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If there was evidence someone killed him, the prosecution should present it Press Virginia Jun 2016 #1
At minimum, someone was quite negligent. Hoyt Jun 2016 #3
Then the prosecutor should produce that evidence Press Virginia Jun 2016 #4
Callous people don't care about Gray. Hoyt Jun 2016 #7
The heroine dealer with a history of injuring himself to sue the PD? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #11
links to claims on self-injury ? pkdu Jun 2016 #101
Link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #103
... SidDithers Jun 2016 #155
Basketball diaries? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #156
Heroine dealer? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2016 #175
yeah it shows rockfordfile Jun 2016 #179
How about rule of law and due process? TipTok Jul 2016 #189
Or the prosecutor should have charged them with negligence. Akicita Jun 2016 #91
The guy,who was just acquitted, was charged with negligence and official misconduct Press Virginia Jun 2016 #92
Then I guess the prosecution didn't have much for evidence at all. Akicita Jun 2016 #123
That does not follow, unfortunately. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #126
Then I will rephrase. Apparently the prosecutors didn't have enough evidence to convict, even for Akicita Jun 2016 #127
That's true in one sense and may or may not be true in another. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #129
That'sthe judge they had to convince. He is AA and a former civil rights attorney with a good record Akicita Jun 2016 #131
I think that doesn't really matter rockfordfile Jun 2016 #180
In our justice system, every defendant is supposed to be given the benefit of the doubt. Akicita Jul 2016 #187
A bit on the judge... TipTok Jul 2016 #190
That's probably why the City of Baltimore lapucelle Jun 2016 #9
Purely political. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #12
Yeah that tragic broken neck thing sure is a silent killer... NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #16
He had a history of self injury while in custody. The evidence doesn't support Press Virginia Jun 2016 #18
The only thing the last acquittal was proof of is we have an Injustice System. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #21
It proves they could not prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #30
The cop who knelt on his neck while arresting him probably did the tblue37 Jun 2016 #36
And the other 4? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #38
Didn't strap him in, didn't render aid. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #42
And was acquitted because the evidence didn't support the charges Press Virginia Jun 2016 #54
The ME testified the injury happened between Press Virginia Jun 2016 #60
The fatal damage occurred in the van, but the severe neck injury occurred while he was on the ground tblue37 Jun 2016 #102
That wasn't her testimony Press Virginia Jun 2016 #110
Whose? (I just grabbed the URLs and located the relevant sections). Since I'm severely tblue37 Jun 2016 #111
The Medical Examiner Press Virginia Jun 2016 #113
C'mon. We don't want to hear about actual testimony. Our conjecture fits our agenda better and is Akicita Jun 2016 #125
I totally agree. eom ReRe Jun 2016 #100
Would throwning the (I believe) black driver of the police van into jack_krass Jun 2016 #77
That's what all this is about. Feeling better. Guilt or innocence is irrelevant. We need a Akicita Jun 2016 #124
I'd pretend that to be the case as well. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #159
Only if you set aside everything that has happened to this point... TipTok Jul 2016 #191
Other than right wing websites, do you have a source for your allegations? Hoyt Jun 2016 #22
. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #26
Yet that link says nothing about the self injury, nice try. Rex Jun 2016 #31
Not much proof there. But Fox News was quick to pick up Rector's story. Hoyt Jun 2016 #37
Its good enough for the poster Spacedog1973 Jun 2016 #106
Dear Virginia, saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #28
There was no criminal act Press Virginia Jun 2016 #61
Apparently the PD also has a history of rough rides passiveporcupine Jun 2016 #45
The coroner ruled his death a homicide Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #98
That doesn't mean it was a crime, much less a provable crime mythology Jul 2016 #197
Link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #104
That's not what happened. lapucelle Jun 2016 #27
It's bitter sarcasm. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #46
Gray's legs were dragging as he was taken to the van. Probably the damage was done tblue37 Jun 2016 #32
There was no evidence of a rough ride. And the van driver faced the most serious charges Press Virginia Jun 2016 #39
Going Way Out Of Your Way billhicks76 Jun 2016 #50
The guy who drove the van was just acquiited. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #53
Press Virginia didn't find them innocent. The judge did. I suppose the AA judge must be an uncle Tom Akicita Jun 2016 #70
Excellent summation of the facts. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #63
Except the strapping in policy was brand new and the evidence showed that these cops had not yet Akicita Jun 2016 #72
He should have been transported in am ambulance. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #74
Maybe so. Akicita Jun 2016 #79
You Were Here First billhicks76 Jun 2016 #51
The guy who drove the van, when the injuries occurred, was just acquiited Press Virginia Jun 2016 #52
So What billhicks76 Jun 2016 #97
So what exactly are you advocating for? TipTok Jul 2016 #192
You Can Excuse Anything billhicks76 Jul 2016 #200
It's easy to whine about a problem... TipTok Jul 2016 #201
Whine? billhicks76 Jul 2016 #202
Either way... TipTok Jul 2016 #203
The Straw That Broke The Camels Back billhicks76 Jul 2016 #204
So... TipTok Jul 2016 #205
2 More Black Men Murdered By Cops billhicks76 Jul 2016 #206
Not my branch (career field) TipTok Jul 2016 #207
I'm Friends With Many Cops billhicks76 Jul 2016 #208
I'm a glutton for punishment so I'll ask again.... TipTok Jul 2016 #209
I think the poster simply believes Stephen King's statement to be true etherealtruth Jun 2016 #128
Why are you even at this site? Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2016 #55
Why do you hate facts? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #56
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #57
People who don't care about drug dealers or people who point out Press Virginia Jun 2016 #58
Is Freddie Gray dead? rockfordfile Jun 2016 #182
not evidence of a crime Press Virginia Jun 2016 #183
That poster often takes the contrarian right-wing view in threads here YoungDemCA Jun 2016 #93
Id love to see one of them Press Virginia Jun 2016 #94
Here ya go YoungDemCA Jun 2016 #95
It's RW view to point out stripping people of their rights is wrong? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #96
you can tell rockfordfile Jun 2016 #181
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141500785 Scruffy Rumbler Jun 2016 #59
Wow, are you gullible IMO! nt Logical Jun 2016 #65
Denial of reality won't make things the way you wish they were Press Virginia Jun 2016 #69
Your lack of knowledge how the judges protect cops is amusing. Nt Logical Jun 2016 #71
not even the prosecutors are making that claim. The judge is a former civil rights attorney Press Virginia Jun 2016 #82
Lol, so now you think prosecutors want cops convicted??? LOLOLOLOL Logical Jun 2016 #83
now Mosby is in on it? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #84
Convicted cops piss off cops and prosecutors need cops to convict.... Logical Jun 2016 #87
Hahahaha! So Mosby, who basically staked her career to this case, wants the cops to get off Press Virginia Jun 2016 #88
Totally agree. I always suspected Mosby was a double agent. No justice, no peace indeed. Akicita Jun 2016 #130
I agree that some prosecutors are like that. rockfordfile Jun 2016 #184
Really? This guy? TipTok Jul 2016 #194
sad SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #75
So, explain his death to us! I can't wait! Nt Logical Jun 2016 #89
The ME couldn't explain it. He likely did it himself Press Virginia Jun 2016 #90
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author auntpurl Jun 2016 #108
The ME claimed he stood up without proof uponit7771 Jun 2016 #105
The ME based her "homicide" ruling on gray being given a "rough ride" Press Virginia Jun 2016 #109
Like The Cop Who Crushed Freddie's Neck With His Knee? billhicks76 Jun 2016 #140
The Medical Examiner testified that his injury occurred in the van not during the arrest Press Virginia Jun 2016 #141
You Sure Know A Lot About This Case billhicks76 Jun 2016 #151
Everything I've cited was reported in the Baltimore Sun, including Press Virginia Jun 2016 #152
Prosecutors are afraid of endagering their relationship with the police. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #114
Mosby is having her people throw the cases? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #115
The results speak for themselves. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #116
The results aren't evidence of prosecutors throwing the case Press Virginia Jun 2016 #117
There was evidence of sabotage. Maybe one of her prosecutors wants her job. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #120
A clerical error isn't sabotage Press Virginia Jun 2016 #121
Lol That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #122
Considering how important the case was locally and nationally... That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #170
Right. The authorities could never make a mistake in a case unless it was on purpose to throw the Akicita Jun 2016 #167
Considering how important the case was locally and nationally... That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #188
Agree with your first two points. I'm not devoted to any thugs. I just think only the guilty should Akicita Jul 2016 #198
Right on. It's now obvious that Mosby was in on it from the beginning. She probably planned Akicita Jun 2016 #132
It's always disapointing to see slavish devotion to murderers that wear uniforms. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #164
No slavish devotion to murderous cops here. They can burn in Hell. Akicita Jun 2016 #165
The cops are victims of lynch mob justice???? That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #169
Sometimes. Many people get so invested in a guilty verdict based on bad initial information that Akicita Jun 2016 #176
(warning graphic) The correct answer is: "No the police are not victims of lynch mob justice" That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #185
I am in total agreement that police often face no consequences for their actions. Where did I say Akicita Jul 2016 #186
Name some cases where we are in agreement. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #195
You're right. Every conviction ever made in the history of our country should be overturned unless Akicita Jun 2016 #166
"What a nut." That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #172
She took a calculated risk... TipTok Jul 2016 #193
If nothing else, the prosecutor definitely overcharged in this case. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #174
A lot of people, here, don't care about actual evidence Press Virginia Jun 2016 #178
A sickeningly sad commentary on our society etherealtruth Jun 2016 #2
What's sad is celebrities whose opinions Press Virginia Jun 2016 #6
What is sad is people defending the cultural pheneomenon where .... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #14
He had a history of self injury in custody, but it's possible his injuries are Press Virginia Jun 2016 #17
Surely you jest .... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #24
Unless you sat through the trial and heard the evidence Press Virginia Jun 2016 #25
Hahahaha .... and we have no problem with the abuse of AA members of our society .... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #29
When the evidence supports the charges, officers are convicted Press Virginia Jun 2016 #35
i will ask one more time etherealtruth Jun 2016 #43
Systematic? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #112
I think many people may be going back to the Jim Crow days where the conjecture of the lynch mob is Akicita Jun 2016 #168
BS. Socal31 Jun 2016 #73
Maybe in you world of make believe Press Virginia Jun 2016 #78
Which part is fantasy? Socal31 Jun 2016 #80
All of it Press Virginia Jun 2016 #85
If that makes you feel better. Socal31 Jun 2016 #86
He was also lead-poisoned. Quayblue Jun 2016 #107
Yes, that is sad. What is also sad is the cultural phenomenon where when an unarmed black person is Akicita Jun 2016 #134
Plesase cite where the police have been convicted by activists ...? etherealtruth Jun 2016 #135
The burned and looted business of Ferguson and Baltimore provide ample evidence of a quick verdict Akicita Jun 2016 #137
... and their actions caused convictions? etherealtruth Jun 2016 #138
No poor innocent police officer was convicted. But their lives were ruined. How do you think the Akicita Jun 2016 #139
I really am astounded that i am reading this here etherealtruth Jun 2016 #142
So burning and looting your neighbors' homes and businesses because you are upset about something is Akicita Jun 2016 #144
I have a question for you. KMOD Jun 2016 #145
If I remember right, and my memory is a bit fuzzy, but the cop told Brown to get out of the middle Akicita Jun 2016 #146
Let's start with this KMOD Jun 2016 #147
Perfectly understandable for Brown to distrust or fear the Ferguson cop. Akicita Jun 2016 #148
That's my whole point. KMOD Jun 2016 #149
Completely agree. My point is that in any of the examples you cite, if any of those guys attacked a Akicita Jun 2016 #150
The jaywalking may have been the initil reason for the interaction... TipTok Jul 2016 #196
My point is, KMOD Jul 2016 #199
Not at all reluctant to answer your question .... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #154
We have a great need to clean up the police departments in this country. Requiring they wear body Akicita Jun 2016 #157
I don't encourage or support it .... but ..... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #158
You might be right. I just don't understand and oppose victimizing your own neighbors to get Akicita Jun 2016 #160
it is disconcerting .. however, I think there is much more risk .... etherealtruth Jun 2016 #161
I don't understand that either. I guess it's because they can. Akicita Jun 2016 #162
That's BullSh*t. If Lindsey Lohan says this cop is guilty than I believe her. Akicita Jun 2016 #133
I think the main problem is with the prosecution. lapucelle Jun 2016 #5
A lot of the charges didn't make sense Press Virginia Jun 2016 #10
That's a pretty common prosecutorial strategy. lapucelle Jun 2016 #15
Not according to a lot of lawyers. Mosby overcharged, charges contradicted each other Press Virginia Jun 2016 #20
Yep. Rex Jun 2016 #8
Authoritarians will never convict a police officer. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #13
I think this judge is different lapucelle Jun 2016 #19
The problem is a judge still tends to defer to law enforcement. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #23
I think that in a high profile case like this lapucelle Jun 2016 #33
I agree Nutmeg, thank you. saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #34
The first case was a jury trial. former9thward Jun 2016 #41
That goes back to my first point. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #44
Reports say it wasn't one juror SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2016 #48
Nailed it. Duppers Jun 2016 #118
K&R Godhumor saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #40
Bernie is right that the whole system needs to be reexamined. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #47
K&R... spanone Jun 2016 #49
The jury got it wrong again. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #62
Ummmm...... you haven't been following this case very closely, have you? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #64
Guess not because it upsets me. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #66
Yeah screw facts and information, let's just get some cops jack_krass Jun 2016 #81
The biggest fact is that a young man is dead, KMOD Jun 2016 #143
What jury? philosslayer Jun 2016 #67
When I saw on the news the accused were acquitted I thought there had been a jury trial. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #136
Damn, when I get to my production company's office in LA, this is a man I want to spend time Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #68
Well an author had his say NobodyHere Jun 2016 #76
? Duppers Jun 2016 #119
Based on what? His extensive time in the court room listening to the evidence? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #153
I respect Stephen King, but I am waiting for Lindsey Lohan's opinion to make up my mind. Akicita Jun 2016 #163
Cute pinboy3niner Jun 2016 #171
This isn't a political case. It is a criminal case. Lindsey has much more real life experience Akicita Jun 2016 #177
I like Stephen King, but I don't look to him for social commentary. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #173
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