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105. A personal attack, how original.

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Dylan Farrow Responds to Woody Allen: 'Distortions and Outright Lies' [View all] seabeyond Feb 2014 OP

"i am not participating in this thread.", but I'm compelled to post it anyway. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #1

why is this trash? Texasgal Feb 2014 #3

My opinion only PDittie Feb 2014 #5

How does it not illuminate social concern? Texasgal Feb 2014 #7

It allows an exploration of rape culture BainsBane Feb 2014 #9

I'm of the opinion I can think of more than one thing at a time and given the amount of roguevalley Feb 2014 #25

I see. The only thing that matters is whether IYO a discussion "helps Democrats". Cool. nt delrem Feb 2014 #32

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #33

There are serious issues here of whether Allen's power, money, and influence pnwmom Feb 2014 #138

For the same reason all of these posts are, this is entirely irrelevant. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #8

What payday? BainsBane Feb 2014 #10

I'm sorry you feel that way. Texasgal Feb 2014 #11

She isn't. BainsBane Feb 2014 #13

No, you didn't miss anything... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #22

Dylan didn't, Mia did Major Nikon Feb 2014 #70

You linked to Alan Derschowitz denying under oath that such an offer was made. pnwmom Feb 2014 #140

I read the link. It is a weasely non-denial to be honest. Bonobo Feb 2014 #143

Dershowitz's version is brilliantly pathetic Major Nikon Feb 2014 #165

just a smoking gun reddread Feb 2014 #160

+ 1 red dog 1 Feb 2014 #190

You should read it again Major Nikon Feb 2014 #161

can I rec this post? reddread Feb 2014 #162

The only thing you can rec is the thread Major Nikon Feb 2014 #163

So what is to be made of the fact that Mia offered her silence for 7 million dollars? Bonobo Feb 2014 #195

At least 3 different people said she was physically and emotionally abusive towards her kids Major Nikon Feb 2014 #203

Furthermore, Soon-Yi knows the deal. Bonobo Feb 2014 #206

It's an appeal to emotion fallacy made by those who have a hard time making an argument without them Major Nikon Feb 2014 #211

You obviously can't be bothered to read the court record BainsBane Feb 2014 #220

Much more than a family fight ... MindMover Feb 2014 #18

just curious who is looking for a payday Skittles Feb 2014 #23

go to huffingtonpost and read the court ruling on this. Then apologize. roguevalley Feb 2014 #26

So, I suppose, you consider other rehashings of incidents from over two decades ago delrem Feb 2014 #29

That's just sad. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #31

I don't find it sad. I find it repugnant. nt delrem Feb 2014 #35

repugnant and creepy. Whisp Feb 2014 #81

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" reusrename Feb 2014 #68

Do you feel the same way when a man comes forward twenty years later pnwmom Feb 2014 #139

Excellent question! nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #207

I'll wait for Kathy Griffin's opinion on this itsrobert Feb 2014 #2

No, let's talk Justin! Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #85

I'm sure as hell interested.. Cha Feb 2014 #4

I believe Dylan and I have been boycotting Woody Allen productions since the Soon-Yi outrage.... kickysnana Feb 2014 #6

The whole Soon-Yi thing... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #24

What? CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #46

Marrying one of your children's siblings is very creepy (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #56

"Creepy" is too shorthand Scootaloo Feb 2014 #66

Thanks Scoot... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #67

Yep, it goes waaay beyond just being creepy. It's pathological. reusrename Feb 2014 #69

That works both ways Major Nikon Feb 2014 #71

Just curious, but did you think about what you just posted? reusrename Feb 2014 #73

I don't think you know about Mia's associations or you didn't put much thought into your post Major Nikon Feb 2014 #74

What is it supposed to tell me, exactly? reusrename Feb 2014 #75

You're the one asking me if I thought about what I posted Major Nikon Feb 2014 #77

What does it tell you? BainsBane Feb 2014 #78

I'm trying to figure out what you just said or meant. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #212

If that's true... Major Nikon Feb 2014 #214

What? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #216

I think Mia was to blame, too, pnwmom Feb 2014 #221

Allen loves therapy Major Nikon Feb 2014 #222

Allen didn't initiate that therapy. A therapist in the house to see another child pnwmom Feb 2014 #224

I wouldn't let any of my grandchildren awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #218

And he's been in therapy all his life, and he half admitted a penchant for 12 year olds Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #210

Yes indeed. nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #209

Same here. The whole thing about him taking nude pics of a girl he was playing parent to... Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #208

Thanks seabeyond - I've read all your posts about this & find them therapeutic. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2014 #12

jumping and hurtlin' over all the other posters and tacklin' you in seabeyond Feb 2014 #16

....tears - that's all - tears.... Dylan is very brave & I'm glad she has her family's support nt AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2014 #20

. seabeyond Feb 2014 #21

I was shocked to find that he had been allowed to adopt two more daughters pnwmom Feb 2014 #141

Yes, I have seen and read some of those posts. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #14

I believe Dylan and I believe Allen is a sick fuck that Whisp Feb 2014 #15

Why is there a need to believe anyone? Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #27

Really? Texasgal Feb 2014 #28

No, that I can understand. Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #38

I find trying to understand Texasgal Feb 2014 #40

One can choose to resist rape culture BainsBane Feb 2014 #41

I support all that Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #48

It would be nice if people could come forward without negative repercussion BainsBane Feb 2014 #52

I think it's because money talks. People are impressed by power, fame and money. Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #213

I think we pick sides on things like this LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #44

+1 very well stated. n/t jaysunb Feb 2014 #126

You're just trying to create a distraction pintobean Feb 2014 #127

I value your 2 cents more than pretty much any other post I've seen on this topic. 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #133

If someone ever accuses you of molestation, pray others don't think like you Democat Feb 2014 #99

Dylan's story is supported by others. Whisp Feb 2014 #113

I've got the solution to this whole mess snooper2 Feb 2014 #17

Woody already took a polygraph. HERVEPA Feb 2014 #36

You didn't bother reading the OP did you? BainsBane Feb 2014 #37

Did she... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #47

Who is her mother accused of sexually molesting? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #65

her brother, on the other hand, was sentenced for it reddread Feb 2014 #128

I thought he took only one arranged by his own lawyer, and refused the one the cops offered? nt Sarah Ibarruri Feb 2014 #215

The victim must be heard .. if we do not listen, we are a lost civilization ... MindMover Feb 2014 #19

Thanks for posting this. TDale313 Feb 2014 #30

Aw, jeez... madinmaryland Feb 2014 #34

This is the statement of a child abuse victim BainsBane Feb 2014 #39

Oh-kay. nt madinmaryland Feb 2014 #45

WTF is that supposed to mean? BainsBane Feb 2014 #49

One person said there was no evidence of manipulation vs a team that investigated for months Bonobo Feb 2014 #50

The state commissioned the investigation and then discredited it when they didn't like the results. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #91

WTF is that supposed to mean?? madinmaryland Feb 2014 #58

Yes, it has been proven that Woody Allen's allegations against Mia are bogus BainsBane Feb 2014 #64

Silencing voices CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #54

You aren't considering evidence BainsBane Feb 2014 #57

The court did conclude Mia was not a perfect mother BainsBane Feb 2014 #60

These kids that have been coached, they don't grow up remembering stuff that didn't happen. reusrename Feb 2014 #72

Seriously liberalmuse Feb 2014 #42

Amen. complain jane Feb 2014 #43

Dylan was violated & is speaking about it, how does this not help others in similar situations? AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2014 #53

It's a trigger. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #62

You'd be okay with it if it was a trigger warning on the articles, so you could avoid them? cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #76

No, not at all. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #129

I believe that survivors deal with trauma in different ways cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #131

Allen is the only one I see being "highly manipulative" & he has been for a long time. AnotherMother4Peace Feb 2014 #102

I see this thread has made some people very uncomfortable. That is a good thing. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #51

Some of us mzteris Feb 2014 #55

yes, the turmoil, the pain. I see it, too -- yanno what they say: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #59

Sometimes it hurts too much mzteris Feb 2014 #61

True. I believe I am watching that happen to someone on this site. They are chained Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #63

This is old news. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #79

"Dylan is the absuer now" BainsBane Feb 2014 #80

And yet, nothing you said addressed the point I made. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #82

Which points of victim blaming did I not address? BainsBane Feb 2014 #84

If the court thought he was so guilty, the court should've charged him. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #88

Uninformed, completely and your claims are without merit. Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #83

No. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #86

Cut the bullshit, I am not the judge, I read what the judge decided. I read the record. Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #87

Cut it yourself, and I don't care what you do. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #89

Typical dump and run. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #90

shameful calling an abused child, the abuser. she has the right to speak the rest of her life. every seabeyond Feb 2014 #92

That is so logic-challenged. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #93

seeing how i received a pm from another duer saying how hurtful your post was, seabeyond Feb 2014 #94

Maybe that poster should've pm'd me, and not you. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #98

the issue is not about a protected forum. it is about considering others seabeyond Feb 2014 #101

If you thought the topic was so painful, that considering others is a priority Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #109

how many people addressed you about exactly the same thing? about me? hmmmm seabeyond Feb 2014 #110

What is that supposed to mean? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #111

ahhhhh, you went to the little groups popular little diss, when no other "comeback" is available. seabeyond Feb 2014 #112

No, there is YOU and BainsBane who claim such a thing. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #114

jefferson, la taz and starry do not count? ha ha seabeyond Feb 2014 #115

Covered that, guess you didn't read the post. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #118

uh hu seabeyond Feb 2014 #119

it is offensive to call a woman, a woman. OMG....., lmao. par with calling a victim the abuser? seabeyond Feb 2014 #116

Oh, I forgot, you're such an expert on English usage. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #117

another uh hu, and a resorting to the same old diss. ba hahaha. sad seabeyond Feb 2014 #120

i guess if you were a man, then being called woman would be offensive. seabeyond Feb 2014 #121

Interesitng isn't it BainsBane Feb 2014 #124

ya know. what a fuckin' hoot. ya. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #125

Far from it BainsBane Feb 2014 #95

as always, you say it much better than i. more thorough. me? call it out and walk away. thanks. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #97

Oh baloney, see post #98. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #100

You assume Woody Allen is guilty rather than innocent Democat Feb 2014 #103

i do not need to pray i will not be accused. i do not behave grossly inappropriately with children, seabeyond Feb 2014 #106

It's unreal. JTFrog Feb 2014 #130

It is the single worst thing I have ever read about this case BainsBane Feb 2014 #132

if goldmans father kept talking about his sons murder by OJ, would he be as bad as the murder? seabeyond Feb 2014 #134

A particularly egregious example of rape culture BainsBane Feb 2014 #135

Maybe the worst part is it makes sexual abuse seem like a trivial thing, no big deal. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #136

And the Academy Award for most twisted abuse defender goes to... Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #96

A personal attack, how original. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #105

The victim is now the perpetrator??? Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #104

You don't think one person could possibly ever be in both roles? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #107

This is me Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #108

There's the First Amendment treestar Feb 2014 #122

At least six people have said as much BainsBane Feb 2014 #123

I didn't see where anyone claimed that pintobean Feb 2014 #145

Actually she said BainsBane Feb 2014 #167

I can read. I assume you can, as well. pintobean Feb 2014 #171

Bullshit BainsBane Feb 2014 #199

Well, I, for one, am gonna' stick up for you, WFE BellaKos Feb 2014 #137

I like this part where you say: Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #142

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed your laugh. BellaKos Feb 2014 #144

oh, observations, is it? Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #154

that was the in my face i picked up too. all the evidence ect... cant judge. people he knows seabeyond Feb 2014 #146

i re read it. that was so god damn insulting. in the "guise" of rational thought. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #148

Rational thought BellaKos Feb 2014 #152

none of that has anything to do with what the 6 or so people in this subthread was talking about. seabeyond Feb 2014 #153

My initial post was a response made directly to Waiting for Everyman. n/t BellaKos Feb 2014 #156

your initial comment was.... i am going to back you on this. to wfe. seabeyond Feb 2014 #158

then you believe, even if allen raped dylan, for her to speak out now makes her just as bad? seabeyond Feb 2014 #147

No insult meant. BellaKos Feb 2014 #149

people in this subthread spoke out because it was stated that even IF allen raped her, her talking seabeyond Feb 2014 #150

seabeyond BellaKos Feb 2014 #155

she said whether true or not. whether he molested or not. so he molest... what dylan did is AS bad. seabeyond Feb 2014 #164

and to make it really clear. telling me i have been hurt by men, hence this is why i seabeyond Feb 2014 #151

I'm not playing. You can reference my previous responses if you like. n/t BellaKos Feb 2014 #157

i am not playing. but i see you refuse to take ownership, too. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #159

Calling an survivor of sexual assault an "abuser" is also emotional BainsBane Feb 2014 #168

What a nice surprise, Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #166

Strawmen? BainsBane Feb 2014 #169

Do you see the words *I* *don't* *think* in that sentence you quoted? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #172

More evasion BainsBane Feb 2014 #174

The most ridiculous overblown drivel ever posted on this board. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #175

Stating that regardless of whether Dylan was abused or not, JTFrog Feb 2014 #176

This is why people say that women's issues can't be discussed on DU. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #177

I guess that's true if you can't discuss the issues without being horribly offensive. JTFrog Feb 2014 #179

Is your name Dylan Farrow? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #180

Did you send a letter to Dylan Farrow? JTFrog Feb 2014 #181

Your point was nonexistent and beaten to death yesterday. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #182

And I can tell you how offensive your post was. JTFrog Feb 2014 #183

From two days ago, addressed twice. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #184

"Beaten to death." JTFrog Feb 2014 #185

And the offended are all from the same group. pintobean Feb 2014 #186

No they weren't. JTFrog Feb 2014 #187

We are all human beings BainsBane Feb 2014 #196

Are you saying the jury was not human? Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #205

As a "shit stirrer" I'm small potatoes. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #188

All of your angst toward my "pals" JTFrog Feb 2014 #189

"Angst", that's funny. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #192

You're entitled to your opinion, JTFrog Feb 2014 #194

That your post wasn't hidden BainsBane Feb 2014 #200

Shows it wasn't offensive to the community. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #201

You said "regardless" BainsBane Feb 2014 #198

(sigh) Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #202

Oh, and there is also this. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2014 #219

"regardless of what he did or didn't do, I don't think Dylan, Mia, and Ronan are any better. " bettyellen Feb 2014 #173

+ 1 red dog 1 Feb 2014 #191

"dylan is the abuser now"--this entire post is a projectile vomit of rape culture nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #204

If Dylan Farrow was lying, then Allen could sue in court for defamation Gothmog Feb 2014 #170

Dyland Has Until Approximately Age 48 To Sue Woody in Connecticut for Sexual Abuse Upward Feb 2014 #217

i have no idea who did what to whom, if at all RedstDem Feb 2014 #178

I'll chime in btrflykng9 Feb 2014 #193

How do you know what her motives are? BainsBane Feb 2014 #197

The reason Dylan wrote the letter now is because seeing that piece of shit honored redqueen Feb 2014 #223