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aint_no_life_nowhere

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43. Without question
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:34 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Thu Jun 7, 2012, 04:57 PM - Edit history (3)

No one in their right mind is denying it. The Russians BY FAR carried the biggest load in defeating the Nazis. But the fact remains that due to their destruction of bridges, roads, communications lines, supply lines, trains, kidnappings, and hit-and-run attacks, it is universally acknowledged that the Resistance delayed arrival of the Das Reich SS Panzer Division at the D-Day front for two weeks, having a significant impact. The Das Reich was one of the fiercest the Germans had. By the way, did you ever hear or read about the two squadrons of Free French fighter pilots who were integrated into the Russian Air Force through an agreement between DeGaulle and Stalin? Four of the pilots were awarded the highest military honors (like the Congressional Medal of Honor), Hero Of The Soviet Union. They were called the Normandie-Niemen. One of their squadron leaders, Marcel Albert was KIA when he received his medal, after becoming a quadruple air ace, shooting down 21 German planes. Every Russian school kid knows the story.

The Resistance wasn't a professional army. They weren't terribly well equipped for the most part (small arms and machine guns). They had lost at least four of their top leaders at the hands of Klaus Barbi of the Gestapo, who tortured and murdered three of them including the leader of the Resistance, Jean Moulin (the latter died after horrible torture, without giving up any names) and Barbi sent the forth to die in Dachau. The Resistance had suffered terrible losses, such as at the Plateau des Glieres where with guns and supplies dropped in by the British they tried to confront the Germans in an uprising (taking more than 5,000 German soldiers with them). In the Battle of the Vercors, a Resistance army of nearly 8,000 men was surrounded by the Germans and killed to the last man. Their best bet was hit-and-run and general sabotage of communications and infrastructure at which they had become expert at the time of D-Day. Dwight Eisenhower wrote:

"Throughout France the Resistance had been of inestimable value in the campaign. Without their great assistance the liberation of France would have consumed a much longer time and meant greater losses to ourselves."

Sigh... Fix The Stupid Jun 2012 #1
Yup Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #3
Pretty much, we did. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #8
:/ nt sudopod Jun 2012 #17
You honestly believe that? Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #20
Wow, you ARE from California, aren't you?? Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #29
WW2 was not won by just Americans Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #45
Not really, no Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #46
Here is the breakdown of the casualties: deaniac21 Jun 2012 #4
Would you care to post the casualties of Britain cwydro Jun 2012 #22
We were only discussing Normandy. My father flew B-29s in the CBI theater deaniac21 Jun 2012 #32
It was an American invasion, led by Americans Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #7
No, it was an ALLIED invasion cwydro Jun 2012 #24
No, it was an American invasion. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #27
Wrong again. Really, try reading some history books, not the history channel. truebrit71 Jun 2012 #35
Give up on the guy truebrit... cwydro Jun 2012 #38
More British and Commonwealth troops landed in Normandy that day than Americans. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #47
Do not forget the "Resistance"... slor Jun 2012 #12
The Resistance effort has been magnified over time. In actuality they did little. deaniac21 Jun 2012 #33
Bullshit. But thanks for playing. truebrit71 Jun 2012 #36
Did they? I think you need to read some history. But that IS how the story has been told sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #37
Arrival of the 2nd SS Panzer division ' Das Reich' was delayed by 15 days by the Resistance aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #41
At Stalingrad the Soviets were killing 40 Germans a minute.... deaniac21 Jun 2012 #42
Without question aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #43
No. 3 Unit of the No. 10 Commando - German Jews who landed at Sword Beach aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #40
My cousin was in the 29th. Javaman Jun 2012 #2
Wow..there really are no words for just how wrong this post is... truebrit71 Jun 2012 #5
So find some , and tell us why it is wrong. n/t oneshooter Jun 2012 #9
Technically, it's the invasion of France Auggie Jun 2012 #10
Technically, there were two Allied invasions of France. oneshooter Jun 2012 #13
And they were ...? Auggie Jun 2012 #14
The first was the Normandy Invasion. oneshooter Jun 2012 #15
Many thanks. I'd never heard of Dragoon. Auggie Jun 2012 #44
Go read some history. nt cwydro Jun 2012 #25
What part of my post is incorrect? oneshooter Jun 2012 #34
I intended to respond to the OP again. cwydro Jun 2012 #39
Yep. At least it didn't claim the war began in 1941 or something. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #16
Thanks cwydro Jun 2012 #23
Yup. And my neighbors are probably trying to figure MineralMan Jun 2012 #6
I used to know a girl who was born on 6/6/66 Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #11
My dad and uncle were both involved in WW2 SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #18
My two Canadian uncles would disagree about the "American" invasion. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #19
It wasn't an invasion OF American forces in Europe. cwydro Jun 2012 #21
90% of the European war was fought on the eastern front Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #26
Normandy was on the Eastern Front in Russia???? Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #28
Huh? Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #30
One of the most amazing stats I have ever read regarding the eastern front was... Javaman Jun 2012 #31
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