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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
26. No, I would NOT leave women out of the Constitution
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 06:03 AM
Apr 2012

You might see, for example, the Supreme Court decision in United States v. Virginia, 518 U.S. 515 (1996), in which the Court, interpreting a Constitution that did not include the ERA, nevertheless held by a vote of seven to one that the policy of excluding women from Virginia Military Institute, a state-supported college, was unconstitutional. The lone dissenter was, not surprisingly, Scalia. The only unusual feature of the case was that, for once, Thomas didn't vote with him; Thomas, whose son was attending VMI, recused himself.

I agree with the majority's decision that the Constitution, as currently written, protects women. If Scalia's view had prevailed in United States v. Virginia, there would certainly be a stronger argument to be made for prioritizing the ERA -- but Scalia lost, and would probably lose again even in today's more conservative Court. (The 1996 majority included Kennedy, Ginsburg, and Breyer, who today would surely be joined by Sotomayor and Kagan. The majority also included Rehnquist, and it's possible that Roberts, who clerked for Rehnquist, would emulate his old boss and vote against the discrimination.)

As for women being at the whim of men, I confidently predict that, should the ERA be adopted, there would still be heavy majorities of men in both houses of Congress for the foreseeable future. My point is not to defend discrimination, but to ask what practical difference would be made by the adoption of the ERA.

I couldn't agree more The Blue Flower Apr 2012 #1
...... ingac70 Apr 2012 #2
The ERA Would Not Even Get Through Congress Today AndyTiedye Apr 2012 #3
That's the point.... (nt) jeff47 Apr 2012 #5
politically it would seem like a winner Johonny Apr 2012 #4
Done bradberger29 Apr 2012 #6
rec. KG Apr 2012 #7
What would be the practical effect of passage? Jim Lane Apr 2012 #8
Scott Walker signed the repeal of the Wisconsin Equal Pay enforcement act just last week. dflprincess Apr 2012 #10
I disagree, on two counts Jim Lane Apr 2012 #11
How About... It's The Correct Thing To Do... AND... It's Fucking About Time... WillyT Apr 2012 #20
No, I would NOT leave women out of the Constitution Jim Lane Apr 2012 #26
sorry to say, this is a typical American response: GIVE UP. CTyankee Apr 2012 #18
You're mischaracterizing my position Jim Lane Apr 2012 #25
After experiencing the ERA defeat in the late 70s, I must say that I became pretty cynical. CTyankee Apr 2012 #30
The defeat of the ERA wasn't as complete as it might have been Jim Lane Apr 2012 #31
Yes, I was politically active in that ERA fight back in the late 70s. I was working in D.C. at CTyankee Apr 2012 #32
Thanks for the interesting article Jim Lane Apr 2012 #33
Scalia's argument is monumentally stupid, IMO. To argue, in effect, that you somehow have CTyankee Apr 2012 #35
Kick !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #9
Yes. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #12
3 more states... loyalsister Apr 2012 #13
Wouldn't We Have To Start All Over Again ??? WillyT Apr 2012 #14
Maybe not. There is a movement afoot to start where we left off...with 3 more states to go! CTyankee Apr 2012 #19
Not necessarily loyalsister Apr 2012 #21
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #22
Difficulties with the three-state strategy Jim Lane Apr 2012 #27
Another great idea from WillyT. Zorra Apr 2012 #15
:) WillyT Apr 2012 #16
And Another Thing... The Current Democrats Are Too Stupid/Afraid To See This As An Advantage... WillyT Apr 2012 #17
Not bad. I like. slampoet Apr 2012 #23
Not yet. Wait until the repubicans are trying to patch things up with women, then spring it on them JVS Apr 2012 #24
I asked myself this same thing just the other day. Ship of Fools Apr 2012 #28
It would never make it through. HappyMe Apr 2012 #29
Why yes it is the perfect time! k&r Little Star Apr 2012 #34
I am actually predicting that this will happen soon. BlueIris Apr 2012 #36
Done! loyalsister Apr 2012 #37
Thank You For That !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #38
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