satanic, that means he's really liberal and tolerant....
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#11
Pope Francis says adoption by gay parents is discrimination against the adopted child.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#9
Sorry, it is not hard to 'wrap you head around' it. He is wrong and persists in his wrongness
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#58
"I come not in peace, but with a sword; I have come to [set families apart]. --Jesus
Manifestor_of_Light
Apr 2013
#83
"..when some of you talk about the Catholic Church, you sound like Pam Gellar talking about Muslins"
Richardo
Mar 2013
#16
So, change is coming, bit it will be slow. We'll know it when it gets here honey,
toby jo
Mar 2013
#18
That Opus Deis(?) wing will be watching to see he doesn't go to far. They may spike his tea
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2013
#19
Dear Santorum Wing.....you have nothing to fear because this Pope's TRUE beliefs are no different...
OldDem2012
Mar 2013
#20
And then writes documents and gives speeches backing up the SOS of RCC policy....
OldDem2012
Mar 2013
#39
You don't have to spend time on DU to know what the RCC policies are on LBGTs and women. nt.
OldDem2012
Mar 2013
#41
I have been wondering lately, if you should ask God makes mistakes I would think they would eeply no
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#28
This Wonketter person embodies that disdain. Note how she dismisses the Pope's anti gay speech.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#29
There is no such thing as a Traditionalist Catholic in any numbers. It is a private hate group IMHO.
glinda
Mar 2013
#31
Let me clarify my statement. The whole hype in print and Media is primarily given
glinda
Mar 2013
#60
I'm sorry, but this man has spoken vile, heinous lies which strongly indicate that he
Zorra
Mar 2013
#33
Well said Zorra. I note that none of Francis' defenders can answer you or anyone with facts at hand
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#59
We Catholics better watch out, he might start hanging out with tax collectors next.
WHEN CRABS ROAR
Mar 2013
#34
very well written. progress does not mean perfection as long as the movement is forward not backward
Douglas Carpenter
Mar 2013
#43
For the first time in almost 50 years, a Pope is finally LISTENING to Catholic progressives!
ColesCountyDem
Mar 2013
#55
Thanks for posting this! Several of my posts were hidden when I said the haters here are like
Gman
Mar 2013
#57
But she defends and dismisses the hate speech from Francis toward gay people even as she wails about
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#62
While I technically agree with your objection, the comparison is far more offensive...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2013
#76
You teach kids hatred? Why the fuck do you think you belong on this board? n/t
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2013
#75
Only because you have been keeping your homophobic opinions to yourself until now...
Humanist_Activist
Apr 2013
#80