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In reply to the discussion: Hillary has the right and almost an obligation to say Trump didn't win. [View all]Tarheel_Dem
(31,258 posts)8. We just disagree.
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Hillary has the right and almost an obligation to say Trump didn't win. [View all]
gulliver
Jan 2017
OP
"Who else has the moral authority"? You just finished saying her credibility was all undermined.
Hekate
Jan 2017
#115
She's not on record saying she'll accept Russian interference. The acceptance was on condition that
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#31
Relative to facts that aren't in dispute regarding Russia and voter suppression we don't know that..
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#17
Congress isn't the last word on Benedict Donald being in office, the registrar is on the 19th
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#26
Yes there is, were promised free and fair elections and this wasn't one by far
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#44
Yes there is, it can be sued for just like everything else in this country. There's no remedy
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#77
hacking of state and local electoral boards by Russia. The extent of effect is irrelevant that they
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#91
Abridging the right to vote is never legal no matter what the state laws are and the hacks themselve
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#98
What happened to the truth? Hillary isn't going to say it because it is factually false.
BzaDem
Jan 2017
#3
By "pre-election" "vote count manipulation", do you mean "convincing people to vote for a candidate"
BzaDem
Jan 2017
#15
What happened to free and fair elections? That didn't happen either and that at the least sides with
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#18
Really?!!! Wanna OP this question?! ... see what you get. Facts not in dispute: Comey, Voter suppres
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#34
I fully acknowledge that all three happened, and that they were likely decisive.
BzaDem
Jan 2017
#37
Good, that's enough for a claim that this was NOT a free and fair election... period
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#38
If Comey and Putin make it so the election was not a free and fair one, what about Fox News?
BzaDem
Jan 2017
#41
The first amendment applies to Comey's statements and Russia's leaks (but not the hacking).
BzaDem
Jan 2017
#55
They sure don't...Comey was speaking as an agent of the fbi not a regular citizen
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#59
Irrelevant, his statement of fact as an agent of the FBI isn't covered by the 1st amendment where
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#68
This is false on its face, consent of the governed is predicated off of free and fair elections
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#86
Actually, the statement that there is no basis in the Constitution for individuals to challenge
onenote
Jan 2017
#111
Because she's a woman of integrity? It's the media's job to delegitimize this Russian asset, aka...
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2017
#6
Its not the medias job to formally request a re-vote without Russian access to state and local ...
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#20
There's no integrity twisting the facts about Russia interfering with our election. That's enough fo
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#24
There's no twisting Russia interfered with our election on behalf of McPootyPoot, that's enough for
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#22
I've read right here, by people much smarter than myself, that our Constitution makes no provision..
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2017
#27
The fix for the break doesn't have to be outlined in the constitution. That's a distraction, the ..
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#28
red herring, the ec vote is based off state level votes and state level electoral boards were hacke
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#50
Then the suite can be at the state level where it holds even more water under the 15th at....
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#71
False bar, their interference is bad enough but on the side of one candidate is already proven
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#48
This is false on its face, did you read the report about Russia hacking state and local electoral
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#74
Do you have uncontrovertable evidence that it changed the election results?
loyalsister
Jan 2017
#85
False bar, they interfered period ... that's not " consent of the governed " the extent of the ...
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#88
A national election is not a pee wee football league game, label what you'd like this has way more
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#95
For free and fair elections being labeled acting like a child seems small pence. I don't think those
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#102
I can't keep up with your assertions about the Constitution. Would you please cite...
Hekate
Jan 2017
#116
No, we'll never ever let this go... she didn't lose with a free and fair election, there's no need
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#30
Where in the Constitution does it create a legal right to a "free and fair" election?
onenote
Jan 2017
#53
A constitutional right is something that can be taken to court and the registration of McPootyPoot
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#65
Registration of Benedict Donald as president, before then he's a regular citizen of the US
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#70
I don't know where you get the idea that something is going to happen on the 19th
onenote
Jan 2017
#76
Please cite where in the Constitution "free and fair election" by all individual citizens is stated.
Hekate
Jan 2017
#117
We can also take him to the USSC, this election was also far from free and fair there are too many
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#35
Okay, uponit7771, you and gulliver do that and then report back to us how it went.
Hekate
Jan 2017
#118
I'll just note all of us who didn't want to fight anything after we get stomped in 18 when we
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#120
Peoples opinions don't matter facts do. Fact not in dispute: This was NOT a free and fair election
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#39
"we" don't ... conservatives do... that's thier fault... let them push bullshit and prove it
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#57
+1, fuck names by the Reich Winger traitors who say so what to Russia interference in our elections
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#72
It can be challenged in court under constitutional right to vote should not be abridged ...
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#94
Nah, this I'll never ever let go... Russia hacking our election, voter suppression and Comey is some
uponit7771
Jan 2017
#105
I wonder how many "uncounted" boxes of ballots there are hidden in those red states from
kimbutgar
Jan 2017
#101