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In reply to the discussion: Can we craft a stronger economic justice message WITHOUT throwing anyone under the bus? [View all]Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)60. We're going in circles
If you're willing to aide the Republicans nationally just to make a point on a very local level that is entirely up to you. I'm not here to critique your personal priorities.
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Can we craft a stronger economic justice message WITHOUT throwing anyone under the bus? [View all]
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
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You are right, of course, and thanks for the truth, but that poster won't listen.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#7
If your purpose on this planet is to breath life into the right's favorite Nixon era strawmen
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#11
There's no way to "cleave away" from the left and still be different from the right.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#18
We don't even have an opportunity to tailor our message in that way
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#16
And every ''center-left" party in Europe is in long-term and irreversible decline.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#24
There's no one to Corbyn's right who'd have Labour in a stronger place in the polls.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#36
Any Labour leader holding May firmly to account on Brexit would poll stronger
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#48
Long term and irreversible? Show us your crystal ball and we might believe that.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#39
No.Center Left has control of parliaments in France & Italy, part of government in Belgium & Germany
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#44
Hollande's party is way behind in the polls and has no chance of recovering before the next election
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#45
After just winning an election in France. You can't claim what you wrote based on
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#46
Here is the polling in the run-up to the German election, which will happen this year:
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#50
I think I have proven you wrong on all of that. But here is the bigger joke. What is the far left
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#59
LBJ saw the southern strategy coming and stood on the right side of justice anyway
loyalsister
Dec 2016
#28
We don't have an opportunity to distance ourselves or demonize them
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#34
No, the topic is, "Are protests now counterproductive?" The GOP seems to have a strategy
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#40
The original response I replied to was a photo demonizing a specific protester
loyalsister
Dec 2016
#47
Whether you choose to acknowledge this or not those types of images are a problem
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#49
There is no progressive cause that is well served by helping elect Republicans
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#54
Trump owns everyone on the right, most of whom are far scarier than one harmless faculty advisor.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#12
You're right, we can't gain votes doing that. We have no control of the narrative.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#20
Yep. And I never expected that to be advocated by a group numbering more than 1 or 2 here. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#41