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14. Participation in judicial proceeding is not optional for obvious reasons.

Reply to candelista (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:20 PM

Aug 2014

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it is not like Assange has any other options. Can you think of any?

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WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange Says to Leave London Embassy 'Soon' [View all] Hissyspit Aug 2014 OP

Hopefully he is off to Sweden. Nt hack89 Aug 2014 #1

So he can be indicted for not using a condom during consensual sex? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #4

Unlawful coercion, two counts of sexual molestation and rape - those are the actual charges hack89 Aug 2014 #8

An obvious set-up. candelista Aug 2014 #9

If it so obvious than I am sure he will be acquitted by a jury hack89 Aug 2014 #11

You have more faith in Swedish courts than I do. candelista Aug 2014 #12

Participation in judicial proceeding is not optional for obvious reasons. hack89 Aug 2014 #14

There are so many things wrong with your post... candelista Aug 2014 #15

Why would the British want to help him out? hack89 Aug 2014 #16

so, the British passed a "lex Assange" reorg Aug 2014 #23

+1. nt candelista Aug 2014 #25

US has already said they're not contemplating charging Assange Recursion Aug 2014 #97

And you believe this? candelista Aug 2014 #145

And the allegation is: failure to use a condom during consensual sex. Puhhlease. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #18

Read this and tell me how consensual it was hack89 Aug 2014 #20

Crimes admitted by his own attorneys. joshcryer Aug 2014 #31

Wow. And several DUers are defending this. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #40

Dreamy progressive heroes get a pass on sex crimes I guess hack89 Aug 2014 #49

Sure as hell looks that way.. I don't suppose it would help if they took a step back and Cha Aug 2014 #113

Alleged, he hasn't been convicted of anything. harun Aug 2014 #137

When you have so called progressives minimizing rape and coerced sex hack89 Aug 2014 #139

Well, Sarah Palin doesn't think he's 'dreamy' she wanted him charged as a traitor. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #141

So the words of a RW TV personality is suppose to mean something? hack89 Aug 2014 #143

A condom was a condition of consent. joshcryer Aug 2014 #30

Based on what evidence? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #69

Assange's own testimony. joshcryer Aug 2014 #116

For sexual assault BainsBane Aug 2014 #50

A woman invites a man she hardly knows into her bed. Their relationship is consensual. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #68

Secrecy in govt is an entirely separate issue BainsBane Aug 2014 #125

Your stance on rape is correct but I say again that once consent is given it is very hard to JDPriestly Aug 2014 #130

Proof is a matter for court BainsBane Aug 2014 #131

I don't think women are responsible for their own assault. But women should be careful JDPriestly Aug 2014 #134

You are not telling the truth here re: your bolded section and the phrase before. Luminous Animal Aug 2014 #132

So he can be indicted for rape. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #87

this has been gone over repeatedly reorg Aug 2014 #95

Nope, you don't get it Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #99

uh, I read the whole thing reorg Aug 2014 #100

Clearly you haven't Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #103

Oh yes, I did. reorg Aug 2014 #106

Apparently you are incredibly stupid. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #120

So you cannot cite a single instance reorg Aug 2014 #123

That's not what he's being prosecuted for. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #135

I said similar circumstances reorg Aug 2014 #136

It was rejected by the same 'High Court' which refused to hand over mass murderer Pinochet sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #151

One case has nothing to do with the other. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #152

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #21

Sorry I gave you a sad face. hack89 Aug 2014 #24

There is some speculation he's trying to use "ill health" as an excuse to avoid extradition MADem Aug 2014 #2

See my post #6. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #5

As I type this there are only five replies in this thread. MADem Aug 2014 #6

Sorry. Number 4. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #34

His own court statements admitted he did it. joshcryer Aug 2014 #32

How often is that crime prosecuted in Sweden? In what percentage of cases? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #33

Sweden takes it very seriously. joshcryer Aug 2014 #37

She doesn't have an STD and she isn't pregnant. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #70

I don't think it's corruption. joshcryer Aug 2014 #117

Until you read the legal documents BainsBane Aug 2014 #51

Do you have a link to the women's statements? JDPriestly Aug 2014 #66

I linked to the Telegraph article and the legal documents BainsBane Aug 2014 #108

Oh heck. You can figure it out. But just to be sure we keep moving here.. elias49 Aug 2014 #13

Well, some people keep more than one thread open--I thought he replied in the wrong thread. nt MADem Aug 2014 #26

I support transparent government. Read the book, Endless Enemies by Jonathan Kwiitny JDPriestly Aug 2014 #19

I'll belive that when I see it.... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #3

Who? alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #7

You are the only one who doesn't know. candelista Aug 2014 #10

Being imprisoned is tough. The 1% has many ways and all the money in the world to destroy Zorra Aug 2014 #17

he isn't being imprisoned, he is there by choice JI7 Aug 2014 #27

If he is "imprisoned" there, how come he is able to announce his decision to leave? (nt) Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #42

Please, don't be deliberately obtuse. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #153

I thought JA had long been in that 1% income bracket? Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #74

So does Lex Luthor. randome Aug 2014 #75

A few one per centers helped him out by posting bail for him treestar Aug 2014 #78

Many prisons out there the 1% keep people in, Cuba, Gaza, Embassy's and of course Regular Prisons harun Aug 2014 #138

I hope he makes it. I wonder why they announced it. pam4water Aug 2014 #22

Better to jump than be pushed? nt MADem Aug 2014 #28

Perhaps the person who was raped might have a different view. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #29

Yes, if there is such a person. candelista Aug 2014 #35

Who was raped? There were never any such charges, no charges at all as a matter of fact. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #38

So this is just fine and dandy as far as you are concerned? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #43

Are you aware that the woman was LYING. That she provided the police with what SHE said sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #44

You again ingore the arrest warrant provided to you BainsBane Aug 2014 #110

Are you aware that the woman was LYING. That she provided the police with what SHE said sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #44

No DNA in the condom that Assange refused to use? Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #46

I had a feeling you knew nothing about this case, thanks for verifying that. The question is, since sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #47

So if his innocence is such a slam-dunk Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #48

Obviously he is evading prosecution BainsBane Aug 2014 #54

No one who is being politically prosecuted can ever assume their innocence is a 'slam dunk'. sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #65

How are you going to spin this when Assange goes to Sweden and nothing happens to him? randome Aug 2014 #71

The same way the people of Steubenville spin their support BainsBane Aug 2014 #112

If that's true, then why not go to Sweden and win and be free forever? treestar Aug 2014 #80

there most certainly were: Here is the warrant BainsBane Aug 2014 #52

Additionally, one of the victims BainsBane Aug 2014 #53

the "girl"? reorg Aug 2014 #81

Even for me? BainsBane Aug 2014 #104

Even for you reorg Aug 2014 #119

"cute and helpless" in expecting an accused assailant face justice? BainsBane Aug 2014 #127

Of course you are correct. Your post was alerted, btw. woo me with science Aug 2014 #57

Thanks. The alerter states this: sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #64

There is an arrest warrant which you ignore BainsBane Aug 2014 #107

Glad you brought that up. There was NEVER ANY NEED for an arrest warrant in this case sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #140

I was reading this site for years before I joined. nilesobek Aug 2014 #111

I follow the evidence in any case. I am not going to fall for the 'use women' routine. The evidence sabrina 1 Aug 2014 #133

The Ecuadorean embassy staff must be pretty sick of him by now Zorro Aug 2014 #36

Or not. Hissyspit Aug 2014 #39

Absolutely. Who would want an unshaven, unwashed Julian Assange shambling about their workplace Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #41

especially the women BainsBane Aug 2014 #55

K&R. And the smear machine rolls on, I see. woo me with science Aug 2014 #56

You mean to smear rape victims BainsBane Aug 2014 #58

The MO of propaganda: repetition of disproven smear over and over again woo me with science Aug 2014 #59

You don't even have a basic understanding of the term 'whistleblower'. randome Aug 2014 #60

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #105

So you didn't read the documents BainsBane Aug 2014 #61

Hey, so long as they are on your side, all allegations must be smears, right? Adrahil Aug 2014 #62

"Silence": please explain how Assange's appearing in Swedish court BainsBane Aug 2014 #115

"Serious breach of Julian Assage’s human rights" reorg Aug 2014 #63

59 organizations that refuse to understand how the Swedish legal system works. nt hack89 Aug 2014 #67

Two Swedish organizations, as well as jurist organizations from around the world reorg Aug 2014 #76

All he has to do is go to Sweden hack89 Aug 2014 #77

all you have to do is reorg Aug 2014 #82

I think the Swedes understand their own system just fine hack89 Aug 2014 #84

Why do the UK and Sweden disobey international law? reorg Aug 2014 #85

What obligation under the UN refugee convention hack89 Aug 2014 #86

Why do you ask me? reorg Aug 2014 #89

Assange was not offered political asylum hack89 Aug 2014 #90

No, Ecuador has granted him political asylum reorg Aug 2014 #92

Your own fucking quote says "diplomatic". nt hack89 Aug 2014 #94

You didn't click on the links, apparently reorg Aug 2014 #96

He's such a special snowflake. Being subject to the law, like the rest of us are, in treestar Aug 2014 #79

What does the law say? reorg Aug 2014 #83

Learn the difference between political and diplomatic hack89 Aug 2014 #88

Do you really want to repeat reorg Aug 2014 #91

The UK does not have to respect diplomatic asylum hack89 Aug 2014 #93

no, they are not OAS State Party reorg Aug 2014 #98

Once again, diplomatic asylum is not part of the convention hack89 Aug 2014 #101

yawn, but political asylum is reorg Aug 2014 #102

Here are some good articles on diplomatic immunity hack89 Aug 2014 #109

not interested, not the topic reorg Aug 2014 #114

My links show that you are wrong hack89 Aug 2014 #118

no they don't and no, it isn't politically motivated reorg Aug 2014 #121

Location is the only thing that distinguishes political from diplomatic asylum hack89 Aug 2014 #122

where such a thing exists reorg Aug 2014 #124

It exists - it is not recognized hack89 Aug 2014 #126

I am aware of two such cases: in communist dictatorships reorg Aug 2014 #128

I gave you four other examples in non-communist countries. Nt hack89 Aug 2014 #129

The State Department losing some sway are they? Ash_F Aug 2014 #72

I doubt the State Department has anything to do with it. nt hack89 Aug 2014 #73

Indeed, they are having less and less to do with anything. Ash_F Aug 2014 #142

Kerry is no Hillary when it comes to being SOS, that is true. nt hack89 Aug 2014 #144

Gotten enough attention yet? candelista Aug 2014 #146

Says the person posting an edgy "look at me, I'm a cool kid" comment? hack89 Aug 2014 #147

Ah! Tu Quoque! candelista Aug 2014 #148

It doesn't reach the level of dogs with two dicks, I must admit hack89 Aug 2014 #149

Some express their happiness more vibrantly than others. randome Aug 2014 #150

It's incredible how many authoritarians vehemently hate Julian for blowing the whistle on corrupt Zorra Aug 2014 #154