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Aug 2013

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USA, USA, USA,. We're number 1!!! Rah rah rah,. .

bla bla bal,.

Fear is the path to the dark side.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
I sense much fear in you.

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For those who think Snowden and/or Greenwald have engaged in terrorism, [View all] morningfog Aug 2013 OP

Thank you!!!!!! newfie11 Aug 2013 #1

what the fuck indeed. cali Aug 2013 #2

Really scary that people can say that and still conceive of themselves as being liberal. nt Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #3

They are autoritarian fascist. 99Forever Aug 2013 #4

They are signing on with Dick Cheney's vision of the future n2doc Aug 2013 #5

Darth Vader America With Authoritarian Groupies cantbeserious Aug 2013 #6

I don't think they are terrorists. Skidmore Aug 2013 #7

all civil disobedience IS breaking the law that is the point of it. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #9

Bingo Little Star Aug 2013 #11

Okay, now what about those who broke the law that these Whistle Blowers broke the law to sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #22

Who is not criticizing Bush and Cheney here? Skidmore Aug 2013 #27

Agree except for the acting like a baby part RitchieRich Aug 2013 #8

I hate Libertarians more than Republicans. stonecutter357 Aug 2013 #10

"Sold" requires payment,. please link to the prof of payment, thanks. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #12

Okay, he "BARTERED" the information, he was questionably granted asylum, right? George II Aug 2013 #14

There is no evidence he gave anything to Russia, morningfog Aug 2013 #17

The US is responsible for him being in Russia. At least get the facts straight if you sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #23

Yeah, they tied him up, put him on a plane and shipped him off to Russia, with a side trip to HK! George II Aug 2013 #36

Still wrong on the facts. He was in transit to another country when the US Government sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #38

I'm wrong? He went to Russia on his own accord. Let me rephrase......... George II Aug 2013 #41

Yes, you are wrong. The US Govt forced Snowden to remain in Russia. How hard is that to sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #42

He can leave Russia tomorrow - it's in his hands..... George II Aug 2013 #43

Perhaps you should take a look at what Daniel Ellsberg says about Snowden being abroad... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #69

No, that's the one - the one who didn't flee the country and was willing to face prosecution. George II Aug 2013 #72

No he can't ...... oldhippie Aug 2013 #73

I'm sure that if he asks the US government for documents to return to the US they would be issued... George II Aug 2013 #75

Even if what you say is true, does that make him a terrorist? morningfog Aug 2013 #16

I don't think what they did was terrorism... one_voice Aug 2013 #13

I understand disagreeing with what Snowden did. morningfog Aug 2013 #18

All whistleblowers "steal" LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #21

There are two different ways to "blow the whistle" - the brave way and the cowardly way... George II Aug 2013 #44

That's nice LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #48

I never mentioned, nor am I in a position to define "terrorist" in this context..... George II Aug 2013 #58

Thank you for your valuable insight LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #59

Glad I could be of help. George II Aug 2013 #60

Every Whistle Blower 'steals'. But what do you think of the crimes Manning and Snowden sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #24

I can't help but laugh.. one_voice Aug 2013 #26

Steal should be in quotes. JoeyT Aug 2013 #28

It didn't belong to him. one_voice Aug 2013 #30

I don't need to change the definition of stealing. JoeyT Aug 2013 #31

What about the people that... one_voice Aug 2013 #34

So I misunderstood you and you consider Bush War Crimes to be way more important sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #40

Please go back and re-read my response. one_voice Aug 2013 #47

And if YOU witnessed War Crimes, bvar22 Aug 2013 #61

What war crimes did Snowden or Greenwald... one_voice Aug 2013 #64

Wow, your posts are very venomous, read like defenses of Bushco's worst actions followed by Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #70

No it wasn't. one_voice Aug 2013 #71

Franco-Americans. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #15

Well, they are succeeding. RC Aug 2013 #19

The Two Minutes Hate is far more attractive than critical thought. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #20

Ralph Nader welcomes the break! leftstreet Aug 2013 #29

! KG Aug 2013 #32

If only it lasted for just two minutes! winter is coming Aug 2013 #57

The OP is correct. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #62

I agree with the OP. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #63

If you look around at other Liberal/Progressive sites on the internet.. truth2power Aug 2013 #25

That's true, but the same comments can be found on Daily Kos eg, but they have sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #49

Third Way. Yeppers! n/t truth2power Aug 2013 #56

No one has said that treestar Aug 2013 #33

Funny you say that Hydra Aug 2013 #50

that's a stretch treestar Aug 2013 #76

I agree it's a stretch(on the part of the people doing it) Hydra Aug 2013 #77

The most troubling thing is this almost deification of the law. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #35

There is a word for what they are doing, and it isn't "terrorism." pnwmom Aug 2013 #37

I have no problem with that. morningfog Aug 2013 #46

They are not terrorists Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #39

I agree. Glad we found some common ground morningfog Aug 2013 #45

The people who think such things are neither Democrats (in any meaningful sense) villager Aug 2013 #51

Nice strawman outrage BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #52

There have been at least 3 threads morningfog Aug 2013 #55

So do you believe that Snowden is a terrorist? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #65

No more than Obama is head of the Stasi in his spare time BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #66

Cant give a straight answer? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #67

Obviously, you wouldn't recognize one if it sat on your head BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #68

If I didnt know better I would think you are trying to start a fight. Well, go fight with rhett o rick Aug 2013 #74

They're too busy polishing the Obama Admin apple. Bake Aug 2013 #53

K&R. It's only "terrorism" when it's agains the Obama police state. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #54