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Mon Apr 9, 2012, 11:06 PM

longship (18,191 posts)

18. You don't understand the main issue here

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When the fucking sun sets you have no solar power! When the Santa Anna winds calm, again, no fucking power. How do you fucking supply power to Southern fucking California under those conditions?

You either have to store the power, a technology which we do not yet have, or you have to provide the power using another technology.

If you cannot provide another source which neither adds CO2 to the atmosphere or provides the ability to store energy for when it is needed, you are just talking B.S.

These are the technological issues we have to solve. If it can be done without nuke power, so much the better. I just don't see any tech that can do it.

I would welcome your response to either the storage or the 24 hour generation issue. Because we're not going to get it done without both.

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37 replies	Author	Time	Post
The 30-year itch America’s nuclear industry struggles to get off the floor [View all]	kristopher	Apr 2012	OP
obsolete technology. end our obsession with war and go alternative energy big time nt	msongs	Apr 2012	#1
As usual, public opinion lags the science	longship	Apr 2012	#2
Why do you think we need nuclear power...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#3
Several reasons	longship	Apr 2012	#4
So you believe in "The Baseload Myth"?	kristopher	Apr 2012	#6
Okay! How do you store energy?	longship	Apr 2012	#9
You say "this is basic science"?	kristopher	Apr 2012	#10
Jesus Christ! You still don't understand real time demand!	longship	Apr 2012	#13
I understand real time demand extremely well.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#15
You don't understand the main issue here	longship	Apr 2012	#18
I told you the answer - it is the same answer we use now, a grid.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#20
Where is the fucking storage in this fucking grid?	longship	Apr 2012	#21
I asked where you are getting your information	kristopher	Apr 2012	#22
Okay, let's assume that	longship	Apr 2012	#25
You clearly do not "hate nuclear power"	kristopher	Apr 2012	#26
What forms of renewable energy do you have at your house?	XemaSab	Apr 2012	#33
I agree that we will need nuclear power	johnd83	Apr 2012	#5
Agreed. Nuke power tech is antiquated.	longship	Apr 2012	#7
They have been researched.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#8
Agreed in practice, but not in principle	longship	Apr 2012	#11
Thorium has a host of its own problems	kristopher	Apr 2012	#12
That is precisely why we need To fund research	longship	Apr 2012	#16
Solar and wind do not have to do it alone	kristopher	Apr 2012	#19
Propaganda?	longship	Apr 2012	#23
You aren't quoting science, you are quoting propaganda.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#24
You obviously do not want to have a meaningful discussion	longship	Apr 2012	#27
You aren't engaging in a discussion.	kristopher	Apr 2012	#28
These are my view of the facts. Tell me where I am mistaken.	longship	Apr 2012	#29
I've already answered that...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#30
Blah, blah, blah, blah	longship	Apr 2012	#31
The current grid operates almost entirely on stored energy...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#32
The fucking grid does not store power	longship	Apr 2012	#34
And yet you DO RECOMMEND AND ENDORSE NUCLEAR	kristopher	Apr 2012	#35
That's enough	longship	Apr 2012	#36
That's a lot easier than actually addressing the information...	kristopher	Apr 2012	#37
Voyager is not really a good example	johnd83	Apr 2012	#14
the real problem is the enormous cost... of nuclear energy	kristopher	Apr 2012	#17

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