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(3,910 posts) Sat May 21, 2016, 10:51 AM May 2016

If Clinton Is So Sure She Will Win, Why Does She Need To Mislead Us About The Popular Vote? [View all]

Since the story from New York Daily News writer Shaun King came out on Thursday, there has been a big hullabaloo about what a difference adding the caucus results into the popular vote would make. Estimates have been made by the Washington Post and others, and they consistently show that it is indeed true that Clinton’s 3 million number is a misrepresentation of the true will of the people.

If Clinton is so sure that she will be the nominee, why then, does she continue to lie to the people? Ring of Fire’s Sydney Robinson discusses this.

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If Clinton Is So Sure She Will Win, Why Does She Need To Mislead Us About The Popular Vote? [View all] GoLeft TV May 2016 OP

Kickin' with disgust Faux pas May 2016 #1

Allow me to second that kick - and its qualifying intention. eom Betty Karlson May 2016 #19

Quit attacking Hillary: Sanders has lost: Hillary knows she will fight for every vote lewebley3 May 2016 #59

Pointing out her lies isn't attacking. They didn't have WMD in Iraq, hello!! Not an attack. rhett o rick May 2016 #110

Hillary doesn't lie: if she did the GOP would bast it everywhere: lewebley3 May 2016 #124

When she lied about the WMD in Iraq they cheered. They like her. She agrees with rhett o rick May 2016 #127

Hillary is very honest person: she has to be everything she does or says is examined lewebley3 May 2016 #128

Then explain why she lied to the Senate about WMD in Iraq. Her speech was almost rhett o rick May 2016 #129

Hillary ddin't lie about anything about Iraq: Bush lied about Iraq lewebley3 May 2016 #131

She didn't lie: you are just Sanders propagandist lewebley3 May 2016 #132

Her speech is available. rhett o rick May 2016 #133

The Daily News is owned by Ruppert Murdoch. No different than FOX. P.S., Sanders still lost. The End Trust Buster May 2016 #2

The Daily News has consistently favored Hillary over Bernie. KPN May 2016 #5

Ruppert Murdoch is not objective by definition. He wishes to sow the seeds of division on the Left. Trust Buster May 2016 #8

True, but that rag has favored Hillary for the most part. KPN May 2016 #9

Democrats favor Hillary and not Sanders that is the only reason Sanders lost lewebley3 May 2016 #61

Sanders has won a victory one way or other. He has exposed the corrupt culture that rhett o rick May 2016 #112

Sanders exposed nothing: we all know about citizen's united lewebley3 May 2016 #123

She needs to bring Rupert to heel RufusTFirefly May 2016 #39

There is no division on the Left. The division in the Democratic Party is between the Left rhett o rick May 2016 #111

It was Sanders himself who had poor or NO answers to the interview he gave with NYDN. Sanders owned riversedge May 2016 #76

No - tge NY Post is murdoch's rag. nt Lucky Luciano May 2016 #28

Don't confuse them with facts nxylas May 2016 #53

If votes are not counted in caucus states then they can't be included Arkansas Granny May 2016 #3

Lol! KPN May 2016 #6

I see you don't understand what a representative government stands for. n/t A Simple Game May 2016 #13

Oh KPN sees all right Depaysement May 2016 #34

See there, you missed the whole point.... or.... pangaia May 2016 #23

Popular vote cannot be used SusanLarson May 2016 #45

It's really quite simple (and it's MATH!) 1monster May 2016 #47

Power to the math! MyNameGoesHere May 2016 #50

Never did understand Bernie math. LOL Laser102 May 2016 #81

And I'm not sure you're understanding Hillary Math either. 2banon May 2016 #114

this is really important information. thank you! Merryland May 2016 #4

For the same reason Trump is always bragging about his crowd and (ahem) hand size corkhead May 2016 #7

Hillary is winning the popular vote. hrmjustin May 2016 #10

She's the greatest thing ever. They just can't (or won't) see it. Gene Debs May 2016 #11

She's the greatest thing ever if you like Gary 50 May 2016 #15

Trust me, that was twelve tons of sarcasm. A comment on the apparent ironclad inability of Gene Debs May 2016 #18

:) 2banon May 2016 #115

Hillary is a politician: she is not applying for St.hood: She will work with her party lewebley3 May 2016 #64

Hillary Clinton's "party" consists of Hillary Clinton. Gene Debs May 2016 #78

LOL! Plucketeer May 2016 #31

Ain't you cute! hrmjustin May 2016 #32

Spent too much time around the Bushes. Downwinder May 2016 #12

If that were true she would not be Dem: Hillary is not a trust baby lewebley3 May 2016 #65

It depends on what is, is Geronimoe May 2016 #14

She is quoting the record. Yes, Hillary will win. Bernie has no rational chance. Sancho May 2016 #16

Hillary's big numerical lead is due to her having won in Southern states, many of which JDPriestly May 2016 #21

Arguments in favor of Bernie or against Hillary don't matter any more... Sancho May 2016 #27

So - you say to all the folks voting on June 7th... Plucketeer May 2016 #33

No...that's the size of the lead Hillary has... Sancho May 2016 #36

Hillary's run Plucketeer May 2016 #38

Not true...Bernie was lucky and he was treated more than fairly. Sancho May 2016 #57

On every point you are wrong. JDPriestly May 2016 #108

It's simply because Hillary ran a great campaign and got more votes, AlbertCat May 2016 #54

Bernie has immense support in California, and we would like to vote. JDPriestly May 2016 #105

Move earlier...we did in Florida.... Sancho May 2016 #107

Obama and ICE are currently running a deportation campaign. JDPriestly May 2016 #109

If you call a sleazy, slimy, lying campaign great... it was disgusting. cui bono May 2016 #119

Sanders is helping Trump now: Sanders had his chance he lost lewebley3 May 2016 #63

Beware! BOT Plucketeer May 2016 #73

Sanders is helping Trump now AlbertCat May 2016 #93

That attitude actually makes a Democratic win by any candidate JDPriestly May 2016 #103

+1 nt Duval May 2016 #29

FFS, even people in the south knew who Bernie was when they voted. Arkansas Granny May 2016 #62

Bernie's platform, his honesty and his good character have become JDPriestly May 2016 #104

Remember when we were told gordyfl May 2016 #88

.....! KoKo May 2016 #135

I believe yoju missed the point.. or.. you didn't miss the point.. pangaia May 2016 #24

Thanks for this post. It sets the record straight. JDPriestly May 2016 #17

one each for each vote won at the caucus Fresh_Start May 2016 #26

It's what she does best. smiley May 2016 #20

"... why then, does she continue to lie to the people?" pangaia May 2016 #22

Lying is so natural to her. It's 840high May 2016 #87

For 18th Time Today, Hillary Asks Aide if Bernie Has Conceded Yet LS_Editor May 2016 #25

Sanders has proven he doesn't have leadership qualities: his people are bullies lewebley3 May 2016 #67

How's that? LS_Editor May 2016 #90

Lame meme perpetrated by the DNC/Clinton establishment. KPN May 2016 #121

Will pass this on for sure! We have our State Convention coming up Equinox Moon May 2016 #30

"We're winning the popular vote" ~Hillary Clinton, 2008 LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #35

very interesting, thanks grasswire May 2016 #83

For the presumptive nominee, she's still doing a lot of nasty stuff RufusTFirefly May 2016 #37

3M+ - no amount of bernie-math changes the facts DrDan May 2016 #40

It's the number cited by every reputable source BainsBane May 2016 #41

If numbers do not lie why does Hillary need to do it so often? Ford_Prefect May 2016 #42

Hillary doesn't lie: Sander is lying to his supporters he has lost lewebley3 May 2016 #68

On the evidence she has repeatedly and about substantial issues. In this case the numbers. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #72

If she's so certain Wibly May 2016 #43

Sanders people, if that is what you are - asiliveandbreathe May 2016 #49

Call me names Wibly May 2016 #98

Hillary is not the only one that is certain: anyone with math skills knows Hillary has lewebley3 May 2016 #69

Only if its special Clinton math Wibly May 2016 #94

Another misleading OP SCantiGOP May 2016 #44

keep it up folk's - you surely are hell bent for election asiliveandbreathe May 2016 #46

When Hillary feels threatened Boldine May 2016 #48

Hillary never feels threatened she is a fighter: She will take on the Trump the bully lewebley3 May 2016 #74

Not a fighter, but a bare-knuckles scrapper Boldine May 2016 #82

Hopefully she will have whatever it takes: the poor and elderly are at risk: lewebley3 May 2016 #84

In the world of propaganda it's called bandwagoning azurnoir May 2016 #51

No it call math: we all arrived at same numbers: Sanders has lost: and without grace lewebley3 May 2016 #86

bandwagoning azurnoir May 2016 #91

No just adding numbers: that is all lewebley3 May 2016 #122

yep 'cause all the kewl kids are doing it azurnoir May 2016 #125

No lies, she has 3 million more people -Democrats- vote for her as President. wisteria May 2016 #52

huge numbers of her votes came from states Trump will slaughter her in AntiBank May 2016 #60

Maybe because a loser Socialist who has never even been vetted seems like a Walk away May 2016 #85

democratic socialist (a very mild one at that) and a progressive who would beat Trump AntiBank May 2016 #89

Bern has already lost to Hillary Cryptoad May 2016 #54

HIllary can lose every delegate in CA and she still wins the Nomination. AlbertCat May 2016 #58

yes, Clinton and her corporate masters want to smash, once and for all, any progressive AntiBank May 2016 #66

Nobody owns Hillary: She is her own person and always has been lewebley3 May 2016 #71

that qualifies as one of the most LUDICROUS statements I have ever seen on this board AntiBank May 2016 #75

It would to a Sander propaganda bully: if Hillary wanted to be richer she lewebley3 May 2016 #77

110+ million USD...How Hillary and Bill Clinton Parlayed Decades of Public Service into Vast Wealth AntiBank May 2016 #79

She is her own person and always has been AlbertCat May 2016 #92

If u don't win ur message is meaningless! Cryptoad May 2016 #106

If u don't win ur message is meaningless! AlbertCat May 2016 #113

She is up over 3 million votes over Bernie...she needs 92 more delegates... beachbumbob May 2016 #56

Proof please Wibly May 2016 #95

Sorry, but Hillary Clinton is winning the popular vote — by a wide margin reACTIONary May 2016 #70

Too funny Wibly May 2016 #96

LOL, right up there with.... reACTIONary May 2016 #100

She's not misleading RandySF May 2016 #80

What? Wibly May 2016 #97

No, its not misleading... reACTIONary May 2016 #101

She's telling the truth. Even Sanders admits it. He says over and ove that he has received lunamagica May 2016 #99

She is not the one misleadingshe is up by three million votes, this is a fact. Thinkingabout May 2016 #102

A misleading campaign means a misleading presidency felix_numinous May 2016 #116

Yes...it's Always about Business! Now that they have the Money! KoKo May 2016 #134

Lying liars lie. It's pathological for her, as natural as breathing. AtomicKitten May 2016 #117

Just might be compulsive since that seems to be what she does even when the truth serves better emsimon33 May 2016 #118

Because without lies it doesn't look so certain. nt thereismore May 2016 #120

Shaun King's attempt at analysis is simply wrong Gothmog May 2016 #126

Stop trying to undo the will of the majority of democrats youceyec May 2016 #130

When bullshit is all you've got... dchill May 2016 #136