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BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
35. No, that is mixing government run HC with SP
Sun Nov 10, 2013, 01:12 AM
Nov 2013

Government-run health care would have every hospital owned by or under contract to the government, and every doctor effectively an employee of the government.

Single payer has nothing to do with providing services. It is only about managing the payments for the services. There is a single entity that collects premiums (or taxes) from everybody and pays all the health care bills. In effect, it puts the entire population into one big risk pool, which reduces the risk to its lowest possible level. In a population the size of the US, there is effectively no risk management at all. That is to say, if 1000 people contract leukemia, that is a rounding error. It doesn't put the pool at risk. They simply have to set the tax rate at a level to cover the average cost of care. And we know from Medicare that the administrative overhead is under 3%, with no shareholders taking dividends and no executives taking exorbitant salaries. That is single payer. It is the most efficient way to handle payments (i.e. "insurance&quot

The "public option" is a way of making sure that the PRIVATE insurance system is competitive. A "public option" would say that if you looked on the exchange in your area, you might see some policies from Anthem, some from Kaiser, some from a no-name brand. But you would also see a policy managed by Medicare, which would establish a baseline price for actually providing this service. People would be free to choose to pay Anthem's CEO her $31,700,000 salary, or they could select the policy administered by Medicare. It is the buyer's OPTION.

http://articles.courant.com/2013-04-08/business/hc-anthem-wellpoint-former-ceo-pay-20130408_1_braly-wellpoint-executives-new-ceo

Google is your friend. If you have questions after reading this, we'd be happy to help. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #1
not nice. just saying. Wikipedia is the LAST source for quick, concise information. For the Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #26
No, asking a message board a question you can google yourself isn't nice. mattclearing Nov 2013 #32
Agree. But DU is filled with people who love to share their knowledge. nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #38
We all support the government thru our taxes then government pays for health care brush Nov 2013 #34
It refers to one entity acting as administrator, or “payer.” In the case of health care, Agnosticsherbet Nov 2013 #2
Medicare. SharonAnn Nov 2013 #3
This is what I was going to say. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #4
Yep, it works extremely well! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2013 #7
I am a senior on Medicare.... chillfactor Nov 2013 #8
You must be in a Medicare Advantage Plan, which is probably what I wil do. Hoyt Nov 2013 #14
That is the plan my dad has ChazII Nov 2013 #22
I get it. Apparently a lot here don't. Hoyt Nov 2013 #24
Bless yr. heart. bravenak Nov 2013 #5
Medicare isn't "single payer"...the patient has significant responsibility.. pipoman Nov 2013 #17
Ha ha, yes that's very true. Loudly Nov 2013 #19
No ins company in the way. bravenak Nov 2013 #23
Unless one doesn't have the means to self insure pipoman Nov 2013 #25
Medicare Part B pays only 80% of what it covers. CTyankee Nov 2013 #40
No insurance companies Freddie Nov 2013 #6
exactly as it should be! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #20
Yes indeed. For-profit healthcare is a sick, sick system! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #21
yes it is and so is for profit gopiscrap Nov 2013 #29
Agree. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #33
No, that is mixing government run HC with SP BlueStreak Nov 2013 #35
Cool Galileo126 Nov 2013 #9
Actually you mean "public option" or "single payer" - they are 2 different things. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #11
Today, 30% of Medicare beneficiaries choose Medicare Advatage Plans, owned by private Hoyt Nov 2013 #15
And I see nothing at all wrong with single payer for BASIC HC BlueStreak Nov 2013 #36
There is profit involved.. pipoman Nov 2013 #16
Single payer means the government is the sole insurance company, Warpy Nov 2013 #12
rec panader0 Nov 2013 #13
Personally I'd like a socialized medicine option but I'm not holding my breath. Chan790 Nov 2013 #18
I think a public option (whatever you call it) should be next step. Hoyt Nov 2013 #27
Britain got NHS the hard way--by having its infrastructure trashed in WW II eridani Nov 2013 #39
Medicare - for - All aikanae Nov 2013 #28
In Canada, a single crown corporation in each province pays for all necessary medical procedures NoOneMan Nov 2013 #30
The options are as varied as every other "civilized" country. They have all worked it out. Other libdem4life Nov 2013 #31
I'd be happy with a system of most western european countries where a CTyankee Nov 2013 #41
I wish that phrase wasn't used TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #37
It's basically health care without the insurance companies raking in 20% profit! B Calm Nov 2013 #42
Kestrel's link is quite accurate re single payer ConcernedCanuk Nov 2013 #43
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