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In reply to the discussion: Obama's 2015 budget continues arbitrary quota for private prison beds filled by immigrants. [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)1. "Immigrants who have committed no crimes" will be put in prison? I'm going to have to see the proof
It doesn't seem possible, legal, or ever likely to happen without major repercussions and lawsuits.
It's unconstitutional, unless, of course, they have committed a crime.
Sounds like a fishy attempt to smear the POTUS just as election season is looming.
But I'll check for myself.
ETA from the Washington Post:
...But as illegal crossings from Mexico have fallen to near their lowest levels since the early 1970s, ICE has been meeting Congresss immigration detention goals by reaching deeper into the criminal justice system to vacuum up foreign-born, legal U.S. residents convicted of any crimes that could render them eligible for deportation.
Let's see, when did this begin?
Former ICE director Julie Myers Wood, who led the agency from 2006 to 2008 under President George W. Bush, said a congressional mandate for ICE to maintain a minimum number of detainees was a reasonable guideline at the outset of her tenure, when the Border Patrol was making more than a million arrests per year.
On the surface, it seems that the system set up for a high flow of traffic justifying detention is finding fewer serious cases to meet the quota.
What appears to be a better solution would be to toss the quota and use different resources, like ankle bracelets and home detention, a real money saver that would keep violators working and families intact.
It's probably in the budget, not because Obama wanted it there, but because he doesn't have a line item veto power and Congress members wanted to keep their prison programs fat with taxpayer funding.
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Obama's 2015 budget continues arbitrary quota for private prison beds filled by immigrants. [View all]
woo me with science
Apr 2014
OP
"Immigrants who have committed no crimes" will be put in prison? I'm going to have to see the proof
NYC_SKP
Apr 2014
#1
How do you feel about the government's guaranteeing bed occupancy in private prisons
woo me with science
Apr 2014
#2
See my additional comments. Congress members want to keep their friends in business.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2014
#5
I'm tired of the lie that Republican obstructionism is the problem here.
woo me with science
Apr 2014
#6
It's old news and Obama has since come out in favor of reducing the number of slots
NYC_SKP
Apr 2014
#29
So the OP is correct and you are LYING in denouncing it as "LIES" down thread.
cthulu2016
Apr 2014
#31
"Sounds like a fishy attempt to smear the POTUS just as election season is looming"
Cali_Democrat
Apr 2014
#4
Unforunately, it's a law, and this budget (once again) proposes reducing the number.
frazzled
Apr 2014
#7
Don't be absurd. You're accusing people of "lying" for pointing out the facts.
ProSense
Apr 2014
#37
As the president has no line item veto, a law passed under Article 1 section 8
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#9
Does no one teach civics anymore? You do realize of course that the president is charged
msanthrope
Apr 2014
#51
"Yes, Obama's budget for 2015 proposes a very small decrease in the number of quota beds."
ProSense
Apr 2014
#22
"The request for this token decrease has been made before, with no serious effort, ever...
ProSense
Apr 2014
#27
Your post and links are LIES. So you resort to insults. Typical when losing the argument.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2014
#24
You keep ignoring the fact the the OP has backtracked and admitted a decrease n/t
ProSense
Apr 2014
#36
All the edits can be seen by clicking the "Thread Info" button at the bottom of the OP...
SidDithers
Apr 2014
#33
There is no law that the President must maintain quotas for the imprisonment of human beings
woo me with science
Apr 2014
#40
Um... YES! ("Maybe the next President could simply leave out funding for any law s/he opposes.")
cthulu2016
Apr 2014
#45
There is no law requiring the President to budget any particular amount for this in his proposals
TheKentuckian
Apr 2014
#48
Obam is clueless when it comes to undocumented workers, border enforcement, etc.
Vattel
Apr 2014
#43