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In reply to the discussion: Economic Treason: The definition of "treason" and could Republicans be guilty of this crime (Part 2) [View all]2naSalit
(86,646 posts)10. I agree that "malice"
is a fitting descriptive term in this instance. It is intentional and they have said so themselves on recorded media after all. They campaigned on this intention and basically because they are incensed that someone of color has been elected, twice, and actually brought to law policies that benefit the common-folk after being battered by corporate thugs and drug through two wars they objected to (well, one for certain).
I was reading a number of the comments within the previous OP from a couple years ago, very interesting indeed. It's so refreshing to see thoughtful discussion without all the character attacks we see of late.
One of the comments that really caught my attention ended with this:
In a larger sense, the GOP is committing treason and terrorism. But they are doing it at the behest of the corporations that have been committing it both here and around the world for years. And they are not going to allow their lackeys to be punished, unless they see some serious opposition, that will cost them.
As a verbal weapon, calling the GOP traitors can't be just about the budget and its partner the debt ceiling. You have to go after the entire cabal. Henry Wallace defined fascism and how it would come about in the USA. We are dealing with fascists, plain and simple. They don't take no for an answer. Here is what they did, how they did it, as predicted years ago:
http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm
This is what we are dealing with. And we don't know what to do. We are no longer permitted in political dialogue to even call them what they clearly are, as Wallace defined it. Our Founding Fathers and Abe Lincoln warned us.
As a rallying cry, call them traitors. But widen the definition of who they are. Legally, they aren't, because they are operating above our government, IMHO.
As a verbal weapon, calling the GOP traitors can't be just about the budget and its partner the debt ceiling. You have to go after the entire cabal. Henry Wallace defined fascism and how it would come about in the USA. We are dealing with fascists, plain and simple. They don't take no for an answer. Here is what they did, how they did it, as predicted years ago:
http://newdeal.feri.org/wallace/haw23.htm
This is what we are dealing with. And we don't know what to do. We are no longer permitted in political dialogue to even call them what they clearly are, as Wallace defined it. Our Founding Fathers and Abe Lincoln warned us.
As a rallying cry, call them traitors. But widen the definition of who they are. Legally, they aren't, because they are operating above our government, IMHO.
And was in response to a comment you had made about this OP's subject of focus. It is still true now and much more obvious. There has to be some method of recourse for citizens to take when a faction conspires to do harm to the government from within... but I suspect it's buried in one of Jefferson's Federalist Papers and I don't know which one at the moment. That might take a few days to ferret out along with cross referencing in the Constitution and subsequent ConLaw.
Apparently we will ultimately have to find a way to cost them in such a way that we can overcome and reverse the damage done by their faction, especially if we can't litigate their demise in power.
Something for me to do tomorrow since I can't be hired for work in the public sector until this storm blows over, there's certainly no work to be had in the tourist town near the NP I live next to while it's closed down. It will be like reviewing some of my college courses!
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Economic Treason: The definition of "treason" and could Republicans be guilty of this crime (Part 2) [View all]
Samantha
Oct 2013
OP
You can't criminalize legislators' actions in proposing or voting on a bill
pinboy3niner
Oct 2013
#6
I liked the words "betraying America" because that is exactly what they are doing
Samantha
Oct 2013
#25
Of course you grant this same right for those that disagree with Dem policies, right?
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2013
#40
So in your opinion we citizens should sit quietly in the bleachers and say nothing but hope
Samantha
Oct 2013
#20
While it is arguable that what the Repubs are doing is "equivalent" to treason,
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#8
Yeah, and when we were fighting WW2 the Japanese printed all sorts of unflattering
Nuclear Unicorn
Oct 2013
#41
I thought it was an excellent question and planned to see what I could find as well
Samantha
Oct 2013
#43