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Demsrule86

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50. Maybo so...

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:20 PM

Feb 2017

But we also have lost all power ...the GOP has everything...and may end health care this year...with a better outcome in 2009, we might not have been where we are today who knows...I will say this in the short term primarying Lieberman hurt President Obama and ended any chance of Medicare for those over 55. With the GOP, prepared to up the Medicare age to 67 which would cause the deaths of thousands of Americans...that would have really been helpful. I think Lieberman would have lost anyway. We should turn our attention to getting rid of the GOP now...not primarying anyone unless they are completely helping Trump...and in red states it is stupid.

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New Liberal PAC Targets Democrats for Primaries [View all] brooklynite Feb 2017 OP

I Believe It-They Already Replaced a Democrat with a Republican in the White house Stallion Feb 2017 #1

+1000 OKNancy Feb 2017 #7

Word n/t otohara Feb 2017 #14

and who do you blame for loss of control of the Senate, House, most governorships and yurbud Feb 2017 #16

Binary-thinking ideologues who refuse to vote strategically because 'my purity' emulatorloo Feb 2017 #33

isn't the binary thinking on the side of those who think voters only have two choices and have to yurbud Feb 2017 #105

Face reality treestar Feb 2017 #110

that is why someone like Bernie has to come into the Democratic Party to have a chance of winning yurbud Feb 2017 #114

the process was not "rigged" treestar Feb 2017 #120

Delusional conspiracy theory. The primary wasn't "rigged." emulatorloo Mar 2017 #124

This will only help Trump... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #137

Those who ragged on President Obama in 08...green types... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #58

you can't control other people's behavior, only your own. the Democratic Party has to ask yurbud Feb 2017 #68

They can go away...they are unreliable and will never be Democrats. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #70

why don't they vote in their own self interest? treestar Feb 2017 #111

this sounds like the Bush defense of torture--"At least we don't behead nobody like Saddam did!" yurbud Feb 2017 #115

There is a lot of difference between the two parties treestar Feb 2017 #119

there needs to be more difference on economic & foreign policy too yurbud Feb 2017 #122

Bullshit. Whose responsible for Dodd-Frank? Republicans? emulatorloo Mar 2017 #129

Clinton did just that by opposing Dictator Putin and thus earned the wrath of oil billionaires delisen Mar 2017 #130

it's swinging for right because of Democrats competing to carry corporate water yurbud Feb 2017 #123

Dude, I read Marx too. I think you're full of it. emulatorloo Mar 2017 #126

Carrying corporate water-sloganeering. It's like saying "Make America Great Again" delisen Mar 2017 #127

They never accomplsh anything Progressive dog Feb 2017 #78

They don't...and if we let them they will reform the Democratic party into Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #80

Politicians who dont know how to talk to real people adigal Feb 2017 #95

term limits give more power to staffers and lobbyists since they'll be the only ones yurbud Feb 2017 #103

Good point nt adigal Feb 2017 #104

Yep, exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2017 #51

They sure did. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #57

They sure did, Progressive dog Feb 2017 #77

no. but funny still. nt JCanete Feb 2017 #88

Wow, you nailed that one still_one Feb 2017 #101

Yes. treestar Feb 2017 #109

No!! Get Dems elected in 2018 and then hold them accountable in 2020. nikibatts Feb 2017 #117

Plus infinity ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #125

This sounds like the beginnings of a trainwreck... that will have many unintended consequences. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #2

Didn't we learn anything from the last election? i guess not. nikibatts Feb 2017 #69

The good is again the enemy of the perfect DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #3

then tell the corporate tool to drop out. Their day is over. yurbud Feb 2017 #18

Turned out it wasn't DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #23

That's fair, and it never will be if we don't have a unified party, consistently and loudly JCanete Feb 2017 #91

It seems more likely the progressive era will end with these folks. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #59

if the corporate wing doesn't change their stripes or get out of the way, the GOP will continue to yurbud Feb 2017 #67

See I find that insulting...just because you don't Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #71

victory to do WHAT? The problem with DLC/New Democrat way is winning became an end in itself yurbud Feb 2017 #72

No it didn't...the DNC supported one of its own Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #75

Dems are doing a much better job fighting right now than they did during Bush yurbud Feb 2017 #79

See this is what I object to...how exactly are Democrats doing a better job fighting? Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #81

We probably agree on this. Sometimes incrementalism looks a lot like rolling back those gains though yurbud Feb 2017 #82

Really...becaue where I sit...kasich just felt Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #90

in some areas, like K-12 education Arne Duncan and Dems in Congress pressed the privatization yurbud Feb 2017 #83

We will be fortunate to still have any sort of Public education when Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #89

No such thing as DLC new Democrat...hasn't been for years. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #96

Third Way, New Democrats...you know something is wrong with a product when you have to keep changing yurbud Feb 2017 #99

If you were just concerned about funding campaigns, Bernie and Howard Dean before him should have yurbud Feb 2017 #73

I adore Howard Dean actually...but he purged no one. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #74

you have lost nearly everything with the current approach yurbud Feb 2017 #86

That was not Howard Dean's approach...after we stopped the 50 Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #87

good point about not purging. yurbud Feb 2017 #106

Before United, we were taking money. I think we have to be careful about tone though. JCanete Feb 2017 #93

Yep kevink077 Feb 2017 #76

It worked for the teabaggers. I'm in. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #4

Out of curiosity, (asking this as someone who grew up in WV), can Tanuki Feb 2017 #84

Well, I live "next door" in a purple state, so perhaps I have it easy in a way. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #107

hear, hear! nt Stellar Feb 2017 #118

Stupid people - this is why we lose OKNancy Feb 2017 #5

This is the only pressure they will respond to. alarimer Feb 2017 #6

Yeah ...a DINO is about all we can expect in WVA Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #17

Here is the deal if this was 2008 when Democrats could do something... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #60

Wouldn't it be wiser to work to get more Repugnants out of office first since cstanleytech Feb 2017 #8

Yes, but nobody ever thinks of anything so simple or practical. It's all about the "purity"... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #12

This sort of thinking put Trump in the White House. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #19

True Me. Feb 2017 #26

Yes. emulatorloo Feb 2017 #35

Not when your goal is to weaken the Democrats nini Feb 2017 #92

Astroturf. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #9

Damn! Just looked and they're a bunch of barn-burners. Hortensis Feb 2017 #10

That is an impressive coalition. demmiblue Feb 2017 #11

As one who helped drive Holy Joe Lieberman from the Dem Party Larkspur Feb 2017 #13

and what was the result...in the end Joe ran and won as an independent and with a score to settle Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #20

I'm very proud of my work to oust douche bag Lieberman Larkspur Feb 2017 #21

I hate Lieberman Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #40

If we did not primary Lieberman he would still be in the Senate poking Dems in the eye today Larkspur Feb 2017 #45

No he wouldn't still be in the Senate in my opinion Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #46

You are wrong Larkspur Feb 2017 #47

We will never know. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #53

great points. yurbud Feb 2017 #85

wow, I haven't seen a Lieberman apologist on a DEM discussion board in long while. m-lekktor Feb 2017 #32

Apologist? Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #39

Thanks to our primary of Lieberman in 2006 we now have a good Democrat in his stead Larkspur Feb 2017 #49

Maybo so... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #50

Again you are wrong and you sound like a defeatist Larkspur Feb 2017 #56

He didn't have the votes for the public option...and there Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #61

Not about attacking Lieberman type Democrats for purity Larkspur Feb 2017 #66

I am still trying to figure out how so many Bernie voters came to the conclusion that HRC was StevieM Feb 2017 #44

They both loved corporate money Larkspur Feb 2017 #48

HRC did not have a different voting record or different priorities than Barack Obama, Joe Biden or StevieM Feb 2017 #55

Maybe they can get Jill Stein to lead them.... Shell_Seas Feb 2017 #15

this is a good move but I am afraid if they pick candidates too far to the left, that won't help us. nikibatts Feb 2017 #22

Too far to the left? What does that even mean at this point? So what will ''help us" more DINOs? YOHABLO Feb 2017 #28

Yes, as Russ Feingold's and Zephyr Teachout's stunning victories in 2016 have proven emulatorloo Feb 2017 #34

It means that no matter what you will never elect a liberal in West Virginia... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #41

Yes...a 'dino' in WVAis better than a Republican in WVA... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #64

The Koch Bros. will be glad to make a donation. nt Cognitive_Resonance Feb 2017 #24

I suspect they already have. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #30

Time to do some weeding nt elmac Feb 2017 #25

I know I'm supposed to condemn them because we will lose some seats. HassleCat Feb 2017 #27

Get "them" under control? Challenge them, get rid of them. YOHABLO Feb 2017 #31

Who exactly are you referring to? Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #42

exactly, it is a miracle that their is a Democrat elected treestar Feb 2017 #112

In this environment...it really doesn't matter. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Jake Stern Feb 2017 #29

Kick! zentrum Feb 2017 #36

Stick to targeting Republicans for 2018. Leave the Dems alone. nikibatts Feb 2017 #37

I like it ... Dr Rise Feb 2017 #38

I am sure you think so... Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #43

Why are comments like this acceptable? The post didn't rise to the occasion of a right-wing JCanete Feb 2017 #94

He defended and praised Trump in my opinion. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #97

in a different post or in this one? Anyway, I appreciate you not abusing the alert function. I never JCanete Feb 2017 #100

You seem concerned. Please feel free to air more of your concerns, and enjoy your stay. msanthrope Feb 2017 #113

Well, been here since 2003, so if its a standard cordiality at this point, Welcome to DU and JCanete Feb 2017 #116

it's not the post Skittles Mar 2017 #133

This will be painful. HassleCat Feb 2017 #52

Lets do our best to make sure that the GOP retains control of congress Gothmog Feb 2017 #54

You can count on these folks to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory everytime. Demsrule86 Feb 2017 #63

Wonder Who Is Funding? TomCADem Feb 2017 #65

Democrats need to represent their constituents NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #98

If millineals would turn out to vote in higher numbers Bradical79 Feb 2017 #102

there is a lesson in the little state of Delaware treestar Feb 2017 #108

Disgustingly Moderate henbuck Feb 2017 #121

Oh fuck this shit bravenak Mar 2017 #128

If these people are Greens or are into "political purity". . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2017 #131

Not a good idea. It would be better to go after Republicans in purple states than after tblue37 Mar 2017 #132

YES! nikibatts Mar 2017 #134

Trump is in trouble?? RandiFan1290 Mar 2017 #135

completely stupid when you are trying to flip the House and the Senate... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #136

Useful idiots... Needless to say Tulsi probably gets a pass Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #138