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Mr_Jefferson_24

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Sun May 19, 2013, 07:27 PM May 2013

Poll question -- You're serving as a juror... [View all]

... in a criminal case where the defendant, a 60 year old female, has pleaded not guilty claiming justifiable self-defense for killing six police officers serving a search warrant outside her front door who were using a battering ram to force their way in after being refused entry. The accused does not deny opening up on the officers with an AR-15 assault rifle from an upstairs bedroom window, intentionally killing all six officers with head shots.

Defense counsel calls only one witness, his client, and asks only one question: "What happened?" The defendant replies, "I saw six police officers outside my front door trying to force their way into my home, I feared for my life, I took appropriate defensive action." And then the defense rests.

Given the out of control police state we're rapidly evolving into, how do you vote?

Note: Drink this in before you vote: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017119388


32 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Guilty
28 (88%)
Not Guilty
4 (13%)
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I say give her the death penalty... at an Olive Garden... carried out by Pit Bulls. Bucky May 2013 #1
And what medicine would you prescribe for the officers ... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #3
I think you already said that all the cops were killed. Bucky May 2013 #6
You win Bucky -- Uncle already! Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #13
stabbed in the head with a stick arely staircase May 2013 #47
Nah, killed with head shots dr.strangelove May 2013 #109
Traditionally, Judge Bean serves whiskey in his saloon/courtroom. n/t backscatter712 May 2013 #49
lol. make mine straight. nt clarice May 2013 #101
After shopping at Wallmart ismnotwasm May 2013 #5
paid for.... Bucky May 2013 #7
You know it ismnotwasm May 2013 #15
Corn flake chicken for the last meal. pintobean May 2013 #21
Cooked by a circumcised chef. Who owns a pit bull. That's neither spayed nor neutered. 11 Bravo May 2013 #106
guilty Swamp Lover May 2013 #2
And in the case of an out of control K9... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #8
+1 Dawson Leery May 2013 #11
That would be a different poll. nt oldhippie May 2013 #19
It would be foolish H2O Man May 2013 #4
Take a chance, be a fool H20 Man... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #9
You go ahead. H2O Man May 2013 #12
So this is not a valid question? Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #14
As I stated H2O Man May 2013 #16
Ok, but don't come crying to me years from now when this thread has long since been archived... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #22
Gosh. H2O Man May 2013 #24
Not too late to change your mind -- c'mon, you can do it... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #31
Far too late H2O Man May 2013 #39
Not if you apply the presumption of innocence. rug May 2013 #23
Not true. H2O Man May 2013 #27
Assuming there was no trial order of dismissal for lack of a prima facie case, rug May 2013 #30
Nope. H2O Man May 2013 #35
Listen H20 Man... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #45
In the name of justice, H2O Man May 2013 #51
PS: H2O Man May 2013 #61
Now you're talkin' Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #73
Soon I'll be H2O Man May 2013 #75
I'll have to do a bit of homework, we'll see. Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #91
Yup. rug May 2013 #58
It's a weak OP, H2O Man May 2013 #59
evidence presented (for the pros) giftedgirl77 May 2013 #90
You assume the warrant was being properly executed. rug May 2013 #93
But they did have a search warrant muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #48
Is it a no knock warrant? Were they serving it at the wrong address (not that that ever happens)? rug May 2013 #55
Six head shots to bypass body armor. Six murders. Period. DevonRex May 2013 #60
There's nothing in there about body armor or anything about refusing entry. rug May 2013 #62
"after being refused entry" - it's in the OP muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #65
Yes, I saw that below. rug May 2013 #67
I can tell you DevonRex May 2013 #71
What you can tell me is not evidence rug May 2013 #72
The OP also specifies they were refused entry muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #64
I missed that. rug May 2013 #66
Based on your verdict of 'not guilty' for the 6 deaths muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #70
First of all, a verdict says nothing about a juror's "value of life". rug May 2013 #74
Your disregard for the officers' lives is shown by considering their deaths a reasonable response muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #96
Is your regard for human life dependent on the color of the shooter's uniform? rug May 2013 #100
We know the police officers did not enter before she shot them muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #104
So, was Diallo's shooting justified. rug May 2013 #105
In the USA, a reasonable person can interpret such a movement in that situation muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #107
So one can. But how do you come down on it? rug May 2013 #115
What do you do? Shoot the hostage in the knee; take 'em out of the equation. Bucky May 2013 #10
Of course... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #34
There are times when shouts of "Help! Police!" are a cry of warning. . . Journeyman May 2013 #17
sorry, but that police state defines the laws. nt Deep13 May 2013 #18
Ahhh, heavily loaded hypothetical polls. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #20
Heavily loaded? Isn't that what Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #26
It depends. Does she use corn flakes when she fries chicken? Autumn May 2013 #25
I wish I'd thought about that... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #28
Occasional corn flakes are a gateway to hell. Autumn May 2013 #29
I said occasionallly but I meant almost never... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #32
Almost never means she has done it at some time or another. Autumn May 2013 #33
Fair enough... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #37
I suppose if she had accidentally used corn flakes only once Autumn May 2013 #42
You're tough but fair Autumn... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #50
Don;t expect protection from the law Progressive dog May 2013 #36
And "protection from the law" is the operative phrase here too... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #38
Don't reword what I said, protection of all of us Progressive dog May 2013 #46
The fear for your life has to be reasonable treestar May 2013 #40
Really? Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #41
That's not in your hypothetical here treestar May 2013 #43
Don't make me hit the alert button Treestar. Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #52
Go ahead and hit the alert if you think making a factually geek tragedy May 2013 #112
LOL, so for the DU, criminals dressed as police have free rein! I LOVE IT! Logical May 2013 #44
And to think you call yourself Logical? Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #54
Explain how you know the people at the door are real cops? What stops any intruder from.... Logical May 2013 #56
There is no requirement for police to "knock and announce"... Gravitycollapse May 2013 #68
I have never understood why shooting a cop who enters with a no-knock warrant would be a crime..... Logical May 2013 #76
It's a crime because you are knowingly shooting a peace officer. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #79
I agree, if you knew it should be a crime. But a person woken up might not think clearly. n-t Logical May 2013 #83
Someone not thinking clearly shouldn't be handling a firearm. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #85
Here is an interesting story.....Two actually...... Logical May 2013 #86
What you're suggesting is profiling. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #89
What stops any intruder from kicking in your front door and yelling "police"? Nothing. snooper2 May 2013 #102
In that we don't support the right to murder cops, sure. geek tragedy May 2013 #111
Mrs. Youngblood's case is entirely different from the one you gave as an example. pacalo May 2013 #53
I would not shoot at them, ZombieHorde May 2013 #57
Guilty. She identified them as police before shooting. HooptieWagon May 2013 #63
No, she didn't. The OP referred to them as police officers, She didn't. rug May 2013 #80
The OP quotes her testimony.... HooptieWagon May 2013 #84
That's true but it doesn't say when she knew they were police, before or after the fact. rug May 2013 #95
"Police or gang members" Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #81
That wasn't the subject of the poll. HooptieWagon May 2013 #88
The defendant would have to demonstrate a good reason for her fear. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #69
Are cops not required to demostrate good reason for their fear... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #77
I would not be afraid of uniformed officers entering my residents. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #82
Not Guilty BlueJazz May 2013 #78
Given the ineptitude of police Savannahmann May 2013 #87
The fucking cops gopiscrap May 2013 #92
The question lacks sufficient information to make a proper determination of guilt of innocence Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #94
Thanks for your input Nimajneb... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #97
Anyone who Needs an AR-15 assault rifle loses points up front. onehandle May 2013 #98
Not guilt in Florida! Sancho May 2013 #99
I might have voted Not Guilty, but for this: Buzz Clik May 2013 #103
Ah yes... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #108
Your martyrdom is noted and given all due consideration. LanternWaste May 2013 #113
Legally, the person is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of geek tragedy May 2013 #110
At present 24 of your... Mr_Jefferson_24 May 2013 #114
If police have a search warrant, you're legally required to let them in. geek tragedy May 2013 #116
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