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demtenjeep

(31,997 posts) Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:06 AM Dec 2017

Biden and Kennedy III now that is a big fucking ticket [View all]

I could get so behind that onen

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Biden and Kennedy III now that is a big fucking ticket [View all] demtenjeep Dec 2017 OP

Midterms first.... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #1

Anybody but gilibraing and And Harris! bagelsforbreakfast Dec 2017 #2

Biden supported this terrible bankruptcy bill while he was in Congress. Sophia4 Dec 2017 #68

YEAH! MORE LEGACY CANDIDATES! Atman Dec 2017 #99

yea sounds bluestarone Dec 2017 #3

Did anyone else see the show? elleng Dec 2017 #4

Yes, I saw it and loved it. Jill is wonderful, too. nt R B Garr Dec 2017 #14

I like that combo too, my dear demtenjeep! CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2017 #5

What is a House candidate that nobody's heard of a good choice? brooklynite Dec 2017 #6

Because (obviously) some have heard of him, elleng Dec 2017 #20

Well, I'd refer you to 1920...an obscure Assistant Secretary of the Navy... First Speaker Dec 2017 #24

That ticket lost ... EffieBlack Dec 2017 #46

for reasons that had nothing to do with young FDR being on the ticket Bucky Dec 2017 #82

Biden has the Anita Hill issue. Anita Hill which was a real case of sexual harrassment JI7 Dec 2017 #7

he cast the NO vote and believed Hill demtenjeep Dec 2017 #8

it was his behavior during the hearings and not calling certain witnesses JI7 Dec 2017 #10

problem is has never apologized for essentially hanging Anita Hill out to dry. More than that still_one Dec 2017 #26

Long gone, but, he certainly has earned the right to run again. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #32

Of course he has every right to run, I just would personally prefer someone else still_one Dec 2017 #36

Understandable... me too. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #37

But Hillarys supposed to go away and shut up EffieBlack Dec 2017 #47

You know it's some double standard nonsense JHan Dec 2017 #51

The fact that people are even seriously discussing a Biden candidacy says it all EffieBlack Dec 2017 #54

++++ some of the same people who complained about hillary being flawed are loving biden.. JHan Dec 2017 #55

They love him BECAUSE hes flawed which they think makes him human and likeable EffieBlack Dec 2017 #57

Yep. It's shallow. JHan Dec 2017 #59

Also "they love him BECAUSE he's flawed" - there's a lot there JHan Dec 2017 #67

And lets not talk about his history on desegregation and busing that he never apologized for EffieBlack Dec 2017 #48

I'll hafta look that one up... was unaware of that history. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #81

Here is some info EffieBlack Dec 2017 #95

Thanks for that... I support your position. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #98

She had witnesses but Biden did not call question everything Dec 2017 #16

Yes elleng Dec 2017 #17

He RAN the committee that failed to give Anita a fair hearing. He didn't call the bullshit then. pnwmom Dec 2017 #27

That's not what the record shows, at all. The confirmation hearings went on for 34 days. ucrdem Dec 2017 #45

Hill made it into the history books DESPITE Bidens efforts, not because of them EffieBlack Dec 2017 #49

Yes, it was l-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-n-n-n-g ... those 34 days. KPN Dec 2017 #53

The first month wasn't about Anita Hill. She was tacked onto the end. pnwmom Dec 2017 #58

34 days? What a crock. He didn't have Anita Hill testify till a month into the hearings. pnwmom Dec 2017 #56

Biden voted against Thomas, arranged for witnesses against him to testify, and they did. ucrdem Dec 2017 #63

Yes he did. He also called the corroborating witnesses -- Wright at least did not volunteer -- ucrdem Dec 2017 #43

Thats revisionist history. Thats not how it happened. EffieBlack Dec 2017 #52

It's what the record shows. It also shows that Biden was unfailingly kind to Hill, ucrdem Dec 2017 #60

I suggest you go back and study the full record, not just a CYA letter written by Biden EffieBlack Dec 2017 #65

Thanks, and likewise. Why you think Biden is at fault here is a mystery. nt ucrdem Dec 2017 #66

"that's not exactly what they put out afterwards." In other words, they dispute pnwmom Dec 2017 #61

They were all called to testify, and Hill did. The rebuttal wasn't pretty and the others didn't. ucrdem Dec 2017 #64

Biden's questioning itself was harsh. And he never should have allowed the ridiculous testimony pnwmom Dec 2017 #69

Yes a lot of people could have done a better job including Ogletree. ucrdem Dec 2017 #71

Biden had complete control of his OWN questioning of her and he questioned her as if pnwmom Dec 2017 #72

Yes I watched them. I'd forgotten the details until I saw the CSPAN ucrdem Dec 2017 #74

I never said he didn't let her testify. I said Biden made her submit her statement in writing, pnwmom Dec 2017 #75

Biden was chairing a confirmation hearing, not a star chamber. ucrdem Dec 2017 #85

The men were squeamish about tainting the Senate chamber with discussions of what Thomas pnwmom Dec 2017 #93

Hill's testimony was compelling and she held up in the rebuttals. ucrdem Dec 2017 #109

Biden himself acknowledged that the testimony he excluded would have "decimated" Thomas. pnwmom Dec 2017 #110

He also said that the corroborating witnesses backed out at the last minute. ucrdem Dec 2017 #113

They say that's not true and so does Anita Hill. And the owner of the video store pnwmom Dec 2017 #114

So he's lying except when he says something you want to hear? ucrdem Dec 2017 #115

Please read the Post article. They interviewed several Democratic representatives who remember pnwmom Dec 2017 #116

Yes they thought it mete to rev up the swiftboat on what occasion exactly? ucrdem Dec 2017 #117

It's swift boating him to respond to the self-serving interview he had recently given to Politico? pnwmom Dec 2017 #118

Yes and they really ought to know better. Ditto in the Franken matter. To borrow a phrase, ucrdem Dec 2017 #119

You think these women shouldn't correct the record when he gives interviews and says things pnwmom Dec 2017 #120

I don't think Democrats should attack Democrats, no, particularly when they don't have a case. ucrdem Dec 2017 #121

Anita was NOT treated kindly and fairly by Biden. His questioning of her was harsh, pnwmom Dec 2017 #122

Now that would be a conversation worth having. R B Garr Dec 2017 #11

Oh for fucks sake....find me someone who is unblemished. n/t Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #33

Thanks nini Dec 2017 #111

Did you mean onen or one? The Wielding Truth Dec 2017 #9

I could totally support that ticket. I've been watching Kennedy this year and he just makes sense. Greywing Dec 2017 #12

Agreed! Watching Biden on MSNBC made me think R B Garr Dec 2017 #13

Yes elleng Dec 2017 #15

I have always wanted Biden in demtenjeep Dec 2017 #107

Biden will be 78 in 2020 IphengeniaBlumgarten Dec 2017 #18

Kennedy would only be 39. R B Garr Dec 2017 #23

Two east coast white guys cancels out the age "balance." n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #70

Some of those standards dont have the same R B Garr Dec 2017 #91

Our next nominee has to have nerves of steel. Biden is not that guy. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #94

He seems to have nerves of steel to me, but agreed R B Garr Dec 2017 #96

He wants to be liked -- that doesn't translate into nerves of steel. His wanting to be liked pnwmom Dec 2017 #97

The days of the old guys and gals ar gone. Where are good new guys?Kennedy might be ok. But dynasty? bobbieinok Dec 2017 #19

Dynasty? nini Dec 2017 #112

White guys, yeah that's the future. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #21

LOL. They don't get it. n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #28

That might be too limiting. Funtatlaguy Dec 2017 #77

People will say he is too old BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #22

Besides, his opponent would be no spring chicken himself. sandensea Dec 2017 #31

The 2017 photo is too attractive. "Fake Photo!" BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #34

He must have just come back from Mar-a-Lago sandensea Dec 2017 #38

I think before 2020, it will be President Pence Funtatlaguy Dec 2017 #79

I think the country is ready for another Kennedy world wide wally Dec 2017 #25

right....shut up.... mentalslavery Dec 2017 #29

I'm not kidding in the least world wide wally Dec 2017 #35

You may have something there. nt Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #30

Not interested in Kennedy III, he is a reefer madness kook. tritsofme Dec 2017 #39

+1000. Kennedy will never get my vote rollin74 Dec 2017 #104

Joe is too old Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2017 #40

My republican dad who follows everything right wing blue cat Dec 2017 #41

They have been circulating that for YEARS. T'aint nothing new. Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #89

I like Joe Biden but his ship has sailed, we need someone doc03 Dec 2017 #42

I agree janterry Dec 2017 #83

Biden issues: Big banks, wrote the crime bill, delisen Dec 2017 #44

No way and meh. Biden doesn't resonate w women. He failed us and it will bite him on the ass. bettyellen Dec 2017 #50

In this new "silence breaker" reality ... Biden wouldn't have a chance SFnomad Dec 2017 #62

Silence Breaker RobinA Dec 2017 #88

The Republicans will do an Al Franken on octoberlib Dec 2017 #73

Too white and too male kydo Dec 2017 #76

Two white men? oberliner Dec 2017 #78

This Female RobinA Dec 2017 #90

You mean you don't care about style points? BannonsLiver Dec 2017 #100

I am a white female I guess I have to admit that at 50+1 I am middle age demtenjeep Dec 2017 #108

K&R stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #80

Biden could mend ties with countries woodsprite Dec 2017 #84

Biden? WhiteTara Dec 2017 #86

K&R Gothmog Dec 2017 #87

So much for new blood lame54 Dec 2017 #92

Love them both but cilla4progress Dec 2017 #101

I like it. Of course, two Irishmen. nt Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #102

It would get me to the polls! lunatica Dec 2017 #103

a definite NO on Kennedy. Im undecided on Biden rollin74 Dec 2017 #105

Biden is an historically awful candidate. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #106