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In reply to the discussion: Father of CA Shooting Victim Points Directly at NRA [View all]bossy22
(3,547 posts)86. there is one problem with this and you actually mentioned it
Especially when it's a first time killer with no record to indicate that he's a danger to society
Until "pre-crime" is developed or something similar we cannot predict with absolute confidence that said person won't go out and kill someone. Someone that "puts on a good show" will always fool authorities. We can't change that
Our society can't seem to find a common ground that preserves the rights of law abiding gun owners and keeps them out of the hands of criminals and serial killers
I have a problem when people say this because in fact we do have a system in place- the background check or National Criminal Instant Check. Especially in California this "compromise" is even more present. California requires you to pass a safety test before you can purchase any weapon. You must submit to a background check that checks for criminal and MENTAL Disqualifications. You must wait 10 days before you can actually pick up your weapon. Every sale is recorded and a record is sent to the State for their database. I don't know about you, but to me this sounds like a pretty reasonable system.
You can make the background checks more effective theoretically by allowing them to check your medical records as well. But this is contrary to our medical privacy laws and would set off a whole different set of issues. In NYS, the recent SAFE act has a similar problem under its mental health provisions. Many health professionals objected to them because of privacy issues and I believe they haven't gone into effect yet for these reasons.
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As a Californian, I would appreciate links to "AG Harris...confiscating guns from residences"
Hekate
May 2014
#104
agreed, right now it's not working very well, but that doesn't mean it can't
passiveporcupine
May 2014
#130
Actually, he IS. We ALL are - if we agree about this UBER-excessive gun violence problem.
calimary
May 2014
#59
In my opinion, stabbing is face to face, personal confrontation and punishment. This is a type of
DhhD
May 2014
#47
Yes, it is unless you attack the people you want to kill while they are sleeping
passiveporcupine
May 2014
#131
I would like to know which videos the family and police where aware of prior to the shooting spree.
dixiegrrrrl
May 2014
#48
On top of the parents' and therapist's concern, plus the disturbing youtube videos, the
MoonRiver
May 2014
#21
"The parents could have..."Once a child is 18, parental rights are pretty much terminated regardless
Hekate
May 2014
#108
Canada does not have more guns per resident than the US. Michael Moore is wrong about that.
DanTex
May 2014
#115
How about we also blame the people who made it possible for him to do so? N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2014
#127
A weapon is an extension of self. Any machine is an extension that does the work of what is in the
DhhD
May 2014
#51
Let's see if noted politicians will propose measures to thwart the "industry"...
Eleanors38
May 2014
#57
When is the right to live going to be more important than the right to take one?
liberal N proud
May 2014
#55
very patiently and over many years same way you create jobs with protectionism
randys1
May 2014
#112
You do realize there are about 50 gun murders in UK, 8500+ in US every year.
Dems to Win
May 2014
#99