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krkaufman

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110. Many sides

Thu Aug 24, 2017, 04:00 PM

Aug 2017

First, your argument neglects to address the Electoral College. Kinda tough to say a vote for Jill Stein in California is responsible for Trump in the White House.

And the post focusing on Bernie supporters as the sole block responsible for Trump getting into the White House ignores the reality of the vote turnout, however satisfying the crusade might be.

Just one data point to review...

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/12/black-voter-turnout-fell-in-2016-even-as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots/

Or is this drop also laid at Bernie's feet?

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"This site only welcomes people who voted for HRC in the GE." (EDIT: Skinner clarifies his comments) [View all] NurseJackie Aug 2017 OP

I am happy to say that I qualify! get the red out Aug 2017 #1

There are 2 threads on this same subject Alice11111 Aug 2017 #60

GMTA NurseJackie Aug 2017 #143

... lapucelle Aug 2017 #264

Thanks for a second thread, then, NurseJackie. And THANK YOU, Admin! Hortensis Aug 2017 #373

Moi aussi! ProudLib72 Aug 2017 #2

Yes, while I was a strong Bernie supporter in the primary, voting for Hillary was a no-brainer... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #261

We also welcome those who wished they had voted for Hillary onit2day Aug 2017 #358

That would be wise, but that's not the feeling I get from reading the comments of some here... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #363

It's the way I feel and the way of the Democratic Party. Hortensis Aug 2017 #374

That is not what Skinner said...someone posted it yesterday and Nurse did above. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #381

This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #481

K/R! Maven Aug 2017 #3

Well.... HenryWallace Aug 2017 #4

Well, then... okay. Goodbye! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #5

Were you fooled? DownriverDem Aug 2017 #43

Well... seeing that I started this thread, it's a safe bet that I wasn't fooled. :-D NurseJackie Aug 2017 #52

Guess we do like litmus tests zipplewrath Aug 2017 #30

This is a website for Democrats. murielm99 Aug 2017 #44

Nothing zipplewrath Aug 2017 #46

Well, there was only one Democrat running in the GE in 2016... nt ExciteBike66 Aug 2017 #49

Actually there were hundreds zipplewrath Aug 2017 #67

You mean voting for the Democratic presidential candidate? ehrnst Aug 2017 #85

I get it zipplewrath Aug 2017 #113

I think the fact that Trump is the president is the point ismnotwasm Aug 2017 #132

Not sure it is zipplewrath Aug 2017 #299

The thing is, if you are supporting Democratic candidates Control-Z Aug 2017 #349

The "purity tests" that refer to Democratic candidates sticking with the Democratic Platform? ehrnst Aug 2017 #221

Purity would be not willing to vote for the Democrat in the GE. Weekend Warrior Aug 2017 #273

Exactly! mcar Aug 2017 #298

Personally, I question that principle entered into it at all for most. Hortensis Aug 2017 #451

I'm pretty sure that anyone who didn't vote for Hillary is not MineralMan Aug 2017 #58

I actually know zipplewrath Aug 2017 #66

Then you know some very foolish people. MineralMan Aug 2017 #71

And we have our purity test zipplewrath Aug 2017 #76

OK. I have no problem with that, frankly. MineralMan Aug 2017 #86

I'm with you! Mountain Mule Aug 2017 #107

GOTV vote - really? Red Oak Aug 2017 #153

I'm not really concerned with non-Democrats. I get out the vote of Democrats who MineralMan Aug 2017 #170

GOTV since 1960? Ya caint be THAT chronological! 😉 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #370

I can. In 1960, I was a sophomore in high school. MineralMan Aug 2017 #405

Was being complimentary. 🤗 Praise on being committed to our cause. 👍 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #450

If you are not really concerned about non-Democrats... Red Oak Aug 2017 #404

We're in a solidly blue state and we have a dear friend who simply did not vote in CTyankee Aug 2017 #218

Poor guy. That's not what the statement meant of course. Hortensis Aug 2017 #389

Exactly. LakeArenal Aug 2017 #446

+1000. Plus, people NEED a site that is free of malicious disinformation, Hortensis Aug 2017 #382

Rather disingenuous framing. Democrats vote for Democrats. You act as if this is some foreign emulatorloo Aug 2017 #99

The very definition of purity zipplewrath Aug 2017 #108

No that's your dishonest framing. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #114

My reply was prior to your updates zipplewrath Aug 2017 #118

The 2016 election will never die. Nonetheless pretending that criticism of the minority of Sanders emulatorloo Aug 2017 #137

One vote in one election in which their vote gave us Trump(R). I have NO problem with Squinch Aug 2017 #146

If you want to call it purity to be expected to vote Dem WHEN IT FU_KING COUNTED... brush Aug 2017 #165

+1000 FakeNoose Aug 2017 #211

Thank you. Raine1967 Aug 2017 #227

Stop with the purity test crap. If they didn't have enough sense to vote for Hillary... brush Aug 2017 #155

Even after watching first hand what happened by not voting for HRC, you sit here Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #229

Did those people vote for Trump, Jill Stein or skip the President selection? n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2017 #84

Don't know any Trump votin' dems zipplewrath Aug 2017 #103

You know what? Nobody is interested NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #308

I'm interested. chwaliszewski Aug 2017 #364

Anyone who voted for Trump is a POS...but they would not want to come here anyway except to disrupt. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #385

It's not "other opinions" I have an issue with NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #429

I get your point about chwaliszewski Aug 2017 #447

Voting Democrat is sort of the defintion of Democrat. Especially for President. ehrnst Aug 2017 #87

Good question. Voting for the Dem presidential candidate is the no-brainer of no-brainers. brush Aug 2017 #181

Those are the people I am most angry at, actually. They moonscape Aug 2017 #184

They helped put Trump in office. Chemisse Aug 2017 #196

How are they enjoying Donald Trump? RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #281

A river in Eygpt zipplewrath Aug 2017 #284

Putting aside whether the folks you know should be allowed here, I can't understand that decision. D23MIURG23 Aug 2017 #285

Understanding comes from communication zipplewrath Aug 2017 #292

That can't be. What-uh? 😯 n/t sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #369

If you didn't vote for the Democratic candidate for president...you are not a Democrat. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #384

So, say, in the past, you voted for Goldwater? zipplewrath Aug 2017 #459

Hillary Clinton didn't vote for Goldwater. betsuni Aug 2017 #461

16 was a different sort of year...and I have not seen any of the so called progressive (Greens) Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #463

If Donald Trump had been the Democratic candidate Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #342

Democrats would have never voted him in Control-Z Aug 2017 #352

Yeah, but these are strange times Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #355

You are reaching a bit too far. Control-Z Aug 2017 #371

Very far. Hortensis Aug 2017 #410

If? He wasn't, was he? MineralMan Aug 2017 #406

Do you think Skinner is a fool? Phentex Aug 2017 #413

Did I say Skinner is a fool? Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #460

I know 2 people who did that, and we don't really speak any more. One's always been an arrogant pill Hekate Aug 2017 #379

Spot-on. Very well said. Hortensis Aug 2017 #411

Those who did not vote for the Democratic candidate in the general are not Democrats. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #263

It sure wasn't for the Florida Senate seat in 2010. nt RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #55

I don't know what in the hell that means murielm99 Aug 2017 #65

+1000 Hekate Aug 2017 #377

There has been a litmus test for quite some time... it's called the Democratic Platform LanternWaste Aug 2017 #80

Actually, it's not zipplewrath Aug 2017 #122

Correct, every one who is on the left is welcome here. With just a couple of caveats emulatorloo Aug 2017 #160

Sigh...not voting for HIllary is not opposing some portions of the platform, Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #232

But you still have to vote for the Democratic candidate. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #266

Are you sure you're on the correct board for your political views? You are on DEMOCRATIC underground ehrnst Aug 2017 #82

Well I thought I was zipplewrath Aug 2017 #125

Question: Are you the one who voted for every Dem on the ballot save Hillary? brush Aug 2017 #183

No zipplewrath Aug 2017 #296

Here's a quick way to predict your dreaded "purity tests:" ehrnst Aug 2017 #246

IT was our candidate against Raine1967 Aug 2017 #230

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Aug 2017 #248

Welcome to DU! XRubicon Aug 2017 #253

One counterpoint would be that no one is obliged to share who they voted for. D23MIURG23 Aug 2017 #289

Bye! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #38

See ya bettyellen Aug 2017 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Hortensis Aug 2017 #375

Henry Wallace, it is merely an affirmation of our purpose, Hortensis Aug 2017 #376

I'm sure those were 162 quality posts Tarc Aug 2017 #398

So children under 18 and non-US citizens can go to hell IronLionZion Aug 2017 #6

Pretty sure that's was not what is meant by that statement. nt cwydro Aug 2017 #9

LOL! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #11

This was a joke, don't ban me yet. IronLionZion Aug 2017 #14

no, no, no -- hell *dot com*. he just said they can go to another website, that's all. unblock Aug 2017 #15

I'll get me coat.... mwooldri Aug 2017 #23

You won't need a coat where we're sending you IronLionZion Aug 2017 #59

LOL! Maven Aug 2017 #29

In general, are they "Trump enabling?" No. hunter Aug 2017 #35

I don't get why you are pushing this thing so hard. wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #258

So hard! IronLionZion Aug 2017 #346

There ya go! eom sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #372

Some DUers can't vote IronLionZion Aug 2017 #383

Huh? 🤔 sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #397

If a DUer didn't vote IronLionZion Aug 2017 #399

Ai Chihuahua! 🙄 I was replying to post number 258. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #444

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I know IronLionZion Aug 2017 #453

My thought as well - Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #362

Woot! wryter2000 Aug 2017 #7

+++++++++++ HAB911 Aug 2017 #8

Cue the ultra combatant "Whatabouts" in 3... 2... Already here! n/t TygrBright Aug 2017 #10

Is this new? cwydro Aug 2017 #12

YUp, today! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #41

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #13

You didn't vote for Hillary? cwydro Aug 2017 #17

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #22

Then let me personally thank you for helping to elect the idiot racist fuckhead Orrex Aug 2017 #26

Remember the Electoral College krkaufman Aug 2017 #94

Not if that vote legitimizes a bullshit spoiler candidate Orrex Aug 2017 #201

Wow. cwydro Aug 2017 #28

Let me say.. disillusioned73 Aug 2017 #33

Absolutely! She has the right to vote for whomever she wishes. But that is not what this thread is lunamagica Aug 2017 #81

Do you mean that you helped elect Trump? louis c Aug 2017 #21

Let's extend that idea ... LovesPNW Aug 2017 #36

I am only responsible for me. louis c Aug 2017 #54

No, I just dislike the attempted marginalization of Bernie supporters LovesPNW Aug 2017 #63

No one is "marginalizing" Bernie BlueMTexpat Aug 2017 #75

If you didn't vote for Hilary in the General louis c Aug 2017 #77

Yes, I DID vote for Hillary in the GE .. LovesPNW Aug 2017 #123

Well, you have my respect, as a fellow Bernie supporter who also voted for Hillary in the primary... InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #366

You guys are getting splashed with a lot of blame meant for those who didn't vote for our candidate. Hortensis Aug 2017 #454

I couldn't have said it better myself. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2017 #462

The majority of Bernie supporters voted for the Democratic nominee. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #89

Exactly. Some 90%, at least of Bernie's GENUINE primary supporters voted Hill in the general. Hortensis Aug 2017 #449

Who's marginalizing Bernie supporters? mcar Aug 2017 #134

Are you missing the point of this thread on purpose? brush Aug 2017 #192

if you didn't vote for Hillary Skittles Aug 2017 #378

Many sides krkaufman Aug 2017 #110

I think I made the EC argument clear louis c Aug 2017 #131

That is correct. If you are a Democrat...once the general is over you fall in behind the candidate Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #386

I yam of one mind and accord with what you say. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #441

That is it...as I have said before I voted for anti-choice Tim Ryan in Ohio Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #465

I lulzed. Squinch Aug 2017 #148

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Hahaha. narnian60 Aug 2017 #247

Bye, Steiner! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #40

Are you happy now? Serious question, are you happy now? lunamagica Aug 2017 #68

That's exactly how I feel. louis c Aug 2017 #16

Yep. I should be here. nt Blue_true Aug 2017 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author Beringia Aug 2017 #19

Good point.. disillusioned73 Aug 2017 #27

I agree, iamateacher Aug 2017 #62

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It's kinda pointless because Hillary is history leftstreet Aug 2017 #24

They do in-fight. Plenty. But they don't give a platform to spoilers and saboteurs. nt Maven Aug 2017 #34

Ouch. Lol. liquid diamond Aug 2017 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2017 #436

What about people who changed their minds???? This seems like a stupid policy. LAS14 Aug 2017 #25

This is the post for which I was looking. TomSlick Aug 2017 #317

They are welcome, and you know it. This policy is for those whose hostility Hortensis Aug 2017 #455

If you openly announce you voted for someone other than a Democrat...you are Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #388

If Sanders had won the nomination, I would have been happy to vote for him Steven Maurer Aug 2017 #31

I would vote for any Democrat who was the candidate. Some say Hillary was this or that. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #390

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Fuck Colin Kaepernick and Kid Rock! Dr. Strange Aug 2017 #39

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Either your straw-man is burning, or your Freudian slip is showing LanternWaste Aug 2017 #83

I know they both read DU. Dr. Strange Aug 2017 #104

So they voted for Trump? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #391

Kid Rock did. Dr. Strange Aug 2017 #394

Then they don't belong here...They are not Democrats. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #400

Kid Rock reads DU??? cwydro Aug 2017 #412

Mainly the Cooking & Baking Forum. Dr. Strange Aug 2017 #414

Lol! cwydro Aug 2017 #417

:) Dr. Strange Aug 2017 #418

Happy Dance! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #42

NICE! And very appropriate! R B Garr Aug 2017 #47

I'm good with that! CakeGrrl Aug 2017 #50

YAY!!! Thank you Skinner. and thank you Nurse Jackie for this thread! lunamagica Aug 2017 #51

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No Hillary and the DNC videohead5 Aug 2017 #61

There's no penance option? Beartracks Aug 2017 #64

I voted for HRC, but I think this view is short sighted. Vinca Aug 2017 #69

Bullshit! liquid diamond Aug 2017 #172

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They knew what they were liquid diamond Aug 2017 #272

Suit yourself, but it will guarantee a Democratic loss in 2020. Vinca Aug 2017 #293

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Simple solution: Keep your horrendous mistake to yourself. brush Aug 2017 #198

Say I made that horrendous mistake and came here after deciding to vote for Democrats. Vinca Aug 2017 #209

Well, it is what it is. IMO someone who voted for trump can't be that fucking sensitive... brush Aug 2017 #214

I saw the freaking Duck Dynasty wife on CNN earlier today and it sounds like Vinca Aug 2017 #222

Just tell 'em to keep their mouth shut about it then. What's that old saying... brush Aug 2017 #223

agree - and yes I voted for HRC Locrian Aug 2017 #380

I agree with you 100 percent, Vinca. roamer65 Aug 2017 #435

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Divide and rule OBenario4 Aug 2017 #70

No doubt, many naive people will pretend the Democratic party platform is illustrative of your point LanternWaste Aug 2017 #88

Morons who enabled Dump Warpy Aug 2017 #72

And despite that, there will be people in this thread MineralMan Aug 2017 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Aug 2017 #74

When you joined, you agreed to abide by the Terms of Service mcar Aug 2017 #145

Grammar jayschool2013 Aug 2017 #220

Is there any discussion to be had with a #fakepresident cultist? Cary Aug 2017 #78

I don't care for this "only welcomes" phrasiology. John1956PA Aug 2017 #79

There, their, they're. Calm yourself. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2017 #93

I agree angrychair Aug 2017 #90

Self defeating Wibly Aug 2017 #91

This. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #92

"Your base"? Shouldn't that be "Our base?" FSogol Aug 2017 #98

Yep. nt SunSeeker Aug 2017 #115

Good catch! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #119

LOL! sheshe2 Aug 2017 #341

I love it so much! I could watch it for hours... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #415

It's a keeper! :) sheshe2 Aug 2017 #423

Good catch thanks n/t emulatorloo Aug 2017 #179

FSogol....You nailed that one! Excellent observation! skylucy Aug 2017 #241

Where are the grammar police when you need them? N/T lapucelle Aug 2017 #311

Whooosssshh! FSogol Aug 2017 #330

No, it is your Wibly Sep 2017 #492

I think there's some confusion about what "the base" actually means. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #101

We're not accommodating political blackmailers, spoilers, and saboteurs any longer. Maven Aug 2017 #112

Exactly, a new group turns 18 every year and only half the country votes anyway. FSogol Aug 2017 #129

perfectly on point, maven obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #135

Well said, Maven. brer cat Aug 2017 #407

Uhhh... speaking to us from somewhere outside the party, are you? Squinch Aug 2017 #157

I'm Canadian Wibly Sep 2017 #493

BS! Stop ignoring the elephant in the election room. The election was stolen by... brush Aug 2017 #204

Shouldn't that "You" be We"? sheshe2 Aug 2017 #228

This is a board for Democrats and those who promote Democrats leftofcool Aug 2017 #259

It seems very simple... Phentex Aug 2017 #401

YOU NEVER REALLY LOVED SKINNER obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #265

The definition of the base is that treestar Aug 2017 #467

Divide and conquer....we all know the rules on this website, or should. Hulk Aug 2017 #95

Let's break it down. The site is to help elect Democrats, not just... brush Aug 2017 #212

We're on the same page... Hulk Aug 2017 #262

This Bernie sister voted for her. Lunabell Aug 2017 #96

I would not push this exclusionary position dogandturtlemom Aug 2017 #97

Just remember: we could have avoided all of this HAB911 Aug 2017 #100

Hasn't this been the policy more or less forever? GaryCnf Aug 2017 #102

I think so Phentex Aug 2017 #416

Maybe Skinner should just say: This site is for those who voted for the Democratic candidate for OregonBlue Aug 2017 #105

Why just 2016? pat_k Aug 2017 #303

I'm not American. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #106

No one is criticizing the majority of Bernie voters, as we voted for HRC in the general emulatorloo Aug 2017 #120

But simply saying "hey, we don't want you here" is pointless. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #128

I'm sorry did you just 'Brazil-splain' American Democratic Party politics to us? No thanks. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #144

Well, I don't buy into this... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #147

Stay or go, I don't care what you think and I care less for your presumption that it matters. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #152

Ok, then. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #154

I'll think, "if only that Brazilian person had voted in our election illegally?" GIVE ME A BREAK. FreepFryer Aug 2017 #159

You sound exactly like the xenophobic jerks of FreeRepublic. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #164

It's not xenophobia at all - it's not your place to presume to advise US on Democratic politics. Nt FreepFryer Aug 2017 #167

Oh, give me a break. You spent hours talking about other countries... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #173

When we are talking about Brazilian politics I will listen gladly to your unsolicited opinion... FreepFryer Aug 2017 #175

Ok, pal! OBenario4 Aug 2017 #178

Wow, really? Comparing me to the KKK for pointing out that Americans don't need your opinions ? FreepFryer Aug 2017 #180

Honey, I don't who do you think you are... OBenario4 Aug 2017 #182

In ad hominem, you have now called me xenophobic, kkk, 'pal' and 'honey'. FreepFryer Aug 2017 #186

Yep, and I'll call you more things if you insist in your xenophobic remarks. n/t OBenario4 Aug 2017 #190

It's not xenophobic to ask non-citizens to avoid explaining Democratic politics to Americans. FreepFryer Aug 2017 #191

Speak for yourself Beringia Aug 2017 #193

LOL! (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #194

You should not speak for other citizens in telling this poster not to post here. Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #195

I didn't, if you actually read my post. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #200

How is that for closed minded dogandturtlemom Aug 2017 #274

Great point, thanks! And, if you voted for HRC in the GE, welcome to DU! (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #276

Find better "American friends." Sparkly Aug 2017 #322

A Republican DID win wryter2000 Aug 2017 #213

+1. (n/t) FreepFryer Aug 2017 #219

Yes, go home! leftstreet Aug 2017 #161

Why would you mock this excellent, intelligent poster by saying 'Brazil-splain'? Hate-speak. Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #202

'"Mansplaining" is not mocking manhood, it's mocking presumptiveness & privilege. FreepFryer Aug 2017 #205

It is apparent you know nothing about this poster obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #269

Judy is a friend of mine. She has known me much longer than you. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #318

You don't know that poster at all, or you wouldn't want to do this. Judi Lynn Aug 2017 #440

Don't even engage with this dude obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #267

Sadly you've shifted the goalposts. . Of course we will try to convince them. emulatorloo Aug 2017 #151

A vote for Bernie was a vote for trump. Period. Lil Missy Aug 2017 #282

Off-topic comment: moonscape Aug 2017 #216

I voted for HRC you but I can't prove it do I still get to stay elehhhhna Aug 2017 #109

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2017 #111

No brass band, cake, and ice-cream? Oh, it means "This site welcomes ONLY those who...." WinkyDink Aug 2017 #116

K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2017 #117

Thank you Skinner mcar Aug 2017 #121

:-D NurseJackie Aug 2017 #126

K'n'R ucrdem Aug 2017 #124

Nice to see Sen. Bernie Sanders is still welcome at DU!! nt RandiFan1290 Aug 2017 #127

there should be an addendum re: Putin targeting Bernie supporters SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2017 #130

I voted for HRC but want to win elections for Dems Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #133

I have no interest in winning them back ...this is not intervention underground but Democratic Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #392

There were Obama voters who voted for drumpf Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #431

I don't believe that...never have. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #464

Fake news huh? Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #466

Anyone could claim to be an Obama voter. People often lie. The people here in Ohio Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #470

You have a right to an opinion but not to your own facts Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #473

You have no provable facts I can rip holes in the slate article as big as Texas...let's Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #475

Can't agree to give up on facts you find inconvenient to your beliefs Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #478

Right, the word 'survey' means the poll is completely meaningless. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #484

This doesn't even make sense Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #485

I find survey polls unreliable. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #486

I'll believe the people who know how to interpret scientific data Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #487

If you look at the numbers, they don't work. About 7% more votes for Pres. Obama Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #488

Actually exit polls are usually right Bradshaw3 Aug 2017 #489

I can't read through all the pros and cons. But if this site becomes an absolutist either/or erronis Aug 2017 #136

You understand that this is just an online forum and not the actual Democratic Party, right? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #138

Thanks - Like many, I think there's a lot of equating going on. erronis Aug 2017 #149

Sure, what makes it a good philosophy here? nt JCanete Aug 2017 #348

You agreed to the Terms of Service when you joined mcar Aug 2017 #150

Yup - and I voted for HRC. What's your point? erronis Aug 2017 #158

Everybody who is progressive is welcome here. You see a post that insists on lockstep, alert on it emulatorloo Aug 2017 #171

Skinner is talking about General Election voting mcar Aug 2017 #185

The actual choices were as follows: Vote for Hillary, Vote for Trump(R), enable Trump(R). Squinch Aug 2017 #163

Have you noticed those folks have Congress and the presidency? Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #393

What if I just came eligible to vote? California_Republic Aug 2017 #139

I shall not appologize for my Paulson vote Big_K Aug 2017 #140

Brings back so many fun memories, thanks! emulatorloo Aug 2017 #166

It's self-defeating, but whatever. It's his site. nt Gore1FL Aug 2017 #141

How binary. GeorgeGist Aug 2017 #142

It's his site, he can do as he damn well pleases. This is probably a hoax. alfredo Aug 2017 #156

... emulatorloo Aug 2017 #207

I have a hard time getting upset over things that happen on the internet. alfredo Aug 2017 #304

Seems short-sighted. shanny Aug 2017 #162

*facepalms Daxter Aug 2017 #168

Actually, I've made no such assumptions about you. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #174

I voted for HRC drmeow Aug 2017 #176

Agree. GentryDixon Aug 2017 #177

Wow, that is AMAZING AMAZING and AWESOME Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #187

Brilliant! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #225

Exlcusiveness, divisiveness and cliques will RandomAccess Aug 2017 #256

Apparently so... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #257

What a stupid policy! Still In Wisconsin Aug 2017 #188

You are confusing DU and Democratic Party outreach. SharonClark Aug 2017 #357

There's another post in there the OP probably won't like as much melman Aug 2017 #189

Why wouldn't I like it? Besides, this thread isn't about Bernie at all... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #197

AND, don't f***king say you're a Dem on your way out if you didn't. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #199

A-freakin-men! NT Bleacher Creature Aug 2017 #203

As it should be! n/t Greybnk48 Aug 2017 #208

No Right Wingers sanduca Aug 2017 #210

Core principles of this site states the following: mudstump Aug 2017 #215

Are you welcome here? XRubicon Aug 2017 #239

Why don't you run tell Skinner BainsBane Aug 2017 #242

:-D That's a most excellent idea. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #245

Agreed. I don't care if you voted for every D up and down the ballot. stopbush Aug 2017 #217

If a DU Member is not a 'Trump-enabling moron' and voted for our candidate in the election: Raine1967 Aug 2017 #224

And I do feel welcome! tonyt53 Aug 2017 #226

While i fit the bill, it seems ridiculous to make that AllyCat Aug 2017 #231

Did you miss the the title of the website? BainsBane Aug 2017 #233

Good grief AllyCat Aug 2017 #237

What's the difference between a Trump troll and a Stein troll? BainsBane Aug 2017 #243

I am Spartacus XRubicon Aug 2017 #234

Some of the responses here remind me that we need a forum here called Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #235

You're correct. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #238

Really mcar Aug 2017 #251

And in the section on primaries explain how trying to dESTRoY Eliot Rosewater Aug 2017 #252

I am in total and complete enthusiastic agreement mreilly Aug 2017 #236

I voted for Hillary lunatica Aug 2017 #240

If you stayed home during the election... Linc13 Aug 2017 #244

Agree 100%! brokephibroke Aug 2017 #249

Let's face it radical noodle Aug 2017 #250

It's really just that simple, isn't it? All this hemming and hawing, whining, complaining... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #255

It sure is... radical noodle Aug 2017 #286

Maybe there are some guilty consciences. betsuni Aug 2017 #345

You are correct. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #468

I voted for Hillary, no contest RandomAccess Aug 2017 #254

And please do remember most of us Bernie folks marlakay Aug 2017 #260

This OP does nothing of the sort. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #270

"Trump-enabling morons can find some other website" DesertRat Aug 2017 #268

I know, right? That was a great line! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #275

It's perfectly succinct DesertRat Aug 2017 #287

Vladimir must be laughing his ass off at this one pecosbob Aug 2017 #271

How so? What's so amusing? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #279

Umm, what? mcar Aug 2017 #301

Very clear if you ask me....and true! Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #277

:-D NurseJackie Aug 2017 #280

Pleased to say I qualify too! nightwing1240 Aug 2017 #278

If you didn't vote for Hillary, you stood by and let a madman assume control RhodeIslandOne Aug 2017 #283

Personally, I think its a dumb statement. I understand drawing lines so that you can narrow or focus JCanete Aug 2017 #288

I support this site and it's premise. I also support defacto7 Aug 2017 #290

Can someone tell me Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #291

We don't have to radical noodle Aug 2017 #305

In who's opinion? Mr.Bill Aug 2017 #309

I would imagine the same people radical noodle Aug 2017 #334

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Looks like you have it all correct. Goodbye. XRubicon Aug 2017 #297

Bye DarthDem Aug 2017 #300

Oh, how we'll miss you! johnp3907 Aug 2017 #307

Wow, people casually excusing voting for Bernie R B Garr Aug 2017 #314

How is that? torius Aug 2017 #365

If they failed to vote for the Democratic candidate, they don't belong here. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #387

Exactly. There was a destructive strategy promoted R B Garr Aug 2017 #434

And some and we know pretty well who they are ...still at it...with snide comments about Democrats. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #471

If you aren't part of the solution... Sparkly Aug 2017 #323

Agree! samplegirl Aug 2017 #295

Oh, sorry then. OBenario4 Aug 2017 #302

I'm sorry, too. Sparkly Aug 2017 #325

Not sure if that is wise....People have been known tochange their minds.... alittlelark Aug 2017 #306

They can still lurk and learn. Sparkly Aug 2017 #332

I voted for HTC both in the primaries and in the general GetRidOfThem Aug 2017 #310

I think the country is WAY too far gone for the ideal of coddling "like-minded liberals." Sparkly Aug 2017 #327

K&R Progressive dog Aug 2017 #312

I resemble that remark liberal N proud Aug 2017 #313

This is NUTS!!! How can you expand the vote the next time??????????????????????????????????????????? LAS14 Aug 2017 #315

There's more to the real world than this forum. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #321

They won't be reading DU for sure Phentex Aug 2017 #395

Kickety kick Cadfael Aug 2017 #319

Whoa -- you mean this is DEMOCRATIC Underground? Sparkly Aug 2017 #320

The question isn't "HRC GE voters" the question is ideologically blinded people. plimsoll Aug 2017 #324

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This isn't the protocol. johnp3907 Aug 2017 #329

OMG!! Report Skinner to Skinner!! Sparkly Aug 2017 #331

LOL! (Welcome to DU!) NurseJackie Aug 2017 #335

Am I correct in assuming this does not apply to non-US citizens, or ex-cons, or others Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2017 #328

Well, I voted for her all of the way, even in 2008. However, Alice11111 Aug 2017 #333

I am disappointed with this. /nt philly_bob Aug 2017 #336

Why? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #338

Because it limits the spread of DU ideas to only one group. philly_bob Aug 2017 #443

Yes!! shenmue Aug 2017 #337

HRC is the only legitimate candidate that won the Presidential election. democratisphere Aug 2017 #339

Thank You NurseJackie.. Grassy Knoll Aug 2017 #340

I'm just the "messenger"... I didn't say it, I just spotted it and brought it here. NurseJackie Aug 2017 #350

My first vote SteelSmasher Aug 2017 #343

It was exciting Phentex Aug 2017 #421

Good. If you were too much of a holy roller to stop the Klan-endorsed candidate, what use are you? Starry Messenger Aug 2017 #344

I was wondering where all this in-fighting came from. romanic Aug 2017 #347

Infighting? I'm not seeing it. How do you mean? NurseJackie Aug 2017 #351

best line ever: orleans Aug 2017 #353

He shoud have put the link to Discussionist Phentex Aug 2017 #396

OMG! Yes! Perfect! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #403

Voting for HRC in the general was a no brainer for most of us. southerncrone Aug 2017 #354

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I don't see how your callow sarcasm is helpful here. chwaliszewski Aug 2017 #368

sounds good to me! Butterflies Aug 2017 #359

You and me both! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #361

This is exactly what we need fescuerescue Aug 2017 #360

Is this from 'Skinner' Skinner? Thee Skinner? sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #367

As a seen-the-light progressive who was until 2012 registered Libertarian... TommyCelt Aug 2017 #402

Hallelujah! I voted for HRC. electron_blue Aug 2017 #408

Sorry, teens. Find another site. n/t Orsino Aug 2017 #409

... Phentex Aug 2017 #419

He didn't correct his spelling of morans! obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #420

Ha!! :-D NurseJackie Aug 2017 #422

Errr I'm Canadian. I voted NDP. TrogL Aug 2017 #424

A wise man once told me not to deconstruct the letter. ucrdem Aug 2017 #426

Midterms, midterms, midterms! Heartstrings Aug 2017 #425

Couldn't be more clear mcar Aug 2017 #427

Don't the folks that run DU also run Discussionist? vi5 Aug 2017 #428

Benie supporter here, voted for Hillary of course crim son Aug 2017 #430

Is there a time limit on this drmeow Aug 2017 #432

I voted for Ross Perot. Can I still post here? leftstreet Aug 2017 #433

Do you have compunction? sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #438

Well, technically my vote gave the US Clinton leftstreet Aug 2017 #442

Perot was an aberration. sprinkleeninow Aug 2017 #448

United we stand, divided we fall. roamer65 Aug 2017 #437

While I don't give a shit about anyone who voted against Hillary, Flaleftist Aug 2017 #439

People who would vote for her today are welcome, of course. Hortensis Aug 2017 #456

They were Trump supporters anyway you look at it. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #482

Love! ellie Aug 2017 #457

Thank you! NurseJackie Aug 2017 #458

I guess it's a little controversial? BootinUp Aug 2017 #469

"Go figure" indeed! I know exactly what you mean... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #472

K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2017 #474

Thank you again Skinner. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #476

Why not update your OP to include the full statement? Ms. Toad Aug 2017 #477

Great thread Gothmog Aug 2017 #479

It's interesting to see the reactions. I'll never fully understand... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #480

I will never forgive the Greens, Saradon,Jill Stein (personally)...and Nina Turner for the role they Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #483

Neither will I. And you're correct, there is no remorse, because... NurseJackie Aug 2017 #490

They are smug and please with the outcome and continue to attack Democrats and the Party. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #491

That's it Wibly Sep 2017 #494