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Voice for Peace

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53. truly. although I don't entirely agree with the dire perspective of the author

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 02:14 PM

Oct 2014

I agree it's an extremely important piece to look at here in the USA.

Even if it isn't ebola there are other possibilities, homegrown ones.

Parents often need to be reminded by their kids' schools to keep the
kids at home if they are sick. I got sick last winter because of somebody's
visiting grandmother coughing in a classroom.

We are probably due for a major health education program in this
nation. World. Not that we have gone backward, educationally speaking
but I bet there are many today who have no idea how a virus spreads,
or the many ways bacteria like to travel.

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Dickensian US Working Conditions Almost Guarantee Ebola Catastrophe [View all] nashville_brook Oct 2014 OP

And I wish I could give 100 recs. raging moderate Oct 2014 #1

the public health issue with the US have no paid sick days policy is nashville_brook Oct 2014 #4

I don't buy this. a) Spain has been freaking out and austerity measures in Europe cali Oct 2014 #2

despite austerity, people in Spain have paid sick days nashville_brook Oct 2014 #7

I know. that was not my point. cali Oct 2014 #8

if you read the piece it's not about the health care system, it's about workplace policy nashville_brook Oct 2014 #9

I read the entire short lousy piece cali Oct 2014 #10

Hahaha. It's an editorial, cali. Please extinguish your hair. DirkGently Oct 2014 #13

ha ha it's bullshit dirk dear. cali Oct 2014 #20

Nope. You just didn't read it right. DirkGently Oct 2014 #28

I woke up this morning with vague flu like symptoms Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #32

Not irrelevant at all. We all come in sick. DirkGently Oct 2014 #34

truly. although I don't entirely agree with the dire perspective of the author Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #53

I read the piece as sardonic DirkGently Oct 2014 #56

someone, probably you, in this thread made mention of those who clean surfaces.. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #58

the movie Contagion actually has great science about vectoring nashville_brook Oct 2014 #60

eeek.. that looks very scary. I'll have to wait for netflix streaming. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #62

it is on streaming -- not sure which one nashville_brook Oct 2014 #71

it's something i've wondered about nashville_brook Oct 2014 #36

Can you imagine if people in Dallas start getting the flu? Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #54

Factors like this are the reason why I'm so concerned. n/t deafskeptic Oct 2014 #66

honestly, i have the same concern for ebola as i do for flu, enterovirus and every other bug nashville_brook Oct 2014 #76

agreed. deafskeptic Oct 2014 #78

just b/c there's dipshits on FOX news boiling over with ebola panic nashville_brook Oct 2014 #49

FFS, it's not about Ebola. Ebola hysteria is the hook because it's current. Gormy Cuss Oct 2014 #114

It is more likely that ebola risk would be enhanced because of the terrible condition of many of JDPriestly Oct 2014 #18

janitors are also among those least likely to have sick days nashville_brook Oct 2014 #21

Yes! JDPriestly Oct 2014 #23

You might (or might not) be surprised to know Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #37

not at all surprising... nashville_brook Oct 2014 #40

Couldn't agree more SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2014 #59

"Dickensian." What a joke. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #3

Indeed Travelman Oct 2014 #6

Nice pronouncement The Traveler Oct 2014 #11

everywhere i've worked, it's considered weak if you don't show up sick nashville_brook Oct 2014 #50

Same here The Traveler Oct 2014 #55

and we're privileged to actually have sick days! nashville_brook Oct 2014 #65

Maybe not Dickensian, but pretty shitty for 21st century America BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #14

It really is a recipe for epidemic. DirkGently Oct 2014 #16

No surprise with that response. Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #33

is that poster someone who is unfamiliar with working in the US? nashville_brook Oct 2014 #47

DURec leftstreet Oct 2014 #5

Pffft. We're the USA!!! We don't want to be like stinking Russia... MattSh Oct 2014 #12

it would be *grotesque* to respond to ebola with reasonable public health policy nashville_brook Oct 2014 #29

Free to be as diseased as we pleases! DirkGently Oct 2014 #43

the chamber of commerces that pleases spreads diseases nashville_brook Oct 2014 #73

I agree that too many people are forced to come to work sick, send their kids to school sick. But, uppityperson Oct 2014 #15

low-wage industries aren't going to "give" sick days if we don't demand it nashville_brook Oct 2014 #72

I wish they would realize that is costs them less to keep a few home than have many get uppityperson Oct 2014 #74

i've been "talking to them" for years on this subject -- the have ALEC behind them nashville_brook Oct 2014 #82

Short-sighted greed bypasses the brain. DirkGently Oct 2014 #87

Excellent post. Again, greed is our nation's worst enemy. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #17

even in corporate, 21 days is enough for even vested level employees to have to dip into nashville_brook Oct 2014 #30

I bought lunch a few days ago at a deli and the server was obviously was sick. progressoid Oct 2014 #19

I've had the Flu Soup many times! nashville_brook Oct 2014 #22

We are subsidizing industry with our health. DirkGently Oct 2014 #31

+1000000 nashville_brook Oct 2014 #42

"Europeans are not in a state of hysteria about Ebola the way the US public is" FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #24

Exactly! Egnever Oct 2014 #44

..and if it thinks, it stinks. kairos12 Oct 2014 #67

just b/c FOX news is reporting badly on this, doesn't mean we don't have nashville_brook Oct 2014 #45

"when you make people work sick, disease is spread" suffragette Oct 2014 #98

It isn't zero BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #63

Compared to other risks and illnesses in this country FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #68

while Africa remains at most risk from widespread ebola virus, the US nashville_brook Oct 2014 #69

Weird thing about epidemics BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #75

also, viruses mutate as they spread nashville_brook Oct 2014 #77

Then you must live in perpetual state of fear. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #79

Well BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #81

Yup Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #96

This should piss off the Turd Way and Kochheads. Rex Oct 2014 #25

yes, some have emerged to stamp around nashville_brook Oct 2014 #70

They would probably defund OSHA Rex Oct 2014 #116

I've been joking about the possible Biblical titles daredtowork Oct 2014 #26

In the U.S., only the wealthy "deserve" handouts. In "The Family" we learn it's their religion. nt valerief Oct 2014 #27

It would be nice to assume that this wasn't an issue in healthcare Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #35

omg that's SO true. it's in all areas of healthcare! nashville_brook Oct 2014 #38

These hospital corporations do not care Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #39

and if you asked them, they'd say they're not in business to care nashville_brook Oct 2014 #41

We NEED single payer Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #46

so true. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #48

Holy crap. We do that to Nurses too? DirkGently Oct 2014 #51

it absolutely should be a matter where the public health dept shuts you down nashville_brook Oct 2014 #57

Yes we do--and to be certain, I am not just talking about Ebola...because there are many other Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #80

That is a shocking testament to our misplaced DirkGently Oct 2014 #86

k/r 840high Oct 2014 #52

K&R blackspade Oct 2014 #61

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2014 #64

Dickensian...? Really? Oktober Oct 2014 #83

Hyperbole! It's not just for breakfast anymore! DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #85

No doctors note, no job. obxhead Oct 2014 #84

I don't know where the data from that graph came from, but Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #88

K&R One Third of Americans One Paycheck Away From Homelessness woo me with science Oct 2014 #89

yep, that's the reality that most people don't see -- it's either work sick or face homelessness. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #94

I have no health insurance, no paid sick days workinclasszero Oct 2014 #90

3 instances of sickness in a year and Dirty Socialist Oct 2014 #91

one of the people who testified for sick days here was an assisted living worker nashville_brook Oct 2014 #93

Good and valid points about the US system, but Crunchy Frog Oct 2014 #92

Maybe the conservative obsession with Ebola is DirkGently Oct 2014 #108

This is so Kicked and Rec'ed defacto7 Oct 2014 #95

Chart is wrong, or possibly out of date. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2014 #97

k&r... spanone Oct 2014 #99

Go Ebola! Katashi_itto Oct 2014 #100

GO USA! At the bottom of the list, as usual. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #101

Just sort the list the other way, and we'll be # 1! nt raccoon Oct 2014 #102

Yep, lol, I got the chart upside down! RKP5637 Oct 2014 #103

If you think "Dickension" is a hyperbole My Good Babushka Oct 2014 #104

spot-on! thank you!! nashville_brook Oct 2014 #105

Always find it odd DirkGently Oct 2014 #106

The graph says it all marions ghost Oct 2014 #107

I've been saying this everyday since the threat began librechik Oct 2014 #109

it's insane that we let people to die every year of less dramatic illnesses nashville_brook Oct 2014 #110

that's the way totalitarianism works librechik Oct 2014 #111

yes indeed -- and it's so depressing to see nashville_brook Oct 2014 #112

I know, that's why librechik Oct 2014 #115

My first thought on seeing that headline stopwastingmymoney Oct 2014 #113