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In reply to the discussion: Snowden says U.S. not offering fair trial if he returns [View all]hack89
(39,171 posts)135. Why do you say that?
Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:15 PM - Edit history (1)
how can he be refused a jury trial? Who made the decision that he cannot have one?
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Real civil disobedience means facing the jail time if you believe in your cause
uhnope
Mar 2015
#112
Between the torture of Manning and the ruined lives of Kiriakou, Drake and Binney
riderinthestorm
Mar 2015
#115
Yes, a link/source is absolutely needed if you want to back up what you claim to be a "fact".
cui bono
Mar 2015
#67
Okay, so you admit that what you presented as fact before was mere speculation
cui bono
Mar 2015
#133
The only thing I'm discussing with you is your stating your assumptions as fact. n/t
cui bono
Mar 2015
#136
Because you can't refute the fact that he did indeed break the law - something a fair trial would
karynnj
Mar 2015
#138
The American people agree. They were initially split about even in 2013, and it only went down...
Tarheel_Dem
Mar 2015
#77
"The fact is that what he wants is NOT a fair trial, but a guarantee that he will not be punished."
cui bono
Mar 2015
#10
Exactly. No link offered. I personally believe Snowden is entitled to whistleblower protection
peacebird
Mar 2015
#25
Yes, plenty of whistleblowers who went through the "proper channels" as so many on DU
cui bono
Mar 2015
#30
Yes ruined. I don't know where post #139 is, but I do know that lives were ruined.
cui bono
Mar 2015
#149
Now you're ridiculing *Robert* Greenwald? I hope you misread that and are not ridiculing anyone who
cui bono
Mar 2015
#160
What is sad is that he has been made to be the bigger story than what he revealed.
Dustlawyer
Mar 2015
#58
Yeah. Notice that those who staunchly insist that his crimes be punished ignore the
GoneFishin
Mar 2015
#106
I'm not against supposition and speculation, but I am against someone saying something is a fact
cui bono
Mar 2015
#121
Because we all know what happens to whistleblowers, especially under this admin.
cui bono
Mar 2015
#123
tell us more about this CT of people being "suicided" for political reasons in the US
uhnope
Mar 2015
#158
It' not pollyanna viewing to see things as not entirely black all the time either
treestar
Mar 2015
#95
It's very simple, treestar: "It's unconstitutional!!!" That's all you really need to know.
randome
Mar 2015
#104
Either you really don't know what whistle-blowing means, or you don't like
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#38
What they really don't know is the history of what happens to whistleblowers who go through
cui bono
Mar 2015
#125
Those that hate whistle-blowers and those that dare speak truth to power live
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#130
You can easily find out why he didn't go through "LEGAL channels" if you google past whisteblowers'
cui bono
Mar 2015
#124
No, I can't tell you. Just as you can't tell me. You are speculating though, and making it sound as
cui bono
Mar 2015
#32
I'm not outraged at all. I just call it for what it is. You presented something as fact by the way
cui bono
Mar 2015
#45
I stand corrected. Looks like there were other cases as well. Sorry for getting that wrong /nt
think
Mar 2015
#144
It's an authoritarian problem. Authoritarians need to blindly believe in their leaders.
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#51
1955 called, and they want their sidewall haircuts back from Cryptoad. nt
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2015
#96
Would you have gone through "proper channels" under an admin who has prosecuted more whisteblowers
cui bono
Mar 2015
#44
I doubt those three would pardon him or negotiate a sentence before a trial
cstanleytech
Mar 2015
#80
If President Warren is anything like Senator Warren, she'd be very pro-national defense.
MADem
Mar 2015
#152
Why do you hate whistle-blowers? Do they shake your confidence in the authoritarian
rhett o rick
Mar 2015
#75
Maybe he can trade his Oscar for a pack of cigarettes while serving his time?
itsrobert
Mar 2015
#55
I'll bet the US doesn't want him back because the publicity would be out of their control.
Kablooie
Mar 2015
#76
I would stop asking if I was him. Wait for a revolution or MAJOR change in political landscape
yurbud
Mar 2015
#98
Real civil disobedience means facing the jail time if you believe in your cause
uhnope
Mar 2015
#113