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Octafish

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12. What was it that Plato said about politics?

Wed Oct 22, 2014, 08:45 PM

Oct 2014

"The heaviest penalty for declining to rule is to be ruled by someone inferior to yourself."

We're talking, basically, Republicans.

Regarding Unrestricted STASI USA: It is what Michael Parenti called "The Gangster Nature of the State," what Sen. Frank Church termed the "abyss from which there is no return."

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CIA agents impersonated Senate staffers in order to gain access to Senate communications & drafts [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

Sounds Awfully Like Laws Were Broken, Ma'am.... The Magistrate Oct 2014 #1

Laws, what the Hell are those things? Bandit Oct 2014 #4

Laws are so 20th Century - nt KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #53

Shocking... Mnemosyne Oct 2014 #2

The CIA needs Faux pas Oct 2014 #3

Ha ha. It is to laugh. At treason. Octafish Oct 2014 #5

Looks like the CIA is winning the war over control of the nation. Rex Oct 2014 #7

What was it that Plato said about politics? Octafish Oct 2014 #12

In decades past, the CIA spying on Congress would have been a major issue. Rex Oct 2014 #34

Painfully true, and truly painful. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #49

YUP! burrowowl Oct 2014 #39

Absolutely. joshcryer Oct 2014 #18

Wow, yet I wonder why this thread is mostly ignored? Rex Oct 2014 #6

because CIA is an executive branch agency. grasswire Oct 2014 #9

Are you seriously suggesting that those loyal to the President will shy away from Vattel Oct 2014 #11

Uh Aerows Oct 2014 #27

lol, I hope that is what grasswire was suggesting because it is clearly true. Vattel Oct 2014 #28

I think it is safe to say Aerows Oct 2014 #29

I knew that was grasswire's intent. My question was sort of tongue-in-cheek. Vattel Oct 2014 #31

Okay, didn't get it :D Aerows Oct 2014 #32

wink grasswire Oct 2014 #43

yes grasswire Oct 2014 #44

Octafish Aerows Oct 2014 #45

FYI "Both the Congress and the Executive Branch oversee the CIA’s activities." Number23 Oct 2014 #15

count 'em out grasswire Oct 2014 #20

I'm sure that made sense in your head Number23 Oct 2014 #23

Are you saying the Congress is responsible for the CIA spying on the Congress? LeftyMom Oct 2014 #37

I'm saying exactly what I said. Congress and the White House oversee the CIA Number23 Oct 2014 #40

why so insulting? grasswire Oct 2014 #42

Just responding in kind Number23 Oct 2014 #51

Yes our CIA agents are spying on the Senate lovuian Oct 2014 #8

The CIA has been WAY Aerows Oct 2014 #26

must read the whole article grasswire Oct 2014 #10

''Coziness'' between White House Chief of Staff and CIA Director. Nice. Octafish Oct 2014 #13

+10000 And this is where Third Way feigned concern stops. woo me with science Oct 2014 #58

"A lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure and are real patriots." Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #14

that was telling Vattel Oct 2014 #30

Our intelligence complex is out of control. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #16

So out of control Aerows Oct 2014 #25

At Abu Ghraib, if not earlier at Iran-Contra, this nation lost what little was left of KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #54

Shucks, we let 'em keep The 28 Pages, then it's party time. johnnyreb Oct 2014 #17

Journalists like James Risen noise Oct 2014 #50

Prosecute every last one of them. nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #19

who are you talking about? nt grasswire Oct 2014 #21

I hope she is talking about those in the CIA Aerows Oct 2014 #24

Was the object of my sentence not clear? nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #55

CIA Aerows Oct 2014 #22

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2014 #33

please read the comments section at huffpost. grasswire Oct 2014 #35

I'm here Aerows Oct 2014 #46

thank you aerows grasswire Oct 2014 #62

+100000000 woo me with science Oct 2014 #57

I call that "sedition" Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #36

thank you for understanding the import of this grasswire Oct 2014 #41

Good lord PorridgeGun Oct 2014 #38

It's a rather devastating look Aerows Oct 2014 #47

This is so dangerous Aerows Oct 2014 #48

As is so often the case, Charlie Pierce of Esquire's "The Politics Blog" nails KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #52

perfect nt grasswire Oct 2014 #61

k and r nashville_brook Oct 2014 #56

Thank you for this thread. woo me with science Oct 2014 #59

And there are some here who think... Xolodno Oct 2014 #60