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blm

(113,063 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:06 AM Jan 2017

Heads up: One of the best replies ever to the "We suffered through Obama for 8 years" posts. [View all]

It just started as a reply to someone he knows. He is allowing it to be shared, so please do.


Scott Mednick
12 hrs

A person that I (sort of) know on Facebook wrote that: “We suffered for 8 years. Now it’s your turn.”
First: I never wish suffering on anyone. The fact the he, a very strong Trump supporter based his posts, takes that attitude is ultimately very disturbing.
So I wrote back to him and I felt I would share with you all what I said:

I am surprised you would wish suffering upon me because I did not support Trump. That of course is your right, I suppose. I do not wish harm on anyone.
Your statement seems to continue an ‘US v THEM’ mentality. The election is over. It is important to get past campaigning and campaign rhetoric and get
down to what is uniting not dividing and what is best for ALL Americans.
There will never be a President who does everything to everyone’s liking. There are things President Obama (and President Clinton) did that I do not like
and conversely there are things I can point to that the Presidents Bush did that I agree with. So I am not 100% in lock step with the outgoing President
but have supported him and the overall job he did.
And, if you recall, during the Presidential Campaign back in 2008 the campaign was halted because of the "historic crisis in our financial system."
Wall Street bailout negotiations intervened in the election process. The very sobering reality was that there likely could be a Depression and the world
financial markets could collapse. The United States was losing 800,000 jobs a month and was poised to lose at least 10 million jobs the first year once the
new President took office. We were in an economic freefall. So let us recall that ALL of America was suffering terribly at the beginning of Obama’s Presidency.
But I wanted to look back over the last 8 years and ask you a few questions. Since much of the rhetoric before Obama was elected was that he would
impose Sharia Law, Take Away Your Guns, Create Death Panels, Destroy the Economy, Impose Socialism and, since you will agree that NONE of this came to pass,
I was wondering:
Why have you suffered so?
So let me ask:
Gays and Lesbians can now marry and enjoy the benefits they had been deprived. Has this caused your suffering?
When Obama took office the Dow was 6,626. Now it is 19,875. Has this caused your suffering?
We have 82 straight months of private sector job growth - the longest streak in the history of the United States. Has this caused your suffering?
Especially considering where he the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under
President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?
Obama has taken Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%. Has this caused your suffering?
Homelessness among US Veterans has dropped by half. Has this caused your suffering?
Obama shut down the US secret overseas prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
President Obama has created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?
We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?
He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?
Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured - an increase of 20 Million Adults. Has this caused your suffering?
People are now covered for pre-existing conditions. Has this caused your suffering?
Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 form 2002-2008 an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these
insurance premiums have gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?
Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?
Consumer confidence has gone from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama’s tenure. Has this caused your suffering?
He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?
His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?
He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term was 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M. Has this caused your suffering?
The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?
The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars. Has this caused your suffering?
Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts. Has this caused your suffering?
Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?
He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?
He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?
He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?
Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?
Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?
He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research. Has this caused your suffering?
He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?
Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030). Has this caused your suffering?
Prescient Obama repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell. Has this caused your suffering?
He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?
He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?
Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?
High School Graduation rates hit 83% - an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?
Corporate profits are up by 144%. Has this caused your suffering?
He normalized relationships with Cuba. Has this caused your suffering?
Reliance on foreign oil is at a 40 year low. Has this caused your suffering?
US Exports are up 28%. Has this caused your suffering?
He appointed the most diverse cabinet ever. Has this caused your suffering?
He reduced the number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Has this caused your suffering?
Yes, he killed Osama Bin Laden and retrieved all the documents in his possession for analysis. Perhaps THIS caused your suffering?
From an objective standpoint it would appear that the last 8 years have seen some great progress
and we were saved from a financial collapse. Things are not perfect. Things can always be better.
We are on much better footing now than we were in 2008.
I look forward to understanding what caused you to suffer so much under Obama these last 8 years.

(He has not replied as of this writing)

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They voted for tRump so the democrats can suffer hells Jan 2017 #1
I'm wired for sturdy. And I'm patient. And relentless. I'll be fine. blm Jan 2017 #2
Thank you! Lonestarblue Jan 2017 #49
your post is correct bdamomma Jan 2017 #59
I think you're right. They resented that he was intelligent and compassionate while they were not. blm Jan 2017 #64
Great attitude! Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #114
Yup. Spite and hatred motivated many, many of them. Akamai Jan 2017 #23
A lot of that really is true hollowdweller Jan 2017 #31
K&R handmade34 Jan 2017 #3
There is no way a deplorable is going to read all that. LOL TrekLuver Jan 2017 #4
Even trimmed to half it's still awesome. blm Jan 2017 #5
He was black. THIS caused their (mental) suffering. lastlib Jan 2017 #116
More like... tonedevil Jan 2017 #33
Minor revision ET Awful Jan 2017 #85
Much better. /nt tonedevil Jan 2017 #90
Exactly they don't bdamomma Jan 2017 #61
he was black JI7 Jan 2017 #6
Exactly why I dropped it here. blm Jan 2017 #10
Unbelievable, isn't it? Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #80
+1!!! Let them think twice for blurting out their hate! Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #7
I hear you. Every single damn day someone will say something like this. blm Jan 2017 #9
Thanks for posting this Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #8
Excellent, blm.. mahalo! REC Cha Jan 2017 #11
just reposted from someone else... blm Jan 2017 #92
I know what you mean.. thank you! Cha Jan 2017 #117
Excellent Op. sheshe2 Jan 2017 #12
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #13
How can he? You pummeled him to a bloody pulp with facts. Straight up FACTS. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #14
Perhaps he's waiting..... MyOwnPeace Jan 2017 #40
Bwahahahaha!! Cut that out!! AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #88
LOLOLOL blm Jan 2017 #89
Damn, you beat me to it. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #115
Hillary Clinton's Communications Team erpowers Jan 2017 #15
Obama's team, too. But, they really weren't boastful, which one can appreciate, BUT blm Jan 2017 #93
That's amazing. It feels good to be reminded. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #16
Getting the truth out there was difficult with a 'news' media intent on featuring entertainment blm Jan 2017 #66
Bravo IMWITHHERR Jan 2017 #17
this is great - KT2000 Jan 2017 #18
That got a bit tiresome LittleGirl Jan 2017 #19
He Was A Black Guy erpowers Jan 2017 #20
You sure got that right! Wish I could rec your post. nt raccoon Jan 2017 #37
This is precisely right. A well-educated, well spoken, gentleman who happened to be black mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #38
On A Related Note: ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #41
I think Bill forgot one. desi Jan 2017 #71
Or, Maybe I Heard It Wrong ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #74
If Hillary had beaten Obama in 2008 NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #50
They hate..all of us blm Jan 2017 #82
I'm positive you are absolutely correct. Boomerproud Jan 2017 #106
Absolutely true. roamer65 Jan 2017 #107
It will be the rabid RW'ers suffering to justify the idiotic avalanche of faux pas from lambchopp59 Jan 2017 #21
Bravo!!!! Initech Jan 2017 #22
He stayed black the entire time Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #24
And there we have the real reason Bettie Jan 2017 #45
Beautiful! nt chowder66 Jan 2017 #25
Republican voters deserve this: tenorly Jan 2017 #26
Fantastic! K n R n nt... stopwastingmymoney Jan 2017 #27
To the white wing, Obama couldn't be good enough no matter what he did for them. Hoyt Jan 2017 #28
Well, I think the death panels thing might have come true. califootman Jan 2017 #29
Block Grants for Medicaid EQUALS Death Panels. vanlassie Jan 2017 #35
Yep - it's back to junk insurance you buy through your local 'church'. blm Jan 2017 #96
Ya I'll probably have to steal some of that. K&R fleabiscuit Jan 2017 #30
+1000 smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #32
Racism At the heart of it Frogg Jan 2017 #34
The one who wishes suffering on Obama voters is overlooking the fact that Raine Jan 2017 #36
oh yes, they will hurt badly bdamomma Jan 2017 #62
We suffered through 8 years of dumbass underpants Jan 2017 #39
A brilliant response. Vinca Jan 2017 #42
This is a great post malaise Jan 2017 #43
Hahah - the trolls won't. blm Jan 2017 #94
Good point malaise Jan 2017 #97
Great summary! sinkingfeeling Jan 2017 #44
Bookmarked. Well done. n/t Whiskeytide Jan 2017 #46
Most excellent! Nitram Jan 2017 #47
Their suffering was fear. Not the reality marked50 Jan 2017 #48
Their fear was INDUCED by manipulative mind control tactics (aka RW propaganda machine) blm Jan 2017 #95
excellent response NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #51
You put too much shit for him to read. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2017 #52
The Dow Jones figure is wrong. Qutzupalotl Jan 2017 #53
Good reply but too lengthy for my liking tiredtoo Jan 2017 #54
Yes, Scott was being far more gracious in his reply than I would be. blm Jan 2017 #65
Their suffering was they had to endure a "Black Man" occupying the "White House". Fla Dem Jan 2017 #55
I will bookmark your post. bdamomma Jan 2017 #56
I either treestar Jan 2017 #57
OMFG PLEASE TELL ME HE RESPONDED retrowire Jan 2017 #58
Great post! True_Blue Jan 2017 #60
I would love to hear his response. -Steph- Jan 2017 #63
Scott hasn't posted an update yet, so he probably hasn't had a response yet from him. blm Jan 2017 #91
Brilliant... BRMCOne Jan 2017 #67
Obama really did so much more it is almost mind-numbing to put it together. blm Jan 2017 #69
The President of the United States was black for eight years. THAT's what caused his suffering. Iggo Jan 2017 #68
THAT is a certainty. blm Jan 2017 #70
Can I send this to others? padfun Jan 2017 #72
I see the top line now padfun Jan 2017 #73
Yes - it's Scott Mednick. He said it was fine to share. blm Jan 2017 #78
well done keepthemhonestO Jan 2017 #75
he has not replied MythosMaster Jan 2017 #76
Not mine. But the list is impressive and I applaud his approach in replying this way. blm Jan 2017 #81
K and R tnlurker Jan 2017 #77
Scott Mednick said all are welcome to share. For those who wish to edit it down to blm Jan 2017 #79
thank you blm saidsimplesimon Jan 2017 #83
I assumed many of us have been hearing that same hollow whine. blm Jan 2017 #84
bam!!!! heaven05 Jan 2017 #86
That is exactly what I thought when I read it. blm Jan 2017 #87
I think the suffering had to do with the color of the skin Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #98
Most certainly. blm Jan 2017 #99
MY REPLY: LET'S GET THIS STRAIGHT Skittles Jan 2017 #100
LOLOL.. blm Jan 2017 #102
It would be interesting to find out what they meant by suffering. Zing Zing Zingbah Jan 2017 #101
my dear blm, no he wont respond as you shut him down and he knows it. AllaN01Bear Jan 2017 #103
Good - let's keep it real. No backing down to the fascists. blm Jan 2017 #104
Of course he hasn't replied JMCoast Jan 2017 #105
I would have just said "Fuck You!" Ligyron Jan 2017 #108
Here is what pisses me off to the nth degree - Democrats would have been much more Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2017 #109
yep blm Jan 2017 #110
So true. Of course you've got Fox and they have no competition among their viewers. The biggest Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2017 #113
Socratically speaking tavalon Jan 2017 #111
Bra-fucking-o! Nwgirl503 Jan 2017 #112
i'll come back and copy, probably edit it down, & post on fb (when i'm more awake) orleans Jan 2017 #118
Thanks - it really is lengthy list of accomplishments with little note from corpmedia blm Jan 2017 #119
Kick,Kick,Kicked&Recommended! coco22 Jan 2017 #120
Kick yardwork Jan 2017 #121
((yardwork)) blm Jan 2017 #122
Hi! yardwork Jan 2017 #123
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