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Daniel Ellsberg: ‘Obama Would Have Indicted Me & Sought A Life Sentence For Me" [View all]

Daniel Ellsberg: ‘Obama Would Have Indicted Me’

But we come back to Obama. I think Obama’s interpretation is no, these are criminals… and he has decided to do what no previous president did ... which is to say prosecuted multiple whistle-blowers under the Espionage Act. He has brought seven indictments. ... Before him there were three presidents who each brought one … It’s an unprecedented campaign against whistle-blowing. And [Army Judge Denise Lind] is in a chain of command where she heard her commander in chief say [Manning] was guilty before he was even on trial. But I think he believes that, definitely. I have no question at all that Obama would not only have indicted me for the Pentagon Papers now ... even if it was before him, and I have no doubt that he would have sought a life sentence for me and believed I deserved it.

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Daniel Ellsberg: ‘Obama Would Have Indicted Me & Sought A Life Sentence For Me" [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

live, or life? ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #1

ChairmanAgnostic kpete Aug 2013 #2

always, KP, always. ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2013 #5

I do not recall Ellsberg as an individual who used his words to merely flame a situation. Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #3

+1 woo me with science Aug 2013 #6

Me too......nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #21

great man of history but maybe losing the plot now. Assange-praise was the first sign. nt uhnope Aug 2013 #54

a great man and even greater as he has recognised Assange's contribution Swagman Aug 2013 #55

That's like right wing not allowing the term "racist". "Egotist" in dictionary has Assange's photo. uhnope Aug 2013 #70

I do believe his perspective is worth considering, you're certainly free to disagree. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #61

This is how sick the war on journalists and whistleblowers has gotten. woo me with science Aug 2013 #4

by their claims shall ye know them: in 2006-10 They said the left was going to purge the Dems MisterP Aug 2013 #7

Slick and devious. woo me with science Aug 2013 #8

well, more like "blatantly telegraphing and so ham-fisted as to cause confusion" MisterP Aug 2013 #10

Lord Black renounced his Canadian citizenship arikara Aug 2013 #62

+100 nt LiberalEsto Aug 2013 #34

Ellsberg, you didn't steal 58,000 documents without reading them pnwmom Aug 2013 #9

Snowden revealed an UNCONSTITUTIONAL SURVEILLANCE STATE. woo me with science Aug 2013 #11

If that was what he cared about, why did he divert attention pnwmom Aug 2013 #12

No, you're the one trying to fabricate national security dangers. woo me with science Aug 2013 #18

You're not keeping up. The Washington Post says they were given pnwmom Aug 2013 #19

And he didn't pass on documents to risk anyone's lives. woo me with science Aug 2013 #25

Yes, he did pass on documents that could risk lives, as he has just acknowledged. pnwmom Aug 2013 #29

Love this post hueymahl Aug 2013 #58

''Snowden is nothing like you, Ellsberg.'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #13

Ellsberg is fixated on the whistle-blowing aspect that they shared. pnwmom Aug 2013 #14

What they share is a love for freedom. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #17

The very first thing Snowden released was marked Top Secret jmowreader Aug 2013 #22

Then Ellberg clearly has been misinformed. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #24

Or none of them are who we believe them to be jmowreader Aug 2013 #42

The question I ask myself is, "do I trust the Republican run spy agencies, run by Clapper, rhett o rick Aug 2013 #48

Ummm, so what? TiberiusB Aug 2013 #68

Did Mr Ellsberg told you he was misinformed but forgot to tell everyone else? idwiyo Aug 2013 #44

But how do you feel about the NSA spying on us? Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #65

You seem to have a deep interest in protecting UK spying in the ME. former9thward Aug 2013 #66

Apparently rationalization is the key to your happiness. Why dont you rhett o rick Aug 2013 #39

So does Amnesty International (see A.I. petition at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov) proverbialwisdom Aug 2013 #46

it's always fun to watch someone admonish one of the leading subject matter experts on this issue.. frylock Aug 2013 #53

K & R ~ nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #15

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2013 #16

as always kpete Aug 2013 #35

Did Ellsberg impersonate someone with higher security clearance to steal documents? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #20

No and he didnt date a pole dancer, what's your point? He supports Pfc Manning rhett o rick Aug 2013 #40

I'm Sure Dan Cares About Your Opinion HangOnKids Aug 2013 #41

no but the end result is the same...a revealtion that we are spied upon Swagman Aug 2013 #56

"Truthdig Radio airs Thursdays at 4 p.m. Pacific time on 90.7 KPFK in Los Angeles." bananas Aug 2013 #23

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #26

Again, just a lot of bitching here, damned if Obama does his job and damned if he does not, WTH. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #27

"People commits crimes and they need to face the time." Vanje Aug 2013 #30

Don't forget financial crimes that bring the entire world economy QC Aug 2013 #31

I did not excuse any of the crimes. When the Glass-Stegall Act like as repealed, it allowed Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #37

I guess the repeal of Glass-Stegall allowed war crimes as well. EOTE Aug 2013 #60

Are you familiar with the Glass-Stegall Act? The post to which I responded was a statement about Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #74

+1000000 How about implementing a surveillance state woo me with science Aug 2013 #32

What part of the Constitution are you referring? Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #38

I'm going to take a wild-assed guess here Vanje Aug 2013 #71

So if warrants are issued this would be in compliance with the Fourth Amendment. The warrants was Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #72

Warrants issued by a hand-picked secret court, based on secret laws Vanje Aug 2013 #79

Well, at least you are agreeing warrants are being issued. As far as which court they are being Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #80

For some reason, a large number of folks have swallowed the NSA's views and believe Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #64

some people would rather have kings fascisthunter Aug 2013 #50

Suuuuure... TiberiusB Aug 2013 #67

I love Daniel Ellsberg gopiscrap Aug 2013 #28

He was indicted and convicted Peregrine Aug 2013 #33

And he's rightly revered for it. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #52

Not a doubt. bvar22 Aug 2013 #36

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #43

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #45

k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #47

undoubtably true fascisthunter Aug 2013 #49

Yes he would. Autumn Aug 2013 #51

the quislings still cannot silence good and honest men even as they rabbit Swagman Aug 2013 #57

FACT. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #59

Ellsberg was tried on espionage, theft and other charges totalling 115 years FarCenter Aug 2013 #63

Uh oh. We already found out Ellsburg is a "dick head" from one proud poster DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #69

Any President's DOJ would have indicted him treestar Aug 2013 #73

Obama has prosecuted more people under the Espionage act than all previous presidents combined davidn3600 Aug 2013 #75

Prosecutions are undertaken where there is enough evidence for an indictment treestar Aug 2013 #76

There was nothing else Snowden could have done to reveal what was going on davidn3600 Aug 2013 #77

Mr Ellsberg is jabbering meaningless nonsense, comparing entirely different events, struggle4progress Aug 2013 #78