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Rain Mcloud

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245. I consider President Bernie Sanders to be an awesome thing

Sat Nov 16, 2013, 03:32 PM

Nov 2013

The tens of billions of dollars spent by the right wing lunatics to defeat him,returned to the economy,the newest deal ever!

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BREAKING : Bernie Sanders [View all] boomerbust Nov 2013 OP

Source? Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #1

The horse's mouth. Today. On The Thom Hartmann Show. WowSeriously Nov 2013 #87

I was watching Brunch with Bernie when he said it. bvar22 Nov 2013 #115

Well, we can always dream! WowSeriously Nov 2013 #170

I heard him also! fredamae Nov 2013 #251

It would be awesome if he ran as a Democrat WowSeriously Nov 2013 #255

Yes, it would! fredamae Nov 2013 #257

Bernie Sanders on the Thom Hartman Show boomerbust Nov 2013 #2

He should - and then throw his support to the Dem cilla4progress Nov 2013 #3

Can you honestly see Hillary moving left of anything? Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #27

Nope. Not a chance. Whisp Nov 2013 #45

Absolutely. She's not an ideologue or a populist or she wouldn't be where she is. She is pragmatic libdem4life Nov 2013 #72

Well, I'm glad you like her. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #75

I'm on record as not being a fan. But that doesn't mean I'm blind to her position or the abject libdem4life Nov 2013 #84

And I think Hillary's support is a mile wide and an inch deep. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #85

Speaking of negatives, bvar22 Nov 2013 #119

Thank you for sharing blue14u Nov 2013 #174

+1000 MissDeeds Nov 2013 #212

Yes, and hopefully blue14u Nov 2013 #264

I feel t he same way. People have had enough of having candidates appointed, over three years sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #249

Yes Sabrina 1.. we do blue14u Nov 2013 #263

Love the video, bvar, thanks! LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #205

Yep, your last paragraph, especially the first sentence is....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #135

You make good points. But I see that Hillary's poll numbers are consistent and she does fall under libdem4life Nov 2013 #155

Which is all a very long-winded way of saying Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #179

Sadly, and I truly mean that and it could change, but it seems logical. The candidate needs to raise libdem4life Nov 2013 #183

I'm sure the republicans will appreciate that. NT juajen Nov 2013 #236

+1 KoKo Nov 2013 #223

I really like how you put that. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #141

Bernie could do what blue14u Nov 2013 #173

She lost the election, did you forget? Progressives went for the person who had not voted sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #177

She lost to Obama, yes. I wasn't as into then as I am now, but neither one of them seemed libdem4life Nov 2013 #178

Hillary makes four right turns and gets back right where she started from before turning left once. Ikonoklast Nov 2013 #211

Sure- like Obama. And then promptly moving to the right of Reagan kenny blankenship Nov 2013 #222

If we want better policy, the Dem should throw his/her support to Bernie. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #28

This! ^^^ enlightenment Nov 2013 #34

Hear, Hear! [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2013 #35

well said! liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #38

+1 daleanime Nov 2013 #44

Or draft him into the Democratic race... zeemike Nov 2013 #89

Yep. 99Forever Nov 2013 #102

+1 idwiyo Nov 2013 #103

I'll be interested to find out what the DU admins think about this... L0oniX Nov 2013 #116

And then DU will move even farther to the Right in the process. RC Nov 2013 #138

This Board does not interfere with opinions expressed unless the juajen Nov 2013 #237

It is not the owners, it is some of their followers that are the problem here. RC Nov 2013 #254

Why then does Bernie help elect the Right of Center Democrats? brooklynite Nov 2013 #258

Could it be they are reasonably honest and that they have RC Nov 2013 #271

I'll let you put that question to the DU community, and see what kind of reply you get. brooklynite Nov 2013 #272

I already know what kind of replies I would get from some. RC Nov 2013 #273

One's politics can be Democratic in spirit without being a Democrat. I like to think that Sanders is ancianita Nov 2013 #171

Yes. Yes. Yes! 840high Nov 2013 #148

Spot on MissDeeds Nov 2013 #213

Screw that, he should run as Dem if that is the only way for him to get a chance to win. idwiyo Nov 2013 #33

Or he could run as a Democrat. That would make more sense than trying a third party candidacy. n/t totodeinhere Nov 2013 #167

"Move the Dem candidate left" Scootaloo Nov 2013 #189

As for me, I just want one who can win. That's the name of the game. juajen Nov 2013 #240

I've been around long enough to know that a D next to the name is no assurance of quality Scootaloo Nov 2013 #247

NO. dotymed Nov 2013 #224

Good! Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #4

he wouldn't be allowed/invited to any of the debates NightWatcher Nov 2013 #6

Yep. That's the way a corrupt two party system works. It would take a grass roots effort, but hey liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #9

What qualifies a candidate to be "invited" to debates? Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #11

Bernie is not a democrat. cali Nov 2013 #13

Doesn't he caucus with the Dems? Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #47

Has nothing to do with "they". He declares himself a Democrat or he doesn't stevenleser Nov 2013 #56

General election debates dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #109

I used the word "they" to reference someone Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #217

Dennis Kucinich participated in EVERY debate frazzled Nov 2013 #18

Wasn't he sort of frozen out of the discussion Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #37

I clearly remember dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #110

I will never forgive Potato Head for that assassination. bvar22 Nov 2013 #134

Yes, how about the take-out of Jerry Brown too? dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #147

Yes, he is; and, I would love to see Gavin Newsome nationally! juajen Nov 2013 #239

Meh on Newsome dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #248

This San Franciscan - Hell Hath No Fury Nov 2013 #256

+1 Enthusiast Nov 2013 #199

Yes. Made to look like a crackpot. Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #215

Yep, anything that might threaten the bottom line dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #250

He did not participate in every debate, especially the final Cleita Nov 2013 #81

I love Amy Goodman. She is fantastic. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #83

Here's the criteria for the 2012 debates 2naSalit Nov 2013 #66

Dennis was in some debates, but eventually, the field is narrowed. juajen Nov 2013 #238

That's not corruption ... frazzled Nov 2013 #15

then why don't the Independents get a primary debate? Because the two parties have all the power liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #20

+1000000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #26

shamelessly rigged is right... druidity33 Nov 2013 #79

I hear you. If it turns out the Sen Warren is not corruptible, she will probably get drunk, take rhett o rick Nov 2013 #90

I don't see any advantage to registering I dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #114

They do get a primary debate. jeff47 Nov 2013 #52

There is an Independent Party (far right whacks). enlightenment Nov 2013 #53

yeah, I can see that. We actually have a lot of parties. None of which get any attention because liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #58

Well, yes. enlightenment Nov 2013 #80

Debate whom? He has decided to not be part of a party stevenleser Nov 2013 #54

Thanks for the dis-information, Steven. truedelphi Nov 2013 #77

It's not about "disenfranchising". Do Republicans get to participate in Democratic primary debates? NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #126

Gee, and here I was thinking it was all about the will of the people. zeemike Nov 2013 #96

We haven't had a legitimate Presidential Debate .... bvar22 Nov 2013 #123

That statement gives me increasing respect for TWV. zeemike Nov 2013 #139

A quote JFk made with remarks as to how in America, people deserve to speak and hear the truth truedelphi Nov 2013 #69

They could have a primary debate. They have conventions. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #73

"the way our system is set up." Exactly. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #76

I disagree. Gore1FL Nov 2013 #149

Independents aren't free to debate? You talk as if the American people aren't smart enough to know Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #88

The times they are a changing.. blue14u Nov 2013 #180

The times haven't changed that much. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #274

I knew about this rule on DU. blue14u Nov 2013 #277

Nobody's told who to vote for at DU, but you are forbidden to push... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #278

My argument is blue14u Nov 2013 #279

Harass? Need I remind you who responded to whom initially? Refresher: Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #280

Tarhell_Dem... again blue14u Nov 2013 #281

"Move On"? Well, I guess that's what you should've done to begin with. Right? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #282

If someone sponsored the debates they could have them frazzled Nov 2013 #172

Not necessarily. If he ran as a third party candidate the threshold would be a totodeinhere Nov 2013 #168

That's nice to drive the debate. But he won't get more than 15% in any primary. scheming daemons Nov 2013 #5

I can't imagine that he would do it for any other reason but to drive the debate. cali Nov 2013 #7

Yep Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #19

but he has a blizzard's worth when it comes to impacting the race cali Nov 2013 #23

Dennis is all about Dennis Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #25

I think he should register as a Democrat and participate in all the primary debates. rhett o rick Nov 2013 #244

You seem so certain...As blue14u Nov 2013 #181

there will be probably a half dozen candidates scheming daemons Nov 2013 #185

Are you saying he blue14u Nov 2013 #187

i am saying the electorate, as constituted scheming daemons Nov 2013 #188

AHHH, so its true blue14u Nov 2013 #191

Yes, there will be blue14u Nov 2013 #262

what. the. fuck. multiplied. cali Nov 2013 #246

Excuse me? I checked and rechecked...I see YOU are the one confused.. blue14u Nov 2013 #259

Good. Great! We need a candidate we can vote for rather than another "not as bad" hack. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #8

I have been saying for over a year, no more lesser of two evils, go Bernie! A Simple Game Nov 2013 #131

I have been saying for over a year, no more lesser of two evils, go Bernie! A Simple Game Nov 2013 #136

+1000 valerief Nov 2013 #210

He'll get mine as well. LWolf Nov 2013 #220

Excellent. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #10

Ha! I like that My pragmatism is wearing thin too! n/t Greybnk48 Nov 2013 #14

And my thinmatism is wearing prag! Aldo Leopold Nov 2013 #153

If the media takes a hack like Arianna Huffington seriously, closeupready Nov 2013 #12

He would get my vote. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #16

Mine too. Dream ticket for me would be Sanders/Warren (in either order). LoisB Nov 2013 #32

Hear Hear blue14u Nov 2013 #182

And mine :) mother earth Nov 2013 #253

I'd follow Bernie into hell LittleBlue Nov 2013 #17

Ditto. OutNow Nov 2013 #192

How many times can I rec this? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #21

I hope he does! And that he can Debate the Candidates! KoKo Nov 2013 #22

not in the democratic debates. he's not a dem cali Nov 2013 #24

Aware of that...but, maybe we can change the system...and he will KoKo Nov 2013 #49

The time is now!!! blue14u Nov 2013 #186

There's a precedent here RufusTFirefly Nov 2013 #120

I don't know how we "outflank them" but maybe Sinclair's Time Has Come! KoKo Nov 2013 #154

BTW, Cali! Remember Joe Lieberman left Dem Party and Ran Indy... KoKo Nov 2013 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author el_bryanto Nov 2013 #29

Oh, look, Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #43

I'm not making fun of old people el_bryanto Nov 2013 #59

Nice attempt at a save. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #64

I deleted it - I guess it was funnier in my head. nt el_bryanto Nov 2013 #71

It's gonna get ugly very fast if Bernie Sanders does run. woo me with science Nov 2013 #92

Anyone, ANYONE challenging Hillary Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #99

Could not agree with you more. nt woo me with science Nov 2013 #137

Screw the conservative establishment Dems AND the Elephant they rode in on. NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #204

+1 mmonk Nov 2013 #208

lol! 'nasty swipes'... Whisp Nov 2013 #133

They have no problem with age or choice, as long as it's the one they personally approve of! idwiyo Nov 2013 #106

??? Chan790 Nov 2013 #46

It's a slam against the fact Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #57

No it isn't - but don't let that stop you from alerting it. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #61

Not my style. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #67

k&r VERY enthusiastic K&R! idwiyo Nov 2013 #30

Wow! Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #31

Not if he runs as Dem, and he should, as it's the only way to beat the friggin system. idwiyo Nov 2013 #36

I can't imagine him switching political parties now. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #39

Doesn't have to. Chan790 Nov 2013 #55

Well, this is interesting. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #62

Yes, he does. Next week, when I am not on an iPad, I'll link to it. stevenleser Nov 2013 #63

Okay. Interesting. I always assumed it was everywhere. Chan790 Nov 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Nov 2013 #86

I hope he does switch. Really hope so. idwiyo Nov 2013 #60

According to post #55 Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #70

Why by default? blue14u Nov 2013 #190

And I see no reason why he can't. zeemike Nov 2013 #98

And in this case it will be a damn good Dem! idwiyo Nov 2013 #100

wow. nice. Whisp Nov 2013 #40

I love Bernie. If he becomes another Ralph Nader, I won't. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #41

I hope he runs as an independent, with Nader as his VP. Dr. Strange Nov 2013 #42

I would crawl through broken glass to see Bernie Sanders elected. woo me with science Nov 2013 #48

and one may probably be calling him out as a caver Whisp Nov 2013 #51

Oh look. Right on cue. woo me with science Nov 2013 #94

I'm okay with Bernie. Whisp Nov 2013 #107

I sincerely doubt that people who have principles would make excuses if Sanders wins idwiyo Nov 2013 #112

Very well said. woo me with science Nov 2013 #143

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #145

"Okay with Bernie". What does that even mean? cali Nov 2013 #193

It means this: Whisp Nov 2013 #218

+1,000 dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #124

Bernie! sarcasmo Nov 2013 #50

I guess it's official and we can talk about 2016 w/o being told to stfu. n/t Whisp Nov 2013 #65

An eternal optimist, you are. Laelth Nov 2013 #93

Bernie Yes! But it's too bad the Democratic Party has become so Corporate Lame that... Armstead Nov 2013 #74

Well said. Laelth Nov 2013 #95

If people vote for a corporate Dem they will get what they deserve! L0oniX Nov 2013 #122

Unfortunately Corporate Dems talk a good talk but.... Armstead Nov 2013 #157

...and I even went to an Obama campaign rally. L0oniX Nov 2013 #160

^this Marrah_G Nov 2013 #164

On Democratic ticket? Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #78

If LWolf Nov 2013 #221

Agreed Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #225

Please make it so. ananda Nov 2013 #82

Does anyone have a source for this? nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #91

If he does, I hope he chooses Elizabeth Warren as his running mate MynameisBlarney Nov 2013 #97

Given the insane House and just marginally better HockeyMom Nov 2013 #101

He's got my vote over ANY other. 99Forever Nov 2013 #104

Bernie is a great, old-time Liberal. One of a very few who mostly don't get much press due to the libdem4life Nov 2013 #105

Really? Completely disagree with your conclusions. - eom dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #128

OK. I'm sure a lot here do. It's all pretty much opinion until it's over anyway. Then, it's a new libdem4life Nov 2013 #156

Right on dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #162

He would have my full support and as many hours of volunteer work as I can manage. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #108

Love it! Go Bernie InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #111

Bernie! AzDar Nov 2013 #113

Well Robbins Nov 2013 #117

Bernie Sanders has my vote! CountAllVotes Nov 2013 #118

I will throw all my efforts, money his way, Sanders and Warren, what a ticket. Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #121

Sanders and Warren: Wall St.'s worst nightmare!! Initech Nov 2013 #125

That's my dream ticket! NC_Nurse Nov 2013 #130

Great news! raindaddy Nov 2013 #127

K&R mc51tc Nov 2013 #129

Sweet! I really respect that guy. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #132

Please Sir Half-Century Man Nov 2013 #140

Meh. Bernie's "impact" would be similar to this guy..... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #142

I see you're in the Hillary "TPP" Clinton crowd. Earth_First Nov 2013 #161

I support Democrats, and unless the rules have changed, so does DU. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #276

Yep, another fantasy candidate. Beacool Nov 2013 #184

Hillary Clinton provided funding to Bernie Sanders for his Senate run. MADem Nov 2013 #200

I like Sanders, but to think that he could win in a general election Beacool Nov 2013 #226

I concur. MADem Nov 2013 #230

I think that too many people here have no clue about Hillary. Beacool Nov 2013 #231

She will make a superb President--probably the best prepared one we've MADem Nov 2013 #234

We'll see. Beacool Nov 2013 #260

Bernie is nothing like Nader. And he has NO history of "divide and conquer" cali Nov 2013 #194

The asshole who wanted to primary the current president? Oh yeah... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #275

I doubt he expects to win, but he intends to push the national tblue37 Nov 2013 #144

Woo-hoo! K & R. Contact him! dreamnightwind Nov 2013 #146

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #150

Interesting! Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2013 #151

Would he run under the Socialist ticket? B Calm Nov 2013 #152

Joe Lieberman ran as an Independent when challenged by Dem Left... KoKo Nov 2013 #159

Bernie would not even be allowed in the debates. Make more sense B Calm Nov 2013 #198

Run Bernie Run RoccoR5955 Nov 2013 #163

He'd have my vote! Oakenshield Nov 2013 #165

This sounds great, but... DissidentVoice Nov 2013 #166

If he runs as a D I'd be interested on knowing more and would consider voting for him davidpdx Nov 2013 #169

Seriously? Beacool Nov 2013 #175

It's not about winning for Bernie. If he runs it's to influence the debate cali Nov 2013 #195

Excellent Point Mostly Orbiting Nov 2013 #197

Yes, but Hillary has a good chance of winning the general election. Beacool Nov 2013 #227

again, this is about influencing the debate and pointing out that Hillary is a corporate cali Nov 2013 #229

Bernie Sanders' message of economic fairness resonates with almost everyone across the political Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #196

I think that the Left needs to get a reality check when it comes to 2016. Beacool Nov 2013 #228

The simple reality is - most people do agree with most of what Sen Bernie Sanders has to say Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #232

He is not a Democrat. Beacool Nov 2013 #233

not at this time - but he can change that anytime he wants. The context of any of his conversations Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #235

Maybe so, but he'll be just as electable in a general election as Cruz. Beacool Nov 2013 #261

I don't know where you get that idea. Across the political spectrum people listen to Bernie Sanders Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #265

I'm tired, I'm going to bed. Beacool Nov 2013 #266

I think you need to get away from the world of political true believers and listen to ordinary Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #268

I listen to people and I live in a Democratic part of the country. Beacool Nov 2013 #269

I would not support a third party effort as tempting as it may be. Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #270

I'm shocked that someone with a Hilary Clinton avatar would say something like this. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #242

I'm shocked that anyone would think that Sanders would have a snowball chance in hell Beacool Nov 2013 #267

Bernie would make a great president. avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #176

Now there's a salution to the political society . orpupilofnature57 Nov 2013 #201

Sorry to say, but ann--- Nov 2013 #202

Then we need a good draft movement to begin. mmonk Nov 2013 #203

Bernie will be 75 in Sept 2016. If he runs, it will be a gesture Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #206

What ticket is he going to run on, anyone know? boston bean Nov 2013 #207

PLEASE NorthCarolina Nov 2013 #209

+ 1 pretty please MissDeeds Nov 2013 #216

Front page article in the Burlington Free Press (Burlington, VT) - on Sanders karynnj Nov 2013 #214

Good News Mosaic Nov 2013 #219

I love Bernie and appreciate this thread but is there a source for the OP? nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #241

He would be a candidate I would support. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #243

I consider President Bernie Sanders to be an awesome thing Rain Mcloud Nov 2013 #245

If he runs, I'm voting for him. lark Nov 2013 #252