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2naSalit

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10. I agree that "malice"
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 11:47 PM
Oct 2013

is a fitting descriptive term in this instance. It is intentional and they have said so themselves on recorded media after all. They campaigned on this intention and basically because they are incensed that someone of color has been elected, twice, and actually brought to law policies that benefit the common-folk after being battered by corporate thugs and drug through two wars they objected to (well, one for certain).

I was reading a number of the comments within the previous OP from a couple years ago, very interesting indeed. It's so refreshing to see thoughtful discussion without all the character attacks we see of late.

One of the comments that really caught my attention ended with this:

In a larger sense, the GOP is committing treason and terrorism. But they are doing it at the behest of the corporations that have been committing it both here and around the world for years. And they are not going to allow their lackeys to be punished, unless they see some serious opposition, that will cost them.

As a verbal weapon, calling the GOP traitors can't be just about the budget and its partner the debt ceiling. You have to go after the entire cabal. Henry Wallace defined fascism and how it would come about in the USA. We are dealing with fascists, plain and simple. They don't take no for an answer. Here is what they did, how they did it, as predicted years ago:

http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm

This is what we are dealing with. And we don't know what to do. We are no longer permitted in political dialogue to even call them what they clearly are, as Wallace defined it. Our Founding Fathers and Abe Lincoln warned us.

As a rallying cry, call them traitors. But widen the definition of who they are. Legally, they aren't, because they are operating above our government, IMHO.


And was in response to a comment you had made about this OP's subject of focus. It is still true now and much more obvious. There has to be some method of recourse for citizens to take when a faction conspires to do harm to the government from within... but I suspect it's buried in one of Jefferson's Federalist Papers and I don't know which one at the moment. That might take a few days to ferret out along with cross referencing in the Constitution and subsequent ConLaw.

Apparently we will ultimately have to find a way to cost them in such a way that we can overcome and reverse the damage done by their faction, especially if we can't litigate their demise in power.

Something for me to do tomorrow since I can't be hired for work in the public sector until this storm blows over, there's certainly no work to be had in the tourist town near the NP I live next to while it's closed down. It will be like reviewing some of my college courses!
Thanks for the thoughtful analysis landolfi Oct 2013 #1
Thank you for your response Samantha Oct 2013 #2
Thank you for commenting 2naSalit Oct 2013 #5
Thank you for 2naSalit Oct 2013 #3
Totally fascinating Samantha Oct 2013 #7
I agree that "malice" 2naSalit Oct 2013 #10
And for actual evidence... 2naSalit Oct 2013 #4
You can't criminalize legislators' actions in proposing or voting on a bill pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #6
And here is the definition which I quoted in my original thread Samantha Oct 2013 #9
I think the comments were made by 2naSalit Oct 2013 #12
I thought the individual I heard speak was referencing the NSA Samantha Oct 2013 #18
The only thing I could find 2naSalit Oct 2013 #24
I liked the words "betraying America" because that is exactly what they are doing Samantha Oct 2013 #25
I have no doubt that you are sincere pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #15
What we are 2naSalit Oct 2013 #17
Exactly (n/t) Samantha Oct 2013 #23
Of course you grant this same right for those that disagree with Dem policies, right? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #40
Of course she would! Samantha Oct 2013 #54
"I believe she is currently tied up in the woods" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #55
So in your opinion we citizens should sit quietly in the bleachers and say nothing but hope Samantha Oct 2013 #20
Of course we don't sit quietly, we aggressively OPPOSE them pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #22
While it is arguable that what the Repubs are doing is "equivalent" to treason, Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #8
I am not suggesting they could be arrested for the way they vote on a bill Samantha Oct 2013 #11
and that is 2naSalit Oct 2013 #13
Well, wait a minute Samantha Oct 2013 #21
Even if it is "collusion" its simply not illegal. onenote Oct 2013 #49
This is a very thoughtful post Samantha Oct 2013 #53
Another factor in this 2naSalit Oct 2013 #14
I looked back and found the reference to that article Samantha Oct 2013 #16
An important point at another thread 2naSalit Oct 2013 #19
I see this as the beginning of the second chapter of the civil war Tumbulu Oct 2013 #26
I would appear taht they 2naSalit Oct 2013 #28
Like you, I fear that this is far more serious than Tumbulu Oct 2013 #30
It very well could be Samantha Oct 2013 #29
Thank you for starting it- it is full of thought provoking Tumbulu Oct 2013 #31
Thank you for posting on our thread Samantha Oct 2013 #34
Yeah, and when we were fighting WW2 the Japanese printed all sorts of unflattering Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #41
Excellent post! Tumbulu Oct 2013 #27
Excellent thread, will return to this and the link post tomorrow. freshwest Oct 2013 #32
K&R thanks Sam! Cha Oct 2013 #33
Doesn't the PATRIOT Act say something G_j Oct 2013 #35
Hmmm 2naSalit Oct 2013 #36
there is also the issue of national security, G_j Oct 2013 #37
That's also a good point 2naSalit Oct 2013 #38
thanks for your efforts! nt G_j Oct 2013 #39
Oops, responded above before I saw this Samantha Oct 2013 #44
I thought it was an excellent question and planned to see what I could find as well Samantha Oct 2013 #43
So in the PATRIOT Act, as per Wiki... 2naSalit Oct 2013 #42
Kudos to 2naSalit Oct 2013 #45
Yes, very good Tumbulu Oct 2013 #46
That requires 2naSalit Oct 2013 #48
Thanks to another diligent 2naSalit Oct 2013 #47
Are you being serious? DragonBorn Oct 2013 #50
Welcome to Ignore (n/t) Samantha Oct 2013 #51
Wow! Just Wow! oldhippie Oct 2013 #52
Another thread that has some good info 2naSalit Oct 2013 #56
Treason Party Graphic ... napkinz Oct 2013 #57
Thank you so much for posting this - it is so appropriate Samantha Oct 2013 #59
Well thought out post! K&R B Calm Oct 2013 #58
Thank you - I am really glad you liked it Samantha Oct 2013 #60
This borders on legal quackery. dairydog91 Oct 2013 #61
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