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FarrenH

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9. The foolishness of this is especially apparent
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:39 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:23 PM - Edit history (5)

when you realize that modern yoga evolved on the world stage in the modern era. Despite the claims of some practitioners, it is not a 5,000-year-old practice. It has some roots in antiquity, in multiple different regional practices and ideas. Yoga is a modern synthesis. A majority of the poses were developed in the last 150 years and many of them were developed in places like the USA.

Personally I'm hostile to claims that appropriation is a negative at all except when it meets a very narrow set of conditions. To wit, when symbols that are considered sacred in some sense are used in a way that is disrespectful to their cultural significance in the culture of origin, or when people appropriate in a way that treats the source as an exotic source of entertainment or shallow stereotype, insulting the people they borrowed from in the process.

But when cultural sharing borne of respect and admiration are met with accusations of appropriation (and that it is held to be an unqualified wrong), such accusations are frequently deployed in the same manner and for the same apparent motivation as a high school kid getting annoyed because someone they dislike adopted what they think of as their unique dress style. In-culture, this "our thing" instinct is strong. You see it in the teens who get mad in the youtube comments at all the people who "only now that its trendy" get into some obscure band that they attached some of their identity to. Hegemony or no hegemony, its a mean-spirited impulse that shouldn't be indulged.

It is born of a selfishness, negative identity politics, grudges and the desire to deny others who adopt practices and symbols out of respect and admiration any benefit, asthetic, spiritual, or physical, from them. It's essentially a segregationist and anti-egalitarian attitude born of insecurity and a desire to punish people for making you feel less special.

When the whole white women belly-dancing spat briefly consumed various internet forums in the wake of a angry article by an Arab dancer in Salon, I just thought she was a mean-spirited cow. Especially since she claimed to speak for all other Arab belly-dancers and claimed that they only taught white women because of economic hardship. While my friend's (his family came from Egypt) mom who was an actual Egyptian belly-dancer in her youth thoroughly disagreed.

That and a lot of other flare-ups have convinced me that cultural appropriation is a sorely abused concept often employed by resentful assholes. As I said above, there are a narrow set of conditions where complaints are certainly valid, but I don't think we should be indulging ideas that in very obvious ways actually divide human beings, deny our common humanity and prevent us from learning from each other and being collectively better off for it.

Wow! Just wow. No more words. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #1
I have a few dlwickham Nov 2015 #3
lol. So true. yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #4
Zumba. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2015 #2
In a telephone interview with The Washington Post... bananas Nov 2015 #5
Someone's always offended by something. bigwillq Nov 2015 #6
According to a CBC article about this, no one was even offended by it. No complaints PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #8
They are as backward there as they are in the States. Good grief. Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #7
These culture war types are paranoia on display. forest444 Nov 2015 #11
it's not about christians, it's about Cultural Appropriation mwrguy Nov 2015 #12
fundies and SJWs--unite! MisterP Nov 2015 #13
The foolishness of this is especially apparent FarrenH Nov 2015 #9
They have a Facebook post about this... PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #10
Meanwhile, the CBC tracked down some local Hindus, who were not offended. Matariki Nov 2015 #14
sad but this is what happens when you take Christianity out of our public schools Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #15
The last part gave it away as a funny troll (I hope) PersonNumber503602 Nov 2015 #16
Yeah, master-level trolling. Dr. Strange Nov 2015 #19
You can only participate in an activity if your ancestors invented it XemaSab Nov 2015 #17
Do I even have ancestors? Recursion Nov 2015 #18
Yep, And As RobinA Nov 2015 #20
I'll One Up Ya! ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #21
I'll Give Up RobinA Nov 2015 #22
Chickens are originally Asian XemaSab Nov 2015 #24
This will only help conservatives NobodyHere Nov 2015 #23
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