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69. Such deep and festering hatred is unhealthy, disturbing and frightening.

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:51 AM

Oct 2014

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What you relish is not justice, it is the blood-lust of the mob. Far worse, to many, such sentiments ultimately vindicate Zimmerman's alleged racism and paranoia.

Is it therefore justified to harass and frighten anyone who's been acquitted at trial, or only Zimmerman and those whom you disapprove?

Do Zimmerman's purported "apologists" consist of anyone who believes in the presumption of innocence, the requirement that the State must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, or the sanctity of a jury verdict? Do you seek to change the fundamentals of Western jurisprudence?

Are you the arbiter of what constitutes "justice?" What are your qualifications?

If some impressionable, ignorant or self-righteous fool attempts to hurt Zimmerman and ends up dead, seriously injured or ruining his or her life in prison, no less by Zimmerman lawfully defending himself with a firearm, do you believe that you and those like you may bear any responsibility for encouraging or excusing such behavior?

I'm not a fan of Zimmerman, but no matter his malfeasance and any perceived injustice, my liberal principles and common decency will remain unchanged.

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George Zimmerman not expected to face civil rights charges in Trayvon Martin death [View all] Judi Lynn Oct 2014 OP

disgusting Skittles Oct 2014 #1

Seems like someone else needs to join the Secret Service director in resignation... NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #2

You must have missed the news philosslayer Oct 2014 #38

I was thinking of those closer to this case. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #56

Did anyone really believe there was any chance of civil rights charges? branford Oct 2014 #3

Right to life ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #8

I know heaven05 Oct 2014 #23

I hoped. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #33

The FBI usually goes further than that. amandabeech Oct 2014 #43

I think you understate his psychological profile. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #48

Interesting. Thanks for posting. amandabeech Oct 2014 #52

This is Eric Holder's 1dogleft Oct 2014 #4

You can't beat the Zim JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #5

But the Zimmermans are the real victims! (Whining Sarcasm) Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #24

I know - for real though! JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #27

Holder isnt the issue but rather I suspect they decided the evidence wasnt strong enough. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #37

This.... we have to be very careful here. Adrahil Oct 2014 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #54

.. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #6

So... no justice for Martin whatsoever? sakabatou Oct 2014 #7

Zimmerman has to forever live with the fear Trayvon felt Skittles Oct 2014 #90

If your daddy is a judge you get a free pass. Hubert Flottz Oct 2014 #9

Were you shooting for any degree of accuracy? If so, you should have said that he was a former 24601 Oct 2014 #11

I knew that, I was just checking to see if you knew. Hubert Flottz Oct 2014 #85

Lawmen? These are federal/state/local executive branch personnel reporting ultimately to presidents, 24601 Oct 2014 #104

I did agree with Mr. Dershowitz. Hubert Flottz Oct 2014 #106

Given how badly the trial went, I guess I'm not surprised davidpdx Oct 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #12

Bookmarking Syntheto JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #13

I'm betting you have a bright future on this site... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #16

... catbyte Oct 2014 #18

Been here since 2007 JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #20

How about those KC Royals! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #25

this is about heaven05 Oct 2014 #19

I think we have a few folks that will disagree with you JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #22

for sure heaven05 Oct 2014 #26

Sometimes JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #29

figures, no surprise heaven05 Oct 2014 #14

Heaven look up at post 12 JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #15

thanks heaven05 Oct 2014 #21

It is very sick. Part of their endless war agenda. Very disgusting. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #28

Can't really say I'm surprised... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #17

But the DOJ *tried*. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #30

"insufficient evidence" treestar Oct 2014 #31

Well hopefully the Martins will continue AndreaCG Oct 2014 #32

Trayvon's parents sued the Condo Association, and received a 7-figure settlement. amandabeech Oct 2014 #45

I don't believe they can sue him Calista241 Oct 2014 #34

That is correct. GGJohn Oct 2014 #35

The poisonous mayonnaise AndreaCG Oct 2014 #39

That is incorrect. Zim would have to move for dismissal under msanthrope Oct 2014 #47

Ok, thanks for the correction. GGJohn Oct 2014 #49

Doesn't matter Calista241 Oct 2014 #98

Like I wrote...since Zim eschewed a Peterson hearing, he does msanthrope Oct 2014 #99

That's awful Rose Siding Oct 2014 #36

Incorrect. They can sue, Zim would be entitled to a hearing to determine if msanthrope Oct 2014 #46

And so it goes. Brigid Oct 2014 #40

Eric Holder: Champion of civil rights WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #41

It's not about Eric Holder. branford Oct 2014 #44

that doesn't stop the knee jerkers from using AG Holder as one of their fave Punching bags. Cha Oct 2014 #118

Eric Holder is a champion of civil rights. But there simply may not be msanthrope Oct 2014 #50

Eric Holder has been an awesome defender of civil rights since he began but that doesn't stop Cha Oct 2014 #119

He is despite what you think. It's about what can be proven in a court of law. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #127

Unfortunately, I fear the same will be true with respect to Officer Wilson 3rdwaydem Oct 2014 #51

Scot free, then. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #53

Expected lurch2 Oct 2014 #55

There was more than enough evidence to convict him of murder. The jury voted the wrong way. (eom) StevieM Oct 2014 #57

Unlikely lurch2 Oct 2014 #58

Not when prosecution witnesses supported Zimmerman's story. nt hack89 Oct 2014 #59

No there wasn't, the jury disagreed and found him not guilty, all 6 of them. GGJohn Oct 2014 #60

I thought Zimmerman's story was utterly ridiculous Skittles Oct 2014 #62

No, there wasn't enough evidence to convict GZ. cpwm17 Oct 2014 #61

so it's legal to profile, stalk and murder someone Skittles Oct 2014 #63

It also apparently depends on whose skin is darker. lonestarnot Oct 2014 #64

these apologists would be singing a different tune if it was their loved one murdered by Zimmerman Skittles Oct 2014 #65

It's a fucking trigger for me. I can't even discuss it Skittilou. lonestarnot Oct 2014 #66

If the evidence is so obvious and clear, we should expect those federal charges any day now . . . branford Oct 2014 #67

fuck Zimmerman Skittles Oct 2014 #68

Such deep and festering hatred is unhealthy, disturbing and frightening. branford Oct 2014 #69

waste of time Skittles Oct 2014 #70

Sigh . . . branford Oct 2014 #71

IIRC, in Florida and many states, the crime of stalking requires quite a bit more than amandabeech Oct 2014 #75

I think that is why there wasn't enough of a charge on civil rights JonLP24 Oct 2014 #73

Your claims are beyond the evidence cpwm17 Oct 2014 #74

to me what is not believable Skittles Oct 2014 #86

Nobody is saying that. lurch2 Oct 2014 #109

Travyon would be alive if he had not encountered that gun humping piece of crap Skittles Oct 2014 #114

Wow lurch2 Oct 2014 #116

Funny how convictions happen all the time with scant evidence Ash_F Oct 2014 #107

I not sure what evidence you are referring to cpwm17 Oct 2014 #111

I don't know the burden of proof for these sort of things JonLP24 Oct 2014 #72

Federal criminal civil rights charges must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt, amandabeech Oct 2014 #77

Holy shit. I'm actually reading Zimmerman apologist posts here. valerief Oct 2014 #76

Apologists? branford Oct 2014 #78

Been on DU for a couple of months...mkay. U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #81

Your emotional reaction doesn't trump the law Lurks Often Oct 2014 #79

Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA nt U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #82

that's your favorite group? Skittles Oct 2014 #87

So what? GGJohn Oct 2014 #93

And do you have a point? Lurks Often Oct 2014 #95

oh but ZIMMERMAN'S emotional reaction sure trumps the law Skittles Oct 2014 #89

Only none of the physical evidence, expert testimony Lurks Often Oct 2014 #94

fact is, Trayvon would be alive were it not for Zimmerman Skittles Oct 2014 #96

You're really not that different from a 9/11 truther or RW birther Lurks Often Oct 2014 #101

Are you saying there was or wasn't jury nullification? nt valerief Oct 2014 #110

I'm a commerical trial attorney who followed the Zimmerman trial branford Oct 2014 #115

So justice could only be served by jury nullification, which they made sure didn't happen. Thanks. valerief Oct 2014 #120

Jury nullification is commonly understood as a jury refusing to convict a legally guilty defendant. branford Oct 2014 #121

We have a corrupt judicial system. We need to stop "respecting" that. nt valerief Oct 2014 #122

In what way was the Zimmerman trial "corrupt," other than not achieving the verdict you wanted? branford Oct 2014 #123

Yes, the murder case was certainly "fair and balanced." valerief Oct 2014 #124

The argument that the state deliberately lost is absurd branford Oct 2014 #125

I'm saying I followed the case pretty closely Lurks Often Oct 2014 #117

There never was going to be a federal case madville Oct 2014 #80

Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA nt U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #83

I notice those things, too! valerief Oct 2014 #84

head over there if that's your favorite group Skittles Oct 2014 #88

Does that actually constitute a substantive rebuttal to the issues? branford Oct 2014 #92

Stop wading in the shallow end of the intellectual pool hack89 Oct 2014 #100

And that's relevant to this thread why? GGJohn Oct 2014 #102

there's plenty of them Skittles Oct 2014 #91

This is a pretty conservative site, for its name. /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #108

Zimmerman is a dumbass loser Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #97

I remember the tape of the horrific, terrified screams that the Defense claimed was crim son Oct 2014 #103

Because it clearly was Zimmerman screaming. cpwm17 Oct 2014 #105

I was initially sympathetic to Zimmerman Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #112

IMO, the publicity and noteriety he gained from the trial Calista241 Oct 2014 #113

It's fucked up, but so difficult to prove "psychological racism" and its impact. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #126

A federal charge would also require evidence that Zimmerman's actions were the result of his racism. branford Oct 2014 #128

That's what I think too. A civil case would do it because the burden of proof Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #129