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In reply to the discussion: Are you OK with the Democratic Congresspeople voting for the Keystone Pipeline? [View all]B Calm
(28,762 posts)6. As far as I'm concerned this pipeline is an illegal immigrant.
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Are you OK with the Democratic Congresspeople voting for the Keystone Pipeline? [View all]
kentuck
Nov 2014
OP
Can you point out what part of the opposition you're not certain is fact-based?
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#66
I agree! To me the result is the same either way, using antiquated energy sources. That said,
RKP5637
Nov 2014
#253
The US Government has no say in who takes over land in this country for the purpose of making
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#214
The point that is coming across to me is that oil will be transported across the US so
rhett o rick
Nov 2014
#226
No one who understands this issue, this particular oil, can be agnostic about the pipeline.
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#245
The flow of goods and services moved across the globe long before, what is going to be, the
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#257
So in essence what you are saying is that because we have already allowed some really bad
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#271
'Little' is better than nothing. But it will do more than a little to protect this environment. We
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#287
Canada has no right to transport shit over our nation. If they want to ship it China so bad then use
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#269
In the real world water is required for life. You threaten the water you threaten life.
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#285
Hoping for magic future fixes does not address the actual threat no matter how well intentioned.
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#296
Get a horse, the world survived without cars that go 'vroom-vroom on the highway for
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#256
Admittedly it takes a little skill to handle a horse. Anyone can handle a combustion engine. So I
sabrina 1
Nov 2014
#291
one big difference unless it's my imagination between rail and pipeline
Voice for Peace
Nov 2014
#194
Correct. AND...invisibility of it is preferred by the owners and transporters.
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#196
Will they say they are voting for the Keystone Pipeline because the people want and need it?
L0oniX
Nov 2014
#5
And yet many, many things with majority support from the people are simply ignored for years on end
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2014
#118
Every American I know who supports KXL mistakenly thinks it will move American oil.
SunSeeker
Nov 2014
#205
No I am not, at this point in time I am not OK with the Democratic party on the whole
Autumn
Nov 2014
#7
+1. It is also described as the end of all life on planet earth. I don't get it.
FSogol
Nov 2014
#14
So, Kocks are bad- so we must oppose- ignore the 100's of other pipelines being built
snooper2
Nov 2014
#22
There is a huge fresh water aquifer that it crosses right over. We do not have the technology to
jwirr
Nov 2014
#33
This is dirty oil this time and there are many of us who do not want the farmers etc to continue
jwirr
Nov 2014
#169
I object! I live 20 minutes from Port Arthur, Texas where the Koch refinery will refine this extra
Dustlawyer
Nov 2014
#178
Nolan is my rep. The other two I do not have anything to do with. I am surprised at Nolan - he is
jwirr
Nov 2014
#121
I read that Senator Amy Klobuchar is going to vote for it. She needs to hear from you.
Maineman
Nov 2014
#172
I see the Third Way pivot from denying it will happen to defending the pipeline is in progress.
woo me with science
Nov 2014
#34
I don't think there is anything congress can vote on. They have to have permits approved to refine t
Sunlei
Nov 2014
#39
No. The pipeline is a terrible infrastructure investment and money better spent on renewables
on point
Nov 2014
#41
The money society has, public and private. The incentives are all wrong if this seems good
on point
Nov 2014
#116
kentuck, I'm bookmarking this thread so that DU will remember when it passes
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2014
#45
Shit, I was writing & calling fucking McTurtle and the far worse Dumbing at least weekly for months
TheKentuckian
Nov 2014
#88
The pipeline does nothing for us, as a nation. And it could result in an environmental disaster.
Enthusiast
Nov 2014
#50
No. And this very discussion is indicative of what is wrong with the party.
hamsterjill
Nov 2014
#53
No. I don't want my reps voting for the Koch brothers' dark money payday.
MatthewStLouis
Nov 2014
#54
Just a rhetorical question: who remembers the 2013 Mayflower, Arkansas oil spill?
MatthewStLouis
Nov 2014
#59
We may want to ask ourselves is it better to continue to transport the oil by rail and road
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#62
Let the Canadians figure it out. Maybe they could ship it by rail to their coastline.
B Calm
Nov 2014
#96
Oh, yea that would fix the problem. In the meantime is it better to ship by rail or
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#107
Perhaps it would be better to just shut down oil production worldwide,guess we could revert to horse
Thinkingabout
Nov 2014
#165
Driving is cheaper with electric cars and renewable energy by a factor of 10!
grahamhgreen
Nov 2014
#239
If safety is your concern, then you should want to leave the tar sand in the ground
grahamhgreen
Nov 2014
#242
The problem is the Dems haven't figured out HOW to make it a winning issue.
Martin Eden
Nov 2014
#92
The problem is the potential environmental disaster, and the fact that the only upside to the
Marr
Nov 2014
#106
Considering only 30% or so oppose it, it's a good bet a lot of Dem voters support it.
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2014
#148
So, it loses us votes, especially among those that sat out the last election.
grahamhgreen
Nov 2014
#151
No, absolutely not! Who do they think will benefit? Certainly not any of us!
scarletwoman
Nov 2014
#123
Not Okay with that. i have been assured, though, that policy and issues do not matter as
djean111
Nov 2014
#129
No N O! Against Fossil fuels continuing and the damage that that project is doing and will do.
glinda
Nov 2014
#143
A vote for Keystone should be reason enought for removal from the Democratic Party
IdiocracyTheNewNorm
Nov 2014
#161
It is none of our business, any more, how people vote once they get into office.
djean111
Nov 2014
#166
Nordstrom's says they're better off without some customers. Similarly, the Democratic Party ...
Scuba
Nov 2014
#170
NO! Why should the rest of them want to lose for the same reason corporatists lost this election?!
cascadiance
Nov 2014
#197
This pipeline will hurt middle class jobs, exactly why Democrats and Republicans want it
whereisjustice
Nov 2014
#204
More Third Way talking points conveniently omitting Third Way corporate complicity.
woo me with science
Nov 2014
#234
In case you have any actual interest in this discussion, context is important.
cheapdate
Nov 2014
#263
The AFL-CIO and big labor in general is backing the Keystone Pipeline - so I suspect that many
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2014
#274