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TheKentuckian

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107. Nobody is helping me and mine up we are on our own, we have to get out here and work it is our
Tue Jan 13, 2015, 09:44 AM
Jan 2015

survival in the present and all we have to build on in the future don't tell me I have to wait, don't tell my niece and nephew they have to wait, don't tell my unborn child they have to wait because there is no waiting, you stop swimming you drown in this world and nobody is fixing to drown while some few relatively powerless people demand a fucking conversation instead of policies to increase self determination, independence, and prosperity.

Then the "consequences" of not having the "conversation" (whatever that is and whatever it can do) is more poverty, less independence, and more poverty supposedly to punish whites but when you look at demographics and trends that the weight falls heaviest on those you are supposed to be passionate about lifting up.

FUCK THAT!

If you oppose my class interests then you are opposing my race interests as well and if you magically can you are still opposing the needs and interests of myself, my family, and my friends and I won't be playing along, instead if it's a fight tooth and nail because you are trying to fuck me and mine over in favor of the interests of the central oppressors and architects and chief profiteers of racist power structures while hiding behind some crusade all but devoid of actionable items.

It seems deeply at odds with any decent aim that the lion's share of "the plan" to achieve them is just more of the same, increasing the dragon's hoard of the same oppressors, and strip mining the Bill of Rights into nonexistence.

Seems awfully convenient to me and much likely using black people as human shields to protect your class interests to me. More poverty and less opportunity is not the fix for people of color in this country, tired of waiting? Well for most of us all is happening is the line is getting longer.

Don't give me this shit, you sink the boat and you KNOW who gets the lifeboats and it ain't us.

You want to punish Pharaoh? Making him richer, more powerful, and separated from the people while forgetting the instructions on having the Angel of Death pass our houses is not going to do it at all. Particularly when the plan isn't designed for the pharaoh anyway but to punish his lowest subjects until they free God's people is questionable at best anyway.

Seems the only heart that has been hardened is your own to the cries of your own people.

America [View all] sheshe2 Jan 2015 OP
Certainly, the TPP will help the ever-growing population MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jan 2015 #2
Your post was about Black Americans? MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #4
What don't you get about my damn Op! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #5
So you want Americans to see black Americans as MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #6
Bull. bravenak Jan 2015 #8
That's mean and uncalled for. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #10
What? I think you ignoring the subject of the op was intentional. bravenak Jan 2015 #13
Totally not surprised JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #36
Same old same old. bravenak Jan 2015 #60
It's a game to some. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #140
I know it is. bravenak Jan 2015 #142
I am trying. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #143
I slipped and fell in the snow today, I blame the TPP. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #86
LOL!nt bravenak Jan 2015 #88
Accuracy is often considered mean. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #54
What exactly does TPP have to do with my OP! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #9
I saw your OP as a general post about the need MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #12
Clue~ sheshe2 Jan 2015 #16
So Manny. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #23
I have certainly written OPs on that topic MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #32
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #45
That's an awesome idea - New Disclaimer! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #47
I think that is an excellent idea. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #57
Oh stop the bull! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #26
Results of your Jury Service Veilex Jan 2015 #14
I was #2 Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #19
Thank you! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #22
You were partially correct MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #35
Was just thinking Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #39
Don't stress or be distracted ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #34
+100 JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #37
I know, huh ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #43
ITA JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #53
I know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #55
All kinds of truthy like butt hurt in that thread JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #58
I don't think most are poor BainsBane Jan 2015 #69
This BB JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #70
What is lucky? Folks like you have gotten exactly what they want a party that advances their class TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #71
I gotta disagree JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #77
That's what I'm talking about!nt bravenak Jan 2015 #87
Nobody is helping me and mine up we are on our own, we have to get out here and work it is our TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #107
Seriously? JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #108
Sounds like Ben Carson. bravenak Jan 2015 #112
I don't know about that JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #113
That's what Ben does. bravenak Jan 2015 #115
Well said brave JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #116
Damn straight! bravenak Jan 2015 #117
This . . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #118
How would it "sound like that" to you when I said nary a word about what any white anybody, anywhere TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #122
And you sound like you will say anything and misrepresent anyone to "win" an argument on the interne TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #120
It's the way he pushes his own agenda, regardless of the subject or where he is. bravenak Jan 2015 #121
Oh snap! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #124
Of course I don't believe anything of the sort. What I do believe is more poverty and fewer TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #137
Ok. Here is my point. bravenak Jan 2015 #139
That's fine, bravenak. I don't substantially disagree but it is to my perception besides the point TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #144
What you say you hear from me is what i hear from them. bravenak Jan 2015 #145
And if folks call to end the drug war then somebody will just add it to the "white people wanting TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #146
I'm fucking us by being commited to my interests instead of focusing on the nonexistant TPP? bravenak Jan 2015 #147
Of course I don't believe anything of the sort. What I do believe is more poverty and fewer TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #138
You have the nerve to call me out for calling for everyone on their own? That is your economic TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #119
You're right! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #123
I kept rereading it like.... bravenak Jan 2015 #125
G totally wishes I didn't care JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #126
You feed the homeless and other folks can diss you to whine TPP all day. bravenak Jan 2015 #127
I'm still laughing JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #129
Riesling!! It goes with everything. bravenak Jan 2015 #130
We ain't right! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #131
I know. bravenak Jan 2015 #132
My husband JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #133
Do you bite? bravenak Jan 2015 #134
I little nibble here and there JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #135
Lol!! bravenak Jan 2015 #136
If the problem is a corrupt system and the 1 percent BainsBane Jan 2015 #128
The following is not a statement of support, to my eyes TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #148
I may be stressed, sheshe2 Jan 2015 #141
. bravenak Jan 2015 #3
I am ready to explode right now, bravenak. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #7
He is playing a classic American game. bravenak Jan 2015 #11
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #48
Well, the world as we know it will end at TPP oclock. bravenak Jan 2015 #61
You know I understand! Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #20
I thank you Behind the Aegis! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #21
I will use "whataboutery" from now on. betsuni Jan 2015 #31
I love that term! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #49
Don't explode sheshe JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #38
Unfortunately, I don't see anyone doing much... NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #91
Take your TPP somewhere else, please. bravenak Jan 2015 #93
Poverty will always affect race relations. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #95
Ignoring the voices of those oppressed by racism fixes not a damn thing. bravenak Jan 2015 #98
"My kids do not deserve what they will be getting from America." NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #102
But your kids won't be getting stop and frisked. bravenak Jan 2015 #103
I bring them into this because you mentioned kids. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #104
Not angry. bravenak Jan 2015 #105
His kids aren't black - so you double down! JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #109
I saw that!! bravenak Jan 2015 #114
I think maybe I get it...? elias49 Jan 2015 #15
Where did I post smiling on your brother? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #17
At the risk of butting into something I don't understand, being new... ND-Dem Jan 2015 #27
They're not seeing the big picture. SMC22307 Jan 2015 #74
What an utterly tone deaf post. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #106
Sure I do. elias49 Jan 2015 #28
WOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #50
Try a little harder. elias49 Jan 2015 #52
But you told HER you understand HER ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #65
I understand completely what she "said". elias49 Jan 2015 #66
Here, a gift. A song of reality. bravenak Jan 2015 #68
Kicking your poem, bravenak! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #80
Thank you. bravenak Jan 2015 #85
Who's critical issues? sheshe2 Jan 2015 #79
Legal weed! bravenak Jan 2015 #89
Does that second to last pic say "Kill Cops"? (n/t) SMC22307 Jan 2015 #18
Yes it does. Good way 840high Jan 2015 #24
Good way to unite America sheshe2 Jan 2015 #25
I notice you still have nothing to say... NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #90
It's graffiti. bravenak Jan 2015 #92
The graffiti expresses an ugly sentiment. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #94
Why focus on the grafitti? bravenak Jan 2015 #96
"Why focus on the grafitti?" NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #100
Why do you ignore the young black men murdered by police? bravenak Jan 2015 #101
No kidding. I may be in the minority... SMC22307 Jan 2015 #72
Agree. 840high Jan 2015 #73
I don't think you're in the minority. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #97
Go agree with each other in yr own threads instead of whining that we are not TPPing. bravenak Jan 2015 #99
I am astounded by the number of negative comments to this OP BainsBane Jan 2015 #29
I'm astounded too. betsuni Jan 2015 #30
+1 gollygee Jan 2015 #41
I'm starting to see - that a lot of DUers JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #51
I would guess we are being seen to much. Time limits and all. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #81
Nothing is stopping them from posting their own threads BainsBane Jan 2015 #84
Thanks for that 'heads up' last night JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #110
Vote Hillary! The TPP architect! Only she can make us the impoverished nation we are meant to be! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #33
Whoooosh! Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #40
"We can't talk about racism until there are no more poor white people." gollygee Jan 2015 #42
What about poor and working class blacks, Hispanics, natives, and women? You know most of us too? TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #64
When you hijack a thread about racism to talk about money issues gollygee Jan 2015 #67
I didn't disrupt the thread, I came to as it is with the same bullshit refrain from the same quarter TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #75
Of course everything is about the TPP. bravenak Jan 2015 #62
k&r... spanone Jan 2015 #44
In an effort to bring the discussion back on topic... Veilex Jan 2015 #56
I prefer "This Land" by Woodie Guthrie JanMichael Jan 2015 #59
K&R Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #63
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2015 #76
Beautiful video and a beautiful voice. ChazII Jan 2015 #78
The unfortunate events are what you get when you mix DesertDawg Jan 2015 #82
Just to clarify DesertDawg Jan 2015 #83
Serious truth here - and in your 'clarification' below JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #111
Somehow I was able to read your thread and understand exactly what your point was.... Rowdyboy Jan 2015 #149
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