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Mon Apr 9, 2012, 09:38 PM

longship (17,589 posts)

9. Okay! How do you store energy?

The freaking sun goes down. The solar arrays aren't producing any power. But it's dark and people still want to watch TV, and use their computers to surf the Net, and to recharge their plug-in hybrid cars. Where the fuck do you get the power when you've based your power on solar? Or on wind power when climate change, or the vagaries of weather, means that where you've put the windmills is not where the winds are blowing right now.

Where are you going to get your power without a method to store it?

Jesus Christ, man. Where do you think it comes from? The power needs come from real time generation. Unless you can store the power it is either used, or it is dumped. This ain't fucking magic. If you can't store the excess energy, it's useless.

The sun doesn't shine 24 hours, nor does the wind blow (Santa Anna screamers notwithstanding.)

Fer Christ sakes, this is basic science.

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37 replies	Author	Time	Post
The 30-year itch America’s nuclear industry struggles to get off the floor [View all]	kristopher	Apr 2012	OP
obsolete technology. end our obsession with war and go alternative energy big time nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#1
As usual, public opinion lags the science	longship	Apr 2012	#2
Why do you think we need nuclear power...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#3
Several reasons	longship	Apr 2012	#4
So you believe in "The Baseload Myth"?	kristopher	Apr 2012	#6
Okay! How do you store energy?	longship	Apr 2012	#9
You say "this is basic science"?	kristopher	Apr 2012	#10
Jesus Christ! You still don't understand real time demand!	longship	Apr 2012	#13
I understand real time demand extremely well.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#15
You don't understand the main issue here	longship	Apr 2012	#18
I told you the answer - it is the same answer we use now, a grid.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#20
Where is the fucking storage in this fucking grid?	longship	Apr 2012	#21
I asked where you are getting your information	kristopher	Apr 2012	#22
Okay, let's assume that	longship	Apr 2012	#25
You clearly do not "hate nuclear power"	kristopher	Apr 2012	#26
What forms of renewable energy do you have at your house?	XemaSab	Apr 2012	#33
I agree that we will need nuclear power	johnd83	Apr 2012	#5
Agreed. Nuke power tech is antiquated.	longship	Apr 2012	#7
They have been researched.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#8
Agreed in practice, but not in principle	longship	Apr 2012	#11
Thorium has a host of its own problems	kristopher	Apr 2012	#12
That is precisely why we need To fund research	longship	Apr 2012	#16
Solar and wind do not have to do it alone	kristopher	Apr 2012	#19
Propaganda?	longship	Apr 2012	#23
You aren't quoting science, you are quoting propaganda.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#24
You obviously do not want to have a meaningful discussion	longship	Apr 2012	#27
You aren't engaging in a discussion.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#28
These are my view of the facts. Tell me where I am mistaken.	longship	Apr 2012	#29
I've already answered that...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#30
Blah, blah, blah, blah	longship	Apr 2012	#31
The current grid operates almost entirely on stored energy...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#32
The fucking grid does not store power	longship	Apr 2012	#34
And yet you DO RECOMMEND AND ENDORSE NUCLEAR	kristopher	Apr 2012	#35
That's enough	longship	Apr 2012	#36
That's a lot easier than actually addressing the information...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#37
Voyager is not really a good example	johnd83	Apr 2012	#14
the real problem is the enormous cost... of nuclear energy	kristopher	Apr 2012	#17

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