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Larkspur

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92. I was proud to bash Joe Lieberman and be part of the team that tossed him out of the Democratic

Sun Jan 15, 2017, 12:20 PM

Jan 2017

Party in 2006.

We don't need Lieberman type Democrats. Lieberman was a corporate whore Democrat most of his senate career.

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The Booker bashing is why we lose. [View all] joshcryer Jan 2017 OP

It's not bashing to point out when Booker sells out his constituents doxyluv13 Jan 2017 #1

Do you have any idea how many of his constituents in NJ are part pnwmom Jan 2017 #3

Uh, I said they are the states biggest industries so of course I know. doxyluv13 Jan 2017 #8

We don't have Big Pharma here in WA but our Senators voted against it, too, pnwmom Jan 2017 #12

Yeah, it's all theater. joshcryer Jan 2017 #47

Could you share a link about adulterated drugs being found by postal inspectors in Seattle? suffragette Jan 2017 #131

Here. I remembered it from when it happened, but this is a current article. pnwmom Jan 2017 #132

The sad fact is our agencies may be influenced azmom Jan 2017 #138

The fact is that Canada does not regulate or check drugs that flow through pnwmom Jan 2017 #145

Is it your contention that the 46 Senators azmom Jan 2017 #148

Yes. I don't think they would have deliberately put people at risk, pnwmom Jan 2017 #150

Canada has problems too. Who you gonna trust? Jim Beard Jan 2017 #158

Well, I would trust that their own drugs are produced safely, to standards. pnwmom Jan 2017 #161

US drugs are made in Haiti. I found 50 gallon drums of Gabapentin Jim Beard Jan 2017 #164

You found an internet site that claimed to send Gabapentin. pnwmom Jan 2017 #171

Yes, it was at one time through "Alibaba Group" that is as big as Walmart. Jim Beard Jan 2017 #172

i've wondered where the ideal balance between supporting principles and fulfilling the wishes of dionysus Jan 2017 #69

You are so correct. BunkieBandit Jan 2017 #71

If you're talking about Booker HarmonyRockets Jan 2017 #141

Senators voting to benefit Businesses located in their home state is what they are sent there to do JI7 Jan 2017 #4

That's the Corporatist (fka Republican) Position doxyluv13 Jan 2017 #9

voters want politicians to keep businesses in their state JI7 Jan 2017 #10

Big Pharam isn't leaving NJ if we get cheaper Rx thru Canada. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #110

People who work at corporations are voters, too. nt pnwmom Jan 2017 #13

Yes, wasn't Bernie a big supporter of the F35? n/t seaglass Jan 2017 #23

And no one should fault Sanders for that. joshcryer Jan 2017 #25

I'm not faulting. It is again with Bernie and some of his supporters - do as I say not as I do. seaglass Jan 2017 #28

It's pure psychological manipulation and we fall for it. joshcryer Jan 2017 #30

And it is not mutually exclusive with the treestar Jan 2017 #192

You know where all his big pharma donations come from? joshcryer Jan 2017 #24

Nope, you do not need big money HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #26

Obama banned big money from the DNC for 8 years. joshcryer Jan 2017 #48

I agree with a lot of what you say on this... Blanks Jan 2017 #49

His explaination is worse, for me. joshcryer Jan 2017 #51

Nod to big pharma? HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #60

Got the votes for that? joshcryer Jan 2017 #61

A vote of conscience? HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #63

I spend about $200 on prescriptions a month and will for the rest of my life HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #58

The Drugs are safe. This is all political bullshit. Nt azmom Jan 2017 #144

Exactly! bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #182

+1,000,000! GreenPartyVoter Jan 2017 #99

Yup, it sure is. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #2

K&R betsuni Jan 2017 #5

No. The Booker vote is why we lose. Sienna86 Jan 2017 #6

the majority of voters in his state voted for Booker JI7 Jan 2017 #11

I know. How do the voters feel about his vote? Sienna86 Jan 2017 #17

I don't know, I wonder how they'd feel if he kept being shit on? joshcryer Jan 2017 #32

What's the point? HarmonyRockets Jan 2017 #143

Well poor people are not going to get treestar Jan 2017 #194

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When Booker introduces his legislation in reconcillation... joshcryer Jan 2017 #33

Would that be before of after pigs fly? bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #183

I'm sorry, but that is a terribly uninformed attitude. yardwork Jan 2017 #54

Are you serious? mcar Jan 2017 #89

the people in NJ want someone who protects their interests treestar Jan 2017 #193

Amen, joshcryer. It's this kind of thing that makes DU suck -- and makes me despair of the Dem Party Hekate Jan 2017 #7

+1 betsuni Jan 2017 #14

I have a friend who lives in PA, he says his district is so gerrymandered that even if the candidate secondwind Jan 2017 #19

That doesn't make any sense. Ace Rothstein Jan 2017 #95

This was the Senate, not the House crazycatlady Jan 2017 #139

+1 treestar Jan 2017 #195

Maybe the problem is also a strength. tecelote Jan 2017 #15

+1, its not even purism !!! its always a slanted bash of the, more Russian shit from LPC members !!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #16

If that is Booker's reason for voting against Bernie's bill... chwaliszewski Jan 2017 #18

Or perhaps a better bill Stellar Jan 2017 #22

It weakened the ACA OKNancy Jan 2017 #65

Bullshit melman Jan 2017 #21

The ACA got fucking REPEALED. joshcryer Jan 2017 #27

If it is a bullshit vote HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #38

You can get something out of it. joshcryer Jan 2017 #41

I'm right there with you Josh. The stupid fucking losers are taking us down with them. yardwork Jan 2017 #82

No, a Democrat voting like a Republican is why we lose. Vinca Jan 2017 #29

Tell that to Feingold. joshcryer Jan 2017 #31

If Booker becomes more Bernie and less Manchin, he'll have a good chance of being in play in 2020. Vinca Jan 2017 #35

Like I said, this is why we lose. joshcryer Jan 2017 #36

The point is, it has the appearance that big pharma is more important to Booker than Vinca Jan 2017 #88

He won't be in play in 2020 crazycatlady Jan 2017 #140

We lose because we don't loudly and clearly differentiate ourselves from Republicans BeyondGeography Jan 2017 #34

Booker is a party leader so this is orcrastrated to tear him down a notch or two. joshcryer Jan 2017 #37

People have trust issues with Booker; it's not just about this vote BeyondGeography Jan 2017 #50

This is why this country is fucked. yardwork Jan 2017 #87

Politics 101: You don't pick a losing position when it's avoidable. randome Jan 2017 #39

Losing position in what way? He certainly lost in the eyes of many Dems. Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #42

He's not stupid so I have no doubt he made the political calculations on how to use his losing vote. randome Jan 2017 #44

He knew it was a bad vote, optically. joshcryer Jan 2017 #46

And we may never know what gentlemans agreements were made. joshcryer Jan 2017 #43

Judging ANYONE on the basis of one vote is pointless. Booker is not stupid. randome Jan 2017 #45

I know you are a thoughtful DU'er, therefore I am posting this link re: WYDEN Amendment KittyWampus Jan 2017 #74

Thanks for posting that very important link. nt oasis Jan 2017 #108

excellent article NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #117

It's always more complex than the soundbites we get here. randome Jan 2017 #120

Thank you for this. It's to the point that anything related to Sanders' has to be parsed R B Garr Jan 2017 #124

I agree... this is part of it Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #40

The measure apparently didn't include any safety standards at all. ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #52

The stupid part is that once it's added in it'll still pass. joshcryer Jan 2017 #56

Yup ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #62

huwhaheahahahahahah AllaN01Bear Jan 2017 #53

Wrong. The Booker sell out is why we lose. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #55

Man, I thought we had a rule against Dem bashing. joshcryer Jan 2017 #57

Ok, aren't you "bashing" his critics? JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #66

I posted a thread. There was another Amendment that Booker voted "Yes" on. The Klobucher Amendment KittyWampus Jan 2017 #94

I will look into this further. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #121

Criticism and bashing are not the same thing. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #101

I look back at the Clinton-Sanders war with profound regret. What a waste of energy. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #59

The bashing of Booker is a set-up OKNancy Jan 2017 #64

I just read the thread on Dailykos on this. I didn't know a Wyden Amendment existed. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #73

of course he is. He loves the attention OKNancy Jan 2017 #75

It doesn't take that much research to figure it out either ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #97

Wow, this really brings into focus his divisiveness that has been fostered all R B Garr Jan 2017 #123

People in this very thread are ignoring this information.. JHan Jan 2017 #129

We bitched about all those votes too.. I dont distinguish Booker from the other 13 CentralMass Jan 2017 #67

Just to add a little frosting to this thread OKNancy Jan 2017 #68

If that was Booker, or anyone except St. Bernard sitting pretty at third... kjones Jan 2017 #174

I think Booker is a "Harold Ford Democrat". Trust Buster Jan 2017 #70

Huh? Maybe you expand on that so no one gets the wrong idea. nt oasis Jan 2017 #109

Political opportunist. Has nothing to do with race. Trust Buster Jan 2017 #114

Thom Hartmann on Friday defended Booker saying that Corry probably Akamai Jan 2017 #72

Are the little guys of NJ really so aligned with big pharma? HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #76

they think that drugs are safe, all the time, mopinko Jan 2017 #100

There is no such thing as a safe drug HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #102

. ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #126

If it were just that vote then I'd be fine with him... vi5 Jan 2017 #77

Those two things, Wall Street and charter schools, are a good reason to be weary. demmiblue Jan 2017 #93

Same.... vi5 Jan 2017 #111

Booker was tone deaf to the mood of the party in making that vote. CanonRay Jan 2017 #78

OMG what a stupid inane thing to say! yardwork Jan 2017 #80

Dissent within the party must be encouraged. intheflow Jan 2017 #79

The word 'bashing' gets thrown around like candy on Halloween, it seems. n/t demmiblue Jan 2017 #85

Why was Booker singled out for special negative attention? n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #96

Probably because he's being talked about for 2020. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #107

Yes, that could be why the Intercept singled him out in their piece. pnwmom Jan 2017 #112

I know NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #118

And the only other two I ever saw mentioned were women, pnwmom Jan 2017 #119

Because he took the most money, and has been being floated as possible 2020 contender. intheflow Jan 2017 #136

Booker-type voting is why we lose. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #81

Democrats believing hype originating in the libertarian Intercept pnwmom Jan 2017 #98

"the libertarian intercept" truebluegreen Jan 2017 #137

The Intercept has been pushing this anti-Booker meme. The story has been posted here. pnwmom Jan 2017 #146

Haven't read the Intercept on this issue, truebluegreen Jan 2017 #147

I live in one of the cities, Seattle, where the postal service has discovered pnwmom Jan 2017 #149

OK, I'll check it out and you may change my mind. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #151

If you read the article, you will see that Forbes isn't happy with DT pnwmom Jan 2017 #152

Before reading the article: truebluegreen Jan 2017 #155

Why do you think Big Pharma would cooperate in this plan? pnwmom Jan 2017 #156

"we should be negotiating our own drug prices with producers" truebluegreen Jan 2017 #160

When could we have done that? Here is the OP by Kittywampus pnwmom Jan 2017 #162

When we had the Presidency, truebluegreen Jan 2017 #163

I think they had their hands full trying to get a stimulus bill passed -- remember that? pnwmom Jan 2017 #165

I do remember that. Apparently you don't though, truebluegreen Jan 2017 #167

You don't remember enough. You don't remember that the reason we couldn't pnwmom Jan 2017 #169

BTW, don't you think "negotiating drug prices" truebluegreen Jan 2017 #168

It doesn't matter what I think. It all came down to Joe Lieberman's single vote pnwmom Jan 2017 #170

Nice source melman Jan 2017 #185

Try WHO, CNN, NBC, Consumer Reports, etc. pnwmom Jan 2017 #190

So? melman Jan 2017 #196

So? Feel free to discount that source, although the incident in Seattle DID happen, pnwmom Jan 2017 #197

K & Fking R JHan Jan 2017 #83

That is the problem.. coco22 Jan 2017 #84

Do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good mcar Jan 2017 #86

Exactly my view on the Booker bashing nini Jan 2017 #90

Get rid of Booker b/c of his pharma vote, lose his voice defending John Lewis. baldguy Jan 2017 #91

I was proud to bash Joe Lieberman and be part of the team that tossed him out of the Democratic Larkspur Jan 2017 #92

No, it's not. It is a hopeful sign that we want to win! earthside Jan 2017 #103

We are in a war for our very democracy. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #104

He "voted with his constituents" except the ones who need prescriptions Bucky Jan 2017 #105

Booker should have voted FOR his constituents. immoderate Jan 2017 #106

Booker isn't our guy Horse with no Name Jan 2017 #113

Who's we? pintobean Jan 2017 #115

Even after the bullshit bashing has been debunked!?!? REALLY?!! How about we never give DEM uponit7771 Jan 2017 #116

Russian & GOP trolls are already at work ecstatic Jan 2017 #122

If we had a media worth a spit they would point this out. nt Rex Jan 2017 #125

Problem is SPIT is all they are worth... bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #180

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #127

Booker is a corporate fraud. democratisphere Jan 2017 #128

No we lose because too many Democrats are in the pocket for doc03 Jan 2017 #130

When 20 million people are about to lose health care, it is all the more important Ms. Toad Jan 2017 #133

We lose when Russians collude with Republicans. azmom Jan 2017 #134

No, sellout Republican-Lite quisling DLC/Third Way DINOs is why we lose. backscatter712 Jan 2017 #135

Our nominee will never be pure enough for some. dawg Jan 2017 #142

republicans back their candidates regardless of how bad they are Democrats do not. liberal N proud Jan 2017 #153

No, actually the Tea Party has forced Republicans way, way, way to the right and they keep winning. Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #184

Booker's vote is correct. apcalc Jan 2017 #154

верный bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #181

It's NOT the left eating it's own as much as we have IGNORED the Pubs! We spend all our time napi21 Jan 2017 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #159

It points out a difficulty that goes deeper than bashing. HassleCat Jan 2017 #166

Wait wut? I thought we hated Bernie for repping his constituents on the 2A Arazi Jan 2017 #173

When you vote to the right of Ted Cruz on an issue, you deserve all the criticism you get. jfern Jan 2017 #175

Cory Booker is bad on a whole bunch of issues, and should have lost to Rush Holt. DemocraticWing Jan 2017 #176

I bet you love Putin, too killbotfactory Jan 2017 #177

That post about RT is ridiculous Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #186

Agree, he sold out years ago Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #178

Bookers American Conservative Union rating: 2.67 out of 100. 9th most liberal Renew Deal Jan 2017 #187

All that score measure is how well he aligns with Democratic leadership. DemocraticWing Jan 2017 #189

What do you meant lost? bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #179

Booker is why we would lose. coco22 Jan 2017 #188

Yes we have to quit assuming the worst treestar Jan 2017 #191