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55. The problem from my perspective is that our capitalist

Wed Jul 9, 2014, 08:20 AM

Jul 2014

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economic system is driving all that we do. No one we elect is going to be that great given the economic system we and they will be dealing with. The most we can do is try to hold the rights we have. At least with Hillary or Elizabeth running we will have a shot at putting a woman in office. My personal preference is Elizabeth but I'm not going to tear Hillary down because it weakens a decent candidate. She is so, so much better than the potential candidates I see on the right - especially Paul Ryan or Rand Paul. Those 2 have especially dangerous views of women and we really don't need that given the Hobby Lobby ruling. We are going down a very dangerous path.

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This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #1

The only way the Hillary bashing will end is if she comes out and says without reservation Arkansas Granny Jul 2014 #2

Sen. Clinton: IWR = Yea. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #3

No, it's not. Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #5

How many innocent people, families destroyed, on the back of her vote? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #6

I made my point, you made yours Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #10

I said nothing about Kerry or anyone else. They are not the presumed D front-runners. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #18

I understand Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #20

Understand this, also... ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #22

That makes perfect sense. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jul 2014 #28

It does make sense. I will back the most liberal candidate. If that candidate is not the ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #50

That is fair and not the point I was making - TBF Jul 2014 #44

I don't hate Hillary. I campained by her's and Bill's side, helping him to become ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #49

More than a good case imho Tom BootinUp Jul 2014 #45

Indeed. There is a campaign to whitewash her support of war and corporations LittleBlue Jul 2014 #15

Could be, but there are DUers who don't like Hillary, too, MineralMan Jul 2014 #4

She voted "yea" for a contrived and disastrous tragedy of a war. I won't forget that. ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #7

My focus is on the 2014 elections, but I will comment MineralMan Jul 2014 #11

Well, you made a big deal about a few weeks ago and alluded that you wouldn't ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2014 #16

Did I? I do consider 2014 far more important than MineralMan Jul 2014 #17

You're right about this though - TBF Jul 2014 #48

Nor should we forget that ill-conceived vote - it tells you everything you need to know about Hillary... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #35

Nor should we forget that ill-conceived vote - it tells you everything you need to know about Hillary... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2014 #36

And then she turns and tells Obama to take out Assad. LLD Jul 2014 #43

I don't have many problems figuring out where they are coming from LordGlenconner Jul 2014 #9

Yeah I was thinking #1 - TBF Jul 2014 #13

Our presumed front-runner is heavily compromised. Orsino Jul 2014 #37

Yes, that seems to be the case. MineralMan Jul 2014 #14

it has a lot to do with the fact that she appears the most likely to run bigtree Jul 2014 #8

Are the bashers looking for the perfect candidate, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2014 #12

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. 2010 = 2014: freshwest Jul 2014 #21

All I can say is this: Peacetrain Jul 2014 #19

The next few years are going to be interesting. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #23

Yes, as evidenced by this OP I've already had it. nt TBF Jul 2014 #24

Yep nt. Starry Messenger Jul 2014 #25

So your theory is that DUers are bad mouthing Hillary Clinton because the Republicans el_bryanto Jul 2014 #26

We had the Hobby Lobby decison and immediately following TBF Jul 2014 #29

Republican operatives who have low post counts are easy enough to spot el_bryanto Jul 2014 #30

I think once it starts people pile on - TBF Jul 2014 #31

Or, the Clintons deserve criticism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #27

Most politicians do in one form or another - TBF Jul 2014 #32

Opposition to Obama is not "racism", and opposition to Hillary is not "sexism." [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2014 #33

I haven't noticed any sexism regarding Hillary. Have any examples? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2014 #34

That's not what I said - TBF Jul 2014 #38

Hillary has put herself in the news lately Oilwellian Jul 2014 #39

Everyone knows about her book & the superpac TBF Jul 2014 #41

PATRIOT Act. IWR. Keystone XL. WilliamPitt Jul 2014 #40

No argument on legitimate grievances - TBF Jul 2014 #42

Perhaps you're just not paying attention Oilwellian Jul 2014 #46

I actually did before I posted my question - TBF Jul 2014 #47

I'll note that you are a socialist BainsBane Jul 2014 #51

The problem from my perspective is that our capitalist TBF Jul 2014 #55

I agree with much of that. BainsBane Jul 2014 #58

Hillary Bashing? Phlem Jul 2014 #52

She comes out against inequality, we get rehashed talking points. joshcryer Jul 2014 #53

Exactly - TBF Jul 2014 #56

Please link to one of these GOP operatives' threads Union Scribe Jul 2014 #54

Timing is everything B Calm Jul 2014 #57