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In reply to the discussion: Economic Treason: The definition of "treason" and could Republicans be guilty of this crime (Part 2) [View all]Samantha
(9,314 posts)I remember the shutdown in the 90s very distinctly. I would like to say, however, those times are not these days.
I am not disputing any legislator's right to vote or to coordinate a strategy.
I do think what is happening today is beyond political. Some of the participants, legislators along with those who donate to their campaigns, are so extremely to the right they fight to re-make this Country into something other than a democratic society. I am sure from the news that has been reported you can think of many examples of this.
What I am looking for is a legitimate (read legal) way to interfere. I do think it is possible to make a case that one cannot find "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" while facing each new day without food to eat or a home to call his or her own. It is also kind of difficult if one cannot access affordable health care. And I will not pretend to know how a parent must feel to learn his or her child cannot access cancer treatments due to the financial crisis created, yes deliberately created, by a partisan political player or players. I can't imagine it, I can't imagine it.
So if the only legitimate way to fight back is to find another venue in which rests a stop-gap to the extremists, we all need to be looking for it, I would think.
The closest I have come is to present the risk to our national security and a civil tort which is so weak, I did not post it. But take a look at the national security angle:
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/325829-spy-agencies-warn-shutdown-will-hurt-national-security
"According to the Defense Department's shutdown plan, intelligence and surveillance activities necessary for national security are excepted from the shutdown. But the document notes that "general political and economic intelligence unrelated to ongoing or contingency military operations" are not excepted.
Clapper and NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander will testify about their controversial surveillance programs at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday.
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) warned on Tuesday that the furloughs will "cripple" the CIA, the NSA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and other intelligence offices.
"Our shutdown is the biggest gift we could possibly give our enemies," she said in a speech on the Senate floor."
(emphasis added).
You are obviously very intelligent. Perhaps you could give some thought to legitimate ways citizens can fight back rather than sit on the sidelines and watch its economy crumble and its Constitutionally-guaranteed rights evaporate.
Thank you for posting on our thread.
Sam