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TheKentuckian

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82. I've seen neigh onto zero push back from "moderates" as they have been conflated and cooped

Sun Nov 30, 2014, 03:35 PM

Nov 2014

for at least 20 years and as such they have become indistinguishable.

It also seems like a fantasy Label as provided here because the right wing of the Democratic party is damn difficult to discern from the rest of the right wing in many critical policy areas with no more regard for the positions of the left than the so called centrists though with less hissing and spitting about the left perhaps.

If "moderates" are not "centrists" they seem to mostly work and allow them to hide out amongst them for them come policy time. I can't see any practical difference in outcomes or aims.

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Poll: What are your politics [View all] samsingh Nov 2014 OP

good to see no right wing responses samsingh Nov 2014 #1

fair distribution strongly to the middle of the left samsingh Nov 2014 #70

Very liberal with Socialist elements Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #2

That would be a good step. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #5

Well, the first one would still need some seed money Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #12

That's my viewpoint. Scandinavian style socialism. The essentials and environment belong to all. freshwest Nov 2014 #30

+100 n/t southern_belle Nov 2014 #55

According to all those online charts... LP2K12 Nov 2014 #3

This is my result Kaleva Nov 2014 #4

According to the link that was provided, I lean left and toward libertarian. deafskeptic Nov 2014 #21

Just a heads up BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #24

Thanks for the update. LP2K12 Dec 2014 #91

my result in more like Gandhi samsingh Dec 2014 #94

bad test BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #23

yup, it's designed to give the non-political person a libertarian result wyldwolf Nov 2014 #29

why do you think it's bad? samsingh Dec 2014 #95

Same here Chipala Nov 2014 #80

I'd never taken that one, looks like I really am a liberal, LOL. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2014 #89

I'm not sure how to respond. If I'm far enough to the left to have some liberal_at_heart Nov 2014 #6

wondering the same thing marym625 Nov 2014 #14

What? daleanime Nov 2014 #7

The reason why BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #25

i ran out of spaces - could a socialist be considered extreme left? samsingh Dec 2014 #92

I don't know...Liberal I guess.. yuiyoshida Nov 2014 #8

Its a terrible libertarian quiz BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #22

okay yuiyoshida Nov 2014 #57

Interesting davidpdx Nov 2014 #60

We are in a good group. Liberal Lolita Nov 2014 #84

I had to make a copy of it yuiyoshida Nov 2014 #86

Very liberal but the liberal/socialist/progressive labels are not consistent. Both quiz results NRaleighLiberal Nov 2014 #9

"Very Liberal" I guess hifiguy Nov 2014 #10

I''m similar Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #13

How interesting; you didn't put "moderate" in the list... brooklynite Nov 2014 #11

Socialist Libertarian as in Noam Chomsky stripe. 2banon Nov 2014 #15

What is the difference btn "Very Liberal" & "Progressive"? RiverLover Nov 2014 #16

I think Very Liberal is to the left of Progressive. samsingh Dec 2014 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Nov 2014 #17

Voted very liberal mvd Nov 2014 #18

Other Hatchling Nov 2014 #19

The test upthread is not very good BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #20

You're missing one of the largest groups - moderates. Rex Nov 2014 #26

No they shouldn't because the term is utterly meaningless in practical definition other than maybe TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #75

I have to disagree with that, I think you are talking about Centrists - which are not moderates imo Rex Nov 2014 #76

I've seen neigh onto zero push back from "moderates" as they have been conflated and cooped TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #82

'Very liberal' probably is the best fit here; but I would call myself a Europaean socialist LeftishBrit Nov 2014 #27

politicalcompass.org is a way better and more nuanced test. truebluegreen Nov 2014 #28

I consider myself part of the political up Johonny Nov 2014 #31

I lean liberal. GGJohn Nov 2014 #32

Left Liberal DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2014 #33

Extremely anti-authoritarian, I was born this way. Kalidurga Nov 2014 #34

That's about where I fall on that test, Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #36

I think more people do if they are honest with themselves. Kalidurga Nov 2014 #38

Without definitions it is impossible to make choices here. cbayer Nov 2014 #35

Socialist. Neoma Nov 2014 #37

Out in the US at large, I'm definitely liberal to very liberal. But on DU... Silent3 Nov 2014 #39

I been called a fascist by people who suport Stalinist purges of the Democratic Party. baldguy Nov 2014 #44

+1 LostInAnomie Nov 2014 #46

Anarcho-syndicalist, same as I ever was. bluedigger Nov 2014 #40

Political Compass is quite good hifiguy Nov 2014 #69

Here i am/ donco Nov 2014 #41

Left-wing libertarian / very Liberal (nt) LostOne4Ever Nov 2014 #42

I find the poll a kick in the pants. Most of the Conservatives among us rhett o rick Nov 2014 #43

I noticed that too. Cognitive Dissonance? RiverLover Nov 2014 #51

Conservative is an option. The problem is that Conservatives have a bad name and for good reason. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #53

...but "Moderate" is not brooklynite Nov 2014 #66

I think one should be able to commit between "Slightly Liberal" and "Conservative". rhett o rick Nov 2014 #67

Because it is a temperament rather than an ideology at this point and has been rendered meaningless TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #78

So someone who isn't moderate is choosing to define moderate... brooklynite Nov 2014 #83

Meaningless. What is "extreme" and what isn't? There is no standard candle and as such becomes TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #88

when I was young I was kind of moderate. My views have changed little rurallib Nov 2014 #45

Proud lefty. nt cyberswede Nov 2014 #47

me too samsingh Nov 2014 #85

What's the difference between very liberal and progressive? sakabatou Nov 2014 #48

That was my Q. I put "progressive" just because they looked lonely & had fewer votes. haha RiverLover Nov 2014 #52

I said 'Extreme Right.' onehandle Nov 2014 #49

What does "extreme left" mean? scarletwoman Nov 2014 #50

LOL. If you are left of H. Clinton-Sachs you are viewed by some as "extreme". If you want single rhett o rick Nov 2014 #54

I'm an FDR/JFK/Carter/EW/Sanders Democrat. pacalo Nov 2014 #56

I'm an unrepentant Trotskyist. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #58

What is the difference between Liberal, Very Liberal, Progressive, and Extreme Left? oberliner Nov 2014 #59

it's about degrees on an issue samsingh Nov 2014 #62

Gotcha oberliner Nov 2014 #68

Ha! The four who voted Libertarian davidpdx Nov 2014 #61

I'll answer to socialist PDittie Nov 2014 #63

that's a good one. samsingh Nov 2014 #65

Pretty much this: devils chaplain Nov 2014 #64

I'm right in the Left-Liberal section Bettie Nov 2014 #71

Pro Universal Healthcare, Pro Choice, Anti Drug War... Shoulders of Giants Nov 2014 #72

Ideally collectivist anarchism. NuclearDem Nov 2014 #73

It depends on who you ask. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2014 #74

Liberal/Libertarian Chipala Nov 2014 #77

I see these self-identifying polls on here fairly often, but this one.... socialist_n_TN Nov 2014 #79

I hate these terms tularetom Nov 2014 #81

Socialist. WinkyDink Nov 2014 #87

I refuse to limit myself to one catagory Revanchist Nov 2014 #90

Liberal/Progressive damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #96

Depends on whom you ask. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #97