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roguevalley

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49. I heard a conventional wisdom story about her that because her book sales have fallen

Thu Jul 3, 2014, 07:03 PM

Jul 2014

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off abruptly this soon in her tour that her 'inevitability' is in jeopardy. apparently, it is a sign of softening support among those looking for a candidate when this happens. I don't pretend to be beltway but it is an interesting observation. I agree with Maher. If she doesn't go away she will do it all over again, alienate the people who don't love her already. And no matter how much the hillary lovers want it, she has to appeal to more than dems. She has to appeal to a vast swath of people. Polls now aren't worth the powder to blow them to hell. Name recognition carries you a long way in the early days.

Edit: here is the link to this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/hillary-clinton-book-sales_n_5552694.html

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Is Hillary the rodeo clown of the Democratic Party? [View all] yurbud Jul 2014 OP

Hillary Clinton is not a clown. We can say she is right here and wrong there but calling her a hrmjustin Jul 2014 #1

in function, not literally yurbud Jul 2014 #3

Not in anyway. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #7

I agree with you, but some here are likely to misinterpret what you are saying, either inadvertently or intentionally. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #80

mostly intentionally. That don't seem to be that stupid since their yurbud Jul 2014 #113

1. You obviously have no appreciation for the important work done by rodeo clown. Scuba Jul 2014 #8

And you don't support her because you believe she is more rw than other Dem candidates. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #13

I dont believe they meant the clown part as 'clown'. A rodeo clown will throw themselves roguevalley Jul 2014 #40

She is rusty. Give her some time. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #41

some of her donors are holding off until she decides if that marc guy who fucked roguevalley Jul 2014 #42

Andi hope she gets rid of howard wolfson. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #43

She's running an inevitability campaign. It's clear she's learned nothing. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2014 #46

I heard a conventional wisdom story about her that because her book sales have fallen roguevalley Jul 2014 #49

I think it helps to be OUTSIDE the beltway for a lot of this yurbud Jul 2014 #117

agreed but there is a lot of 'we're not a monarchy' even among those who like her. roguevalley Jul 2014 #118

I didn't mean that as pro or con Hillary. If anything, the insider view is not pessimistic enough yurbud Jul 2014 #120

SHE is not running any inevitability campaign, she's not even running for anything at the moment. Beacool Jul 2014 #56

There's plenty of non-media going with inevitability. jeff47 Jul 2014 #78

Hard to believe, but you're right. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #81

that was roughly my intention though I don't know if it's hers or just a happy accident yurbud Jul 2014 #114

How about if we called Warren a clown, Beacool Jul 2014 #55

Please re-read my post. I clearly stated that Hillary is NOT a clown. Scuba Jul 2014 #60

I'd be happy to call Warren a rodeo clown. winter is coming Jul 2014 #71

we used to call this kind of tripe flamebait bigtree Jul 2014 #2

I still call it that. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #5

Yes, we did. displacedtexan Jul 2014 #11

Agreed. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #25

Ditto. eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #84

Yes and it would've been locked. We at least need unrec. NYC Liberal Jul 2014 #115

No, Clinton is not a clown. conservaphobe Jul 2014 #4

Thanks for that LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #47

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jul 2014 #57

She replaces Biden as Chief of Dumb Stuff fadedrose Jul 2014 #6

Agreed. She's rivaling the gaffe machine himself LittleBlue Jul 2014 #19

Please, we would do well to fight - not concede - the smears of the right karynnj Jul 2014 #38

I agree, Karynnj, but we don't have really to worry about HRC. mylye2222 Jul 2014 #39

You're missing the point fadedrose Jul 2014 #97

Do not fret. Beacool Jul 2014 #86

With so many Republicans and Tea Partiers to denigrate, Laurian Jul 2014 #9

offering our opinions about her problems and behavior isn't trashing. Jeez. Is it roguevalley Jul 2014 #44

Didn't you get the memo? It's a coronation for Hillary; open debate will not be tolerated. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #87

oh. :D roguevalley Jul 2014 #90

Because they aren't Democrats LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #48

Because, just like the RW, they fear her. Beacool Jul 2014 #59

Like you ever cared about the opinions, interests, or needs of anyone that doesn't show fealty to TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #102

I just served on a jury and voted to leave it. darkangel218 Jul 2014 #10

You should skip serving on juries. This isn't an attack, it is merely an opinion. FSogol Jul 2014 #14

No, she shouldn't LittleBlue Jul 2014 #20

Lolololol was 7-0.to leave it darkangel218 Jul 2014 #21

Only if they have the same reason for doing so. Again, only an opinion. FSogol Jul 2014 #23

lulz!! darkangel218 Jul 2014 #27

Unrec. Clumsy attempt to diminish the accomplishments of a woman by buying into FSogol Jul 2014 #12

Seems you missed the point of the OP. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #91

Seems like you should read the 3rd & 4th sentences in my post. FSogol Jul 2014 #94

Yes, that's exactly why I think you missed the point. nm rhett o rick Jul 2014 #96

Who are the current Democrats HRC is distracting attention from? Boomerproud Jul 2014 #15

You are right, mylye2222 Jul 2014 #16

The ones polling in the single digits, light years behind her. Beacool Jul 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #17

The fact only that the OP was alerted, mylye2222 Jul 2014 #18

I did not alert on it and would not have. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #22

Hi Justin, how have you been? darkangel218 Jul 2014 #28

Oh I am ok. The heat and humidity here in NYC is awful. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #29

Im glad you enjoyed your weekend! darkangel218 Jul 2014 #31

Wow! I hope it cools down soon. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #32

I have never alerted, but the fact that someone can write such utter bullshit in a supposed Beacool Jul 2014 #54

But DU is for all Democrats and democrats, not just DLC types... immoderate Jul 2014 #76

No, it's not for all Democrats. Beacool Jul 2014 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2014 #119

She's liberal, just not liberal enough for the purists. Beacool Jul 2014 #121

real voters want to coddle Wall St, outsource our jobs, privatize public education, and start yurbud Jul 2014 #79

Do you actually believe the B.S. you write? Beacool Jul 2014 #88

So she doesn't back TPP, military interventions, right wing coups like the one in Honduras on her yurbud Jul 2014 #112

I get your point but I don't think she is a clown or a distraction tularetom Jul 2014 #24

The Beltway media may very well be the driving force behind her running Boomerproud Jul 2014 #35

she doesn't quite have Bill's gift of connecting with regular folks that carried him through all the yurbud Jul 2014 #53

Posts like this make me wish we still had the unrec button. Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #26

Hillary has a lot of baggage in that unstoppable train and a lot of CYA to do. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #30

And she will have to prove she deserves the nomination. hrmjustin Jul 2014 #33

Gaffes? Hardly rock Jul 2014 #34

it's not enough to say the republicans are worse. That doesn't get people to the polls yurbud Jul 2014 #50

No, but almost 90% approval by Democrats will. Beacool Jul 2014 #66

that's all name recognition. If you asked what policy positions lead to their support... yurbud Jul 2014 #67

Who says it doesn't? treestar Jul 2014 #99

I think this is more like the Super Bowl... Orsino Jul 2014 #36

She dodges the sniper fire.... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #37

No, she is the Great White of the Big Tent...fuck with her and she will rip your ego to shreds. Rex Jul 2014 #45

to the DLCers squealing like stuck pigs in this thread, spend as much time figuring out how your yurbud Jul 2014 #51

clown bigtree Jul 2014 #58

Breaking News: Hillary was a founding member of DLC. HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #105

from where I sit, the idiocy just oozes from what you've written here bigtree Jul 2014 #109

Let me see if I get this... HooptieWagon Jul 2014 #110

no, you don't get it. bigtree Jul 2014 #116

Step aside, we don't give a flying fig if you like her or not. Beacool Jul 2014 #64

smug entitlement may not be a winning strategy yurbud Jul 2014 #68

Rodeo clown????????? This must be the most asinine anti-Hillary OP I have read so far. Beacool Jul 2014 #52

I think the responses were pretty much what you could expect, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #62

It is still utter bullshit. Beacool Jul 2014 #65

I think many missed the point intentionally because it's potentially more damaging yurbud Jul 2014 #69

Well, if it's intentional Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2014 #70

exactly. Hillary was the presumptive nominee in 2008 too, but was bested by a newbie yurbud Jul 2014 #72

It's true; the ones who gain name recognition are the bull riders, winter is coming Jul 2014 #74

Your point is well taken, certainly not as an insult. Some people here need to lighten up. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #83

There's a BIG difference between a rodeo clown and a circus clown. Can't believe how sensitive people are around here. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #82

Re: her 'dead broke' remark demigoddess Jul 2014 #63

The Clintons were in debt in 2000 and now worth over 60 million. rhett o rick Jul 2014 #92

it is if you are a former president. demigoddess Jul 2014 #98

You are making my point. Why did Reagan get $2 million dollars for a trip to Japan? rhett o rick Jul 2014 #108

I think Hillary is Banksy MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #73

Insulting and unnecessary theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #75

Make them laugh... immoderate Jul 2014 #77

Posters protesting "Hillary is not a clown" have no idea how heroic rodeo clowns are Bucky Jul 2014 #89

Interesting thread tiredtoo Jul 2014 #93

I understand what you are saying, but don't agree with the way you said it davidpdx Jul 2014 #95

We all want someone more progressive demigoddess Jul 2014 #100

False, I have voted Democratic every time and they just become more and more corporate owned TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #104

"Better a person who likes progressives that someone who hates them." winter is coming Jul 2014 #106

she is a lightening rod magical thyme Jul 2014 #101

None are so blind as those who refuse to see. TheKentuckian Jul 2014 #103

I suspect many here didn't read past the subject line. ZombieHorde Jul 2014 #107

She is the next President of the USA! Saying she was "dead broke" was not a gaffe. 6000eliot Jul 2014 #111