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In the discussion thread: Cracker Barrel Shooting: Gunman Opens Fire At Ohio Restaurant; 3 Dead [View all]

Sat Apr 14, 2012, 05:07 PM

139. Riddle me this - police arrived WHILE she was on the phone with 911.

I get that he got inside with a rifle, but how in hades was he able to kill her and THEN go to the bathroom to shoot and kill one daughter, wounding another, if the police were already on site while she was still on the phone with 911?

Listen here: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/04/at_cracker_barrel_man_guns_dow.html

One would think that 'shots fired' would have meant they stormed the building, not sat outside long enough for him to hunt down his daughters in the restroom.

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183 replies	Author	Time	Post
Cracker Barrel Shooting: Gunman Opens Fire At Ohio Restaurant; 3 Dead [View all]	onehandle	Apr 2012	OP
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	Apr 2012	#1
She broke up with him at a Cracker Barrel?	Atman	Apr 2012	#2
Ahem. Do not disparage their bacon. I happen to love it. It's thick and crispy.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#7
the sides at CB are really good also...	IamK	Apr 2012	#20
What is wrong with you people?	AlbertCat	Apr 2012	#23
Okay, you opened the door...	Atman	Apr 2012	#128
I didn't even know CB had pigs in a blanket on the menu	Major Nikon	Apr 2012	#135
Not MY hash brown casserole! I LOVE the hash brown casserole! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#27
Probably not :-)	madokie	Apr 2012	#30
"It's believed that it's one family at this point"	muriel_volestrangler	Apr 2012	#3
That is terrible	Atman	Apr 2012	#6
It makes me vomit that anyone, even sick sons of bitches like this one, have access to guns nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#29
"If I cain'ts have'er, NO one's gonner!!"	HughBeaumont	Apr 2012	#4
That has a name. Shrinks in the U.S. call this, 'family annihilation.' I hate guns.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#36
Ah. Aren't guns just f'ng great? They just give me one hell of a feeling of safety. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#5
My Volvo makes me feel secure.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#32
Sure. That's why bombs are sold at the local supermarket. It's not the bombs, it's the people that	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#38
Actually there a lot of toxic chemicals at the super market that could be used for evil purposes.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#44
Ok, and I have nothing against the sale of metal. Let individuals manufacture their own gun	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#47
Bad news.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#51
Fine. However, every gun murder I read (and there are plenty) is done with guns purchased, made by	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#52
Because the same idea worked on cocaine and heroine ... right?	hack89	Apr 2012	#54
I knew it wouldn't be long before the NRA rep would show up. Does defending gun manufacturers	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#60
Explain to me just how your plan will keep guns out of the hands of criminals.	hack89	Apr 2012	#61
Does it insult you to be called the NRA? Your only comments to me are defenses of the NRA's	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#66
You have not explained how you will seize all those guns nor how you will pay for them.	hack89	Apr 2012	#72
I answered someone regarding that. I told you to read my responses. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#77
So "I don't know" is your final word on the matter? nt	hack89	Apr 2012	#78
Dodge.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#114
It helps when you are accusing them of things they have no participation in or responsibility for.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#113
Commercially available coke an heroin were banned, but it was made legal to produce your own?	harmonicon	Apr 2012	#102
No - the idea that banning them will make them disappear from American society.	hack89	Apr 2012	#103
I would like to know myself	Becka2515	Apr 2012	#65
I don't know, but it's ridiculous that we have to live this way, with constant gun murders in this	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#71
immediate issues that come to mind	melm00se	Apr 2012	#80
I see...	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#91
I'll take 'em one at time	melm00se	Apr 2012	#96
You're an ace at misinterpreting the 2nd and 3rd amendments to your advantage.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#116
.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#99
" It was meant for a time when...." ...applies equally to the rest of the Amendments.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#119
Well said. n/t	Psephos	Apr 2012	#150
Sorry,	Ashgrey77	Apr 2012	#147
I have a right not to feel threatened by maniacs who want to pack heat and are just dying to shoot	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#151
Those people are generally classed as "criminals" and are not legally allowed...	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#155
Wrong. A gun murderer was just a person with a gun before he killed someone nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#157
Incorrect.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#161
And gun sellers know who they are before selling guns to them? Oh please. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#162
Sorry, you made that turn a bit fast for me. What are you stating/asking? n/t	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#164
Look, I'm bored discussing the defense of the right wing NRA. I'm done with this. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#166
Who's defending the NRA?	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#167
Gun lovers love the NRA, and are likely members of it. And the NRA is Republican nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#176
I think you meant Fourth Amendment, not Fifth. n/t	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#117
In the land of the blind the one eyed man would be king.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#87
How would you defend yourself against someone throwing a piece of furniture at you? Or slapping you	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#89
I asked a couple of questions, responses were avoided.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#98
If you are not scared, why would you carry a gun .01% of the time?	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#118
Enough of the moral elitism.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#159
I've answered all the questions. The NRA supporters have not. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#163
I feel so neglected.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#168
? Is it not enough to say you defend the NRA? And the NRA is Republican nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#175
Please stop with this "defending the NRA shit".	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#177
Are you kidding me? Your views reflect those of the Republican NRA, but I'm supposed to ignore that	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#178
You can make up and believe anything you want.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#180
PS	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#181
You left out the vital 1st step: Shred the Constitution when you don't agree with it	24601	Apr 2012	#130
Modify it. That's what the framers meant, and that's been done before.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#133
No doubt the framers meant that changes require a Constitutional amendment. It's less-clear that	24601	Apr 2012	#134
And changes begin with people like me, who are tired of bullshit, such as the Clint Eastwood	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#138
I'm actually gratified that you will not discuss this further because the last thing we need are	24601	Apr 2012	#140
Death and murder,	Ashgrey77	Apr 2012	#148
"death and murder happen by the second everywhere in the world" Bullshit.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#152
Guess what,	minavasht	Apr 2012	#182
Well, I'd settle for getting rid of that NRA-sponsored 75%. Thanks for making my point for me nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#183
Does Ohio have Concealed Carry Laws?	ewagner	Apr 2012	#8
Oh, they'll be jumping on this soon. Personally, I suspect more people would have been killed if	Hoyt	Apr 2012	#9
If she had chosen a bar instead of Cracker Barrel to break the news	jpak	Apr 2012	#13
yup	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#33
If only she'd been armed...	KamaAina	Apr 2012	#106
The purpose of concealed carry is self protection	hack89	Apr 2012	#10
To bad the girlfriend wasn't packing, right?	Javaman	Apr 2012	#14
She couldn't be any worse off then she is right now. nt	hack89	Apr 2012	#17
Oh? dead comes to mind. nt	Javaman	Apr 2012	#50
Reading Comprehension issues?	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#120
rude problems?	Javaman	Apr 2012	#146
The purpose of concealed carry is self protection	AlbertCat	Apr 2012	#25
Don't see the connection between CCW and the private for profit prison system.	hack89	Apr 2012	#31
Don't see the connection between CCW and the private for profit prison system.	AlbertCat	Apr 2012	#39
Since gun violence is at historic lows and steadily declining	hack89	Apr 2012	#41
If the CCW laws are being put forward by investors in privatized prisons (Wells-Fargo),	Occulus	Apr 2012	#63
Mandatory sentencing laws from the "war on drugs"	hack89	Apr 2012	#74
And who do you think lobbied Congress for these mandatory sentences?	Tsiyu	Apr 2012	#82
So who are they? And what exactly is their connection with CCW?	hack89	Apr 2012	#83
The silliest games are played by those who	Tsiyu	Apr 2012	#108
So CCW is nothing more than a cover to make private prisons profitable?	hack89	Apr 2012	#110
Why are prisons full?	Tsiyu	Apr 2012	#131
Drug laws and mandatory sentencing law.	hack89	Apr 2012	#132
Too bad she wasn't Bloomberg's niece.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#34
Do they have anti-murder laws? nt	Snake Alchemist	Apr 2012	#12
"Were there armed citizens in the restaurant to stop this? "	greiner3	Apr 2012	#19
Where were the cops?	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#105
Cracker Barrell gets the 60+ crowd for the most part...	IamK	Apr 2012	#22
Here's a small part.	atreides1	Apr 2012	#26
(d) No one's watching.	AlbertCat	Apr 2012	#40
And people who kill people follow rules???	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#42
The response was to potentially explain why there were no 'friendlies' with guns inside the	AtheistCrusader	Apr 2012	#59
More gunnuts to keep us safe from the gunnuts	Major Nikon	Apr 2012	#136
Tragic. She tried to leave him in public because she was frightened.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#11
I have to ask a question...	Javaman	Apr 2012	#16
He seemed totally normal at first but gradually became abusive and controlling.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#24
Your experience was eerily similar to mine	susanr516	Apr 2012	#35
I cannot imagine going through that with a child.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#79
Dang, that's sounds scary.	Javaman	Apr 2012	#49
He had some health issues which were not being addressed.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#73
My ex-brother-in law tried to choke my sister when she had papers served.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#21
How awful for your sister. She's lucky to be alive.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#28
I've met our local assistant DA.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#43
Abused Women and Family shelters are life savers. Your assistant DA is doing good work.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#75
Cool story, bro.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2012	#37
Good thing she had that gun.	Lasher	Apr 2012	#58
She learned well in the Air Force.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#84
A brave veteran.	Lasher	Apr 2012	#127
Damn right! nt	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#158
An important story. Thank you. nt	rrneck	Apr 2012	#55
You are welcome.	CottonBear	Apr 2012	#76
Five cops shot in New Hampshire earlier today	TheCowsCameHome	Apr 2012	#15
Don't worry, all those drug suspects had their CCW's.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#18
Just another senseless death by gun in America	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#45
The ironic thing is that gun violence is at historic low and you have never been safer	hack89	Apr 2012	#46
Your stats, my stats, we all got stats...	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#53
1992 - 24,703 murder and nonnegligent manslaughter deaths. 2010 - 14,748 deaths	hack89	Apr 2012	#56
I take the Public Health approach...	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#62
When you can quantify the number of violent crimes or deaths prevented	hack89	Apr 2012	#69
the problem is that you gun-promoters want guns to be available to every hot headed asshole in theUS	Kolesar	Apr 2012	#112
Cites to evidence, please. n/t	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#121
And yet gun violence is at historic lows and still going down.	hack89	Apr 2012	#123
Ha! You have no answer, hack ... eom	Kolesar	Apr 2012	#125
Answer for what? You didn't ask a question. nt	hack89	Apr 2012	#126
What is it, only 14,000 killed last year? Yay.	Comrade Grumpy	Apr 2012	#90
Actually it was 8,775	hack89	Apr 2012	#95
What the hell is wrong with some of you?	RC	Apr 2012	#48
Aw come on...	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#57
But there is the issue in a nut shell - "level of violence we are forced to live with"	hack89	Apr 2012	#64
Go to a place where gun violence is not common	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#142
Like my home town? One murder in 12 years?	hack89	Apr 2012	#143
the people I know do not live in poor urban areas	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#144
All I know is that violence in America has been constantly declining	hack89	Apr 2012	#145
OK	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#153
So irrational fear of rare events based on personal experience	hack89	Apr 2012	#156
Sorry too many negative experiences involving guns	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#165
I have no fear of more gun control - it is a dead issue.	hack89	Apr 2012	#169
I think you know	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#171
But you don't get it - violence is declining. It is at historically low level and still going down.	hack89	Apr 2012	#172
So many claims and accusations...	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#173
"One day maybe we can have a society where guns are regulated."	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#179
Yeah, I'm sure you will appreciate the humor	nobodyspecial	Apr 2012	#68
humor is a way of coping with horror	marions ghost	Apr 2012	#141
I saw the thread title	nobodyspecial	Apr 2012	#67
Cracker Barrel and The Olive Garden are just part of this board's culture.	JVS	Apr 2012	#70
But gun violence is at historic lows. Statistically, this didn't really happen.	Crunchy Frog	Apr 2012	#129
Hey, leave him alone - he was standing his ground!	polichick	Apr 2012	#81
How long before the NRA-GOP argues that divorce by gun is a Constitutional right?	onehandle	Apr 2012	#85
I wouldn't put anything past them - so sad how those two organizations have...	polichick	Apr 2012	#86
Divorce by gun?	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#88
The most important thing in all this is that	Cheap_Trick	Apr 2012	#92
Word to the gun nuts -	bitchkitty	Apr 2012	#93
Thank you for calling us out.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#100
I"m sure that those who are mourning the death of an innocent	bitchkitty	Apr 2012	#111
Some people don't have a clue.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#160
Every time there is a tragedy involving guns, you all rush to bash "gun nuts"	hack89	Apr 2012	#101
It's called moral highground.	Remmah2	Apr 2012	#104
Please provides cites to anyone supporting this criminal.	PavePusher	Apr 2012	#122
First time I saw a Cracker Barrel, it had a burning truck in the parking lot	NickB79	Apr 2012	#94
top three stories on CNN.com under "latest news":	renate	Apr 2012	#97
If our gun laws are so ineffective	hack89	Apr 2012	#107
50% decline while a major gun control measure was allowed to expire to boot	NickB79	Apr 2012	#115
Well, to be honest, it is not like assault weapons were ever a real threat to public safety	hack89	Apr 2012	#124
No kidding.	Dr_Scholl	Apr 2012	#137
She knew	Catherine Vincent	Apr 2012	#109
Riddle me this - police arrived WHILE she was on the phone with 911.	Ruby the Liberal	Apr 2012	#139
You have an armed person inside a public place.	LisaL	Apr 2012	#149
This is so sad. What's the solution ?	steve2470	Apr 2012	#154
If your option b involves vast improvements in mental health care and attitudes toward women...	slackmaster	Apr 2012	#170
it does, yes nt	steve2470	Apr 2012	#174

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