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In reply to the discussion: How many DUers are old enough to have experienced our bad losses? [View all]TBF
(32,243 posts)266. Of course not -
but mocking some and choosing to ignore the serious questions doesn't do much for your credibility.
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"but the centrists did when we ran progressives" = +100. Not only abandoned, but sabotaged.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#192
Agreed. I am old enough to remember that also. And I go further back. We nominated Jimmy
jwirr
Feb 2015
#210
Mike Royko, a columnist in Chicago, called him Governor Moonbeam. It was sick, but it was all over
Hekate
Feb 2015
#108
Like I said, I liked his columns. They appeared in some paper where I was living in college...
Hekate
Feb 2015
#216
Both Jerry Brown and Bill Clinton are borderline geniuses in their own right and
randys1
Feb 2015
#203
The trouble is that "have to adopt some of it" only lasts up until inauguration.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#206
Because it fits the narrative they are trying to spin and their ideology.
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#148
Also true. But Perot was popular because the economy was terrible and had been terrible
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#121
So we elected a Clinton and Perot's prediction proved true. I don't want to make that mistake
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#204
The arguments don't square. Two of the oldest elections involved the first times we had serious
newthinking
Feb 2015
#122
Jerry Brown has turned California around. When he was elected, the nation was laughing at our
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#92
Ya. Ricky Ray Rector executed. Don't Ask Don't Tell and NAFTA. Just fucking hilarious.
NYC_SKP
Feb 2015
#18
Eugene McCarthy had pretty well been reduced to Harold Stassen status by '92
Algernon Moncrieff
Feb 2015
#161
Gods, do I remember. But it's kind of like being able to remember polio and measles around here...
Hekate
Feb 2015
#9
The only way to alter the two party system is to amend the constitution to end the electoral college
MohRokTah
Feb 2015
#14
It's especially difficult when we mock attempts by the states to call a Constitutional Convention.
Bonobo
Feb 2015
#26
Not a tough call with the number of state legislatures in the hands of theocratic GOP.
longship
Feb 2015
#79
I think the Constitution needs to be modernized, but there are no set procedures for it
Lydia Leftcoast
Feb 2015
#113
"because of a challenge from the left in the primaries" - is horseshit.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2015
#21
Oh, don't mention historical facts that fairly convincingly challenge the OP's premise.
Hissyspit
Feb 2015
#240
Anyone who talks about the 1980 race without mentioning "Iran", "hostage crisis", and...
JHB
Feb 2015
#230
I was just commenting on the better times as opposed to our losses.....kind of a positive spin.
GP6971
Feb 2015
#71
LBJ had signed the Civil Rights Act and had gotten us deeper into the Viet Nam War.
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#100
LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act. The South has voted against Democrats for the most part since
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#102
But I doubt that Hillary will be viewed as having much that is Southern in her background.
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#135
It's been more than 20 years since Hillary had any visible connection to the state
Art_from_Ark
Feb 2015
#136
Some of us can remember the way Nixon sabotaged the Paris peace talks to win the election
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#25
How about Ronnie with the Iran hostage issue? I firmly believe treason doesn't apply
GP6971
Feb 2015
#42
I remember, "Don't change Dicks in the middle of the Screw. Vote for Nixon in '72."
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2015
#29
He had a Democratic Congress and a packed Supreme Court. The rules have now been changed
pnwmom
Feb 2015
#77
Personality is also a factor. And Hillary does not have a winning personality. Bill did. Hillary
JDPriestly
Feb 2015
#104
Mondale and Dukakis were extreme (in what way?) but Reagan and Junior Bush are moderate men of the
TheKentuckian
Feb 2015
#151
+1. There seems to be some collection amnesia going around about what
winter is coming
Feb 2015
#267
The Party flushed McGovern down the toilet is the actual story. And the rest weren't
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#97
I first heard that stale Third Way talking point ("too liberal") from jiacinto
Lydia Leftcoast
Feb 2015
#117
Last November Oregon had 70% turnout, Democratic victory, the midterm before that, 2010 we
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#170
These are an over simplification of how politics works. Most of the liberals you mentioned lost
craigmatic
Feb 2015
#60
Marriage equality happened/is happening at the state level and in the courts.
Spider Jerusalem
Feb 2015
#62
what common tack do you see in those losses? liberal left-wingdom? carter? dukakis?
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#87
Carter didn't lose because of a "challenge from the left in the primaries"
Art_from_Ark
Feb 2015
#105
You mean the way that Mondale and Dukakis ran cringeworthy bad campaigns?
Lydia Leftcoast
Feb 2015
#106
Think you're implying the wrong lessons to be learned from your examples
lexington filly
Feb 2015
#111
Hillary fans have nothing but dishonest sales pitches about why we should move to the right. /nt
Marr
Feb 2015
#124
Sure, we can go ahead and forget the assassination of RFK, Nixon's Vietnam talk sabotage,
villager
Feb 2015
#129
When you look back the only election we lost that we should have won is 00.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2015
#164
Now, THAT is fucking awesome! The liberal left has been responsible for ALL losses! Well done!
djean111
Feb 2015
#159
Nowadays the bashing comes from the Third Way, which has successfully taken over the Democratic
djean111
Feb 2015
#179
I think those who are to the left of Thrid Way are making a huge error by constantly monitizing and
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#183
You give me marriage equality? Please stop that bullshit. Marriage equality is a result of hard
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2015
#167
So, MohRokTah - on which issues specifically do you suggest we "find common ground"
bullwinkle428
Feb 2015
#168
Do you think Muskie would have been able to beat Nixon? I've asked this question before, but never
Chathamization
Feb 2015
#186
"'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all." - Alfred Lord Tennyson
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2015
#190
Typical of today's DU, an OP bashing "the left" and full of distortions gets over 50 recs...
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#198
At least they were pretty quiet about it. Because the OP was thoroughly debunked in many posts.
ieoeja
Feb 2015
#239
"That was a landslide that made me afraid to ever admit I was a Democrat in my local school."
KamaAina
Feb 2015
#213
I would say that Barack Obama is certainly the most liberal president since 1960.
MohRokTah
Feb 2015
#228
"pretend their decimation of the party over the last 2 decades never happened" = indeed.
ND-Dem
Feb 2015
#259
yes, and I'm old enough to remember when there were liberal Republicans
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2015
#270