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In reply to the discussion: 20 years of data show Austrailias gun control laws work [View all]pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)313. You're correct -- it didn't push me anywhere since I don't vote GOP.
Last edited Tue May 3, 2016, 02:04 AM - Edit history (1)
Purchase yourself a clue.
Your ilk doesn't seem to care in the slightest that it's those with criminal backgrounds that commit the VAST majority of gun-related crimes.
But by all means --- keep the smears coming. They've worked so well for you thus far!
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Play as you may, what Was the U.S. drop? Significant? Related to guns in any way?
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#207
Gun control did not visibly change the trend of the curve of homicides in Australia
Albertoo
May 2016
#334
That US rate includes suicides....Australia's suicide rate is 12 per 100,000-not including murders.
EX500rider
Apr 2016
#256
America's suicide rate is 13 per 100,000 with approximately half by gun...
Human101948
May 2016
#259
If guns drove suicides rates then Japan's wouldn't be amoung the highest in the world.....
EX500rider
May 2016
#271
Please stop messing with other peoples fantasies, after all what would the Founders know about war?
Rex
Apr 2016
#234
I used to make the "individual rights" argument until someone educated me on people being plural.
ieoeja
Apr 2016
#45
You have to look to case law, not your friend, for the legal definition of "the people"
hack89
Apr 2016
#48
If you prefer to win an argument to seeking out the truth, then yes, you are absolutely correct. n/t
ieoeja
Apr 2016
#50
Just pointing out that your argument is not universally accepted so it is not "the truth"
hack89
Apr 2016
#51
In the Fourth "The people" "parcularly describes" "the persons." Sorry, individual.
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#79
Even taking your friend's definition at face value no single instance of "the people"
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2016
#80
Yet those same framers went back to their respective states and protected an individual right?
X_Digger
Apr 2016
#192
Explain to me what part of the Second Amendment limits firearm ownership to militia members
TeddyR
Apr 2016
#47
You do not, in fact, know what they care about. You *believe* you know what they care about
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#173
Upthread you 'asssigned' feelings to an entire group of people, most of whom you've never met
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#175
how is the 2A responsible for all of that? as far as murders go, you'd need statistics on how many
dionysus
Apr 2016
#176
"our biggest problem, IMO, is that we are a sick people who resort to violence way too much."
Orrex
Apr 2016
#184
Nice try, but bullshit. Does that public ownership record list all the personal property inside...
Marengo
May 2016
#264
Oh, I noticed you forgot to post a detailed list of the personal possessions in your home...
Marengo
May 2016
#309
Your problem with heller is based on your misunderstanding of the bill of rights...
beevul
Apr 2016
#242
"our biggest problem, IMO, is that we are a sick people who resort to violence way too much."
EX500rider
Apr 2016
#238
i'd say humans in general. since we're the best joint on the block, i'd expect us to be less
dionysus
May 2016
#336
3/5th of person was a bad thing as well, but as the irrational might say of the constitution...
LanternWaste
Apr 2016
#78
I have hunted and owned guns for years and I'm sickened by the bloodshed caused by guns
Botany
Apr 2016
#15
Go on, admit it, you're just a gun-worshiper trying to push your religion on others. Period.
stone space
Apr 2016
#231
Go on, admit it, you're just a gun-grabber trying to push your religion on others. Period.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#232
Yet, every enforcement of gun control laws involves people carrying guns.
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2016
#85
I'm obfuscating? suicide by gun, pill, rope or razor is exactly the same thing: suicide.
cleanhippie
Apr 2016
#128
Shit. My mistake. I didn't realize you were the arbiter of all that is liberal.
beevul
Apr 2016
#149
When, exactly, were *you* made zampolit here? Discussion at DU is up to the management...
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#178
I *could* call it "slacktivist culture warriors attempt to sling bullshit, and get called on it"
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#182
"You all are like... professionals or something?" CT? Really? That's a reach even for you lot
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#188
If I get drunk and mow down a bunch of kids in my car is the car responsible?
EX500rider
Apr 2016
#113
"A rope is not a gun" Yet if one commits suicide with that rope, you are just as dead
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#183
"Shift change?" More conspiracy theory? One's just as likely as the other...
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#219
"I'm going to be posting...some of her common sense solutions" Are they sensible and reasonable?
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#222
Less people have guns. The ones that do have guns have more of them. Multiple gun murders (especiall
MillennialDem
Apr 2016
#41
I think the true thing people are saying is that it's not the number of guns, but the gun ownership
MillennialDem
Apr 2016
#43
Your OP title is the precise contention that has been Hammerated, prima facie. nt
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#84
Probably few. And few by knife. And few by beating. And few by club. And few by...
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#92
I just don't see the Japanese killing 300,000 fellow citizens with machetes, as in Rwanda.
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#101
Because the US *non-gun* murder rate is higher than Australia's entire murder rate, guns included
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#179
Do I consider the US being below the worldwide avg and median for murder good? yes.
EX500rider
Apr 2016
#249
Except we don't have 30k gun murders..under 9,000 in a country of over 300 million
EX500rider
May 2016
#258
"And is that homicide by gun?" Who cares? What difference does the method make to the victims...
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#247
From a country that just ordered new submarines from us, to deliver death from a distance.
jtuck004
Apr 2016
#12
Sous-marins français sont beaucoup mieux que les sous-marins américains n/t
Violet_Crumble
Apr 2016
#169
The number of individuals and households owning guns (at least per capita/percent) has been shrinkin
MillennialDem
Apr 2016
#44
This may not be true, as some states require citizens to register themselves...
Eleanors38
Apr 2016
#88
From November 2015: "Gun Ownership in (Massachusetts) Increases 66% since 2010"
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#185
Not only that, how many new FOID cards issued in Illinois in the last few years?
beevul
Apr 2016
#195
It's very important to their faith based POV, that Illinois be seen as an anomaly
DonP
Apr 2016
#213
I don't think we will. Things may change, they may not, but this is not Australia. n
jmg257
Apr 2016
#160
Yep. Can't underestimate the number of folks who feel safer with guns then they do without.
jmg257
Apr 2016
#168
"USA exporting Terror since 1960!" Not with *those* guns, it isn't.
friendly_iconoclast
Apr 2016
#220
Well of course it works, the nation decided to destroy the majority of their guns!
Rex
Apr 2016
#233
"(W)ash your hands...There is blood on them." Got your rhetoric from Pamela Geller, did you?
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#306
The end of it *does* say "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#338
I'm sure you feel better after spouting that, but your logic is still faulty
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#340
I see you're sticking with the demagoguery schtick, and adding misrepresentation (or ignorance)
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#342
Fuck your Pamela Gellerish theory of collective guilt- same tune, different lyrics
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#290
Just as those who drink responsible have the blood of DUI victims on *their* hands, eh?
pablo_marmol
May 2016
#317
Uh, yes- you've blamed the >99% of gun owners that have never shot anyone and never will
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#330
*That* one should consider forming a duo with Pamela Geller, and releasing a single titled:
friendly_iconoclast
May 2016
#291
Blood which stains the hands may originate from many sources, not just guns...
Marengo
May 2016
#335
I disagree. We need to repeal restrictive gun laws, and continue making progress.
Kang Colby
May 2016
#268
Demand creates it's own supply. The Controllers haven't figured this out.......
pablo_marmol
May 2016
#318