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Showing Original Post only (View all)Daily Kos & by Kos: Open primaries? No, no and hell no (HRC GP) [View all]
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Theres no problem with the first three bullet points, though those are all based on state law and elections machinery. The Democratic Party has no control over them, which is why I now advocate for the party to wholly take over the primary process.
But the idea that it is incomprehensible that non-Democrats get to choose the Democratic nominee is, well, incomprehensible.
There is no point to a political party unless that party can decide for itself who represents it. It costs nothing to register as a Democrat (or Republican). No one even knows which party you register under. The only reason to register as an independent is because you think you are too good or pure or uncorrupted to be a member of a party. And if thats the case? Good for you! We are all duly impressed. So shiny and perfect!
But fuck you, you dont get to pick our candidates.
I dont walk into a Shriners meeting, tell them they all suck and I hate their fez hats and cool stupid little parade cars, then demand a say in who leads the organization. That would be absurd and Id be laughed out of the room. So why would anyone think differently about political parties? Yeah, Im laughing Bernies idea out of the room.
You want a say in who a party nominates, join it. If you are too cool to join it, then you are too cool to have a say. Simple. Period. End of story.
Of course, Sanders list doesnt include caucuses, which are an abomination of democracy and dramatically depressed turnout (and I wrote that piece before the Nebraska and Washington non-binding primaries, which had dramatically bigger turnout than the caucuseseven though they did not matter). I wonder why the guy who insisted on everyone voting would suddenly clamp down when discussing those undemocratic caucuses?
But the idea that it is incomprehensible that non-Democrats get to choose the Democratic nominee is, well, incomprehensible.
There is no point to a political party unless that party can decide for itself who represents it. It costs nothing to register as a Democrat (or Republican). No one even knows which party you register under. The only reason to register as an independent is because you think you are too good or pure or uncorrupted to be a member of a party. And if thats the case? Good for you! We are all duly impressed. So shiny and perfect!
But fuck you, you dont get to pick our candidates.
I dont walk into a Shriners meeting, tell them they all suck and I hate their fez hats and cool stupid little parade cars, then demand a say in who leads the organization. That would be absurd and Id be laughed out of the room. So why would anyone think differently about political parties? Yeah, Im laughing Bernies idea out of the room.
You want a say in who a party nominates, join it. If you are too cool to join it, then you are too cool to have a say. Simple. Period. End of story.
Of course, Sanders list doesnt include caucuses, which are an abomination of democracy and dramatically depressed turnout (and I wrote that piece before the Nebraska and Washington non-binding primaries, which had dramatically bigger turnout than the caucuseseven though they did not matter). I wonder why the guy who insisted on everyone voting would suddenly clamp down when discussing those undemocratic caucuses?
CONCLUSION:
As for open primaries? Hell no. If you want a say, join the party.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/06/15/1538965/-Open-primaries-No-no-and-hell-no
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Join it and participate in it, and to hell with a caucus. Those are anti-democratic.
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#1
The malcontents are the people who can't do the hard work to make an alternate party.
BobbyDrake
Jun 2016
#4
I'm with Kos on this, and where the hell do I sign up? I think the party's rank-n-file should get..
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2016
#6
I've been following Presidential elections since the early 1970s, and I don't recall....
George II
Jun 2016
#7
Gerrymandering is performed by the party in charge, it should be done away with but in Texas
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#14
Yes Democrats is also guilty of gerrymandering. Let it go by county lines, they are already drawn
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#18
If a third party is going to be viable they need to be better organized.
LiberalFighter
Jun 2016
#26
Using the leverage of his adoring followers to fire DWS who was leaving after the convention....
Walk away
Jun 2016
#11
And, that's his MO.. "petty and mean spirited".. he lost so he has to blame it on anyone
Cha
Jun 2016
#15
These things are in place to keep from having a Trump on the Democratic ticket
liberal N proud
Jun 2016
#27