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eniwetok

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15. and making the Constitution more amendable SHOULD be a Democratic issue.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:49 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:23 PM - Edit history (1)

The Constitution, for all intents and purposes, is unamendable... at least for any real democratic reform... and this is just nuts for a modern nation. What's happened is over the years parties give lip service to the Constitution even was they seek to modify it through other means. One such method is the GOP politicizing the federal judiciary. The Act you speak of also qualifies. If the number of representatives were still at 30k, we'd today have 10500 representatives.

Allowing for more Representatives would water down the antidemocratic nature of the EC but would not eliminate it as a potential antidemocratic influence any more than proposals to add more states. It does not deal with state winner take all laws. Only a true popular vote eliminates ALL problems... that is if all states have a Instant Runoff System. At SOME point Dems need to stand up for democratic principles... where no citizen's vote weighs more than the other, the minority can NEVER rule, and we abolish state suffrage. I'd love one of the chambers in Congress to be based on national party elections so if the Greens get 15% of the national vote, they'd get 15% of the seats. This would end the braindead nature of the political debate in DC... and Dems should welcome this because a multiparty system IS more "democratic". Maybe then so many would be less pissed off at the Greens for exercising the right to run a candidate and for voters to vote Green if that's what their conscience dictated.

And isn't it ridiculous that we are still using this antiquated, racist system, thus we have trump.. brush Feb 2017 #1
The whole electoral system of the US is Third-World-rate. DetlefK Feb 2017 #4
not just tradition... eniwetok Feb 2017 #6
New England states are small and the EC was for them as well as Larkspur Feb 2017 #2
ROTF... did you even read the link? eniwetok Feb 2017 #5
are you denying much of the Constitution was designed to PROTECT slavery? eniwetok Feb 2017 #7
The Constitution was not about protecting slavery Larkspur Feb 2017 #12
of course it's not ALL about protecting slavery.... and I never said that. eniwetok Feb 2017 #16
it's always difficult to imagine how complex systems react to single changes. unblock Feb 2017 #10
Once we think of how PEOPLE are represented... instead of "states"... eniwetok Feb 2017 #11
Oh, there's no question-- BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #3
the EC can not be fixed... eniwetok Feb 2017 #8
why isn't the House "mob rule"????? eniwetok Feb 2017 #9
The point I was trying to make was that BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #13
and making the Constitution more amendable SHOULD be a Democratic issue. eniwetok Feb 2017 #15
Conservative Blogs Locutusofborg Feb 2017 #14
our system destroys any democratic instinct... eniwetok Feb 2017 #17
We were for 10 yrs under the 1st Confederate government and in order to CK_John Feb 2017 #18
Confederate is a loaded term... eniwetok Feb 2017 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #20
it's AA for somebody, that's for sure, and it needs to go. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #21
don't call it affirmative action. Bucky Feb 2017 #22
I use the term.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #23
What you're describing is welfare, not affirmative action Bucky Feb 2017 #26
Answer: the EC existed before the vote of the people... brooklynite Feb 2017 #24
The voice of the People expanded in the Constitution... eniwetok Feb 2017 #25
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