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Miguelito Loveless

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15. All valid points, and I would like to make plain
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:35 PM
Jun 2020

I understand and agree with the analysis. We bought used until recently, and then made sure that our cars went to folks in need of reliable and cheap transport afterwards. With ICE cars we were usually the 3rd owner, with EVs the 2nd. In the face of plummeting gas prices, the cost per mile is harder to make, though when you factor in maintenance EVs still come out ahead. My wife and I are older, have paid off our house, and are using some of our savings to pollute less. The ROI of what we have built, has probably gone from 7 years to 10 years with falling oil prices, but, a war in the ME could reverse those savings fast. However the GHG breakeven point is about 5 years for our EVs and our solar. Excess power we don't use during the day is powering multiple houses on my block. A neighbor down the street stopped by in January to ask me a bunch of questions about our panels. He installed his own array a month ago, so between us we are producing about 90-150kWh a day. Another neighbor has also been asking questions, so perhaps I've started something.

To us, it is about clean air, and freedom from gas stations (which are really quite smelly and grimy once you spend a few months away from them), and freedom from power outages (we are in tornado/hurricane country).

I would not think to impugn your masculinity or humanity because you only drive 1000 miles a year. I would point out though, that there are a number of used EVs, under $10K, that could handle such a light driving load.

use the 2018 and save your money Fresh_Start Jan 2020 #1
That depends on what other options Phoenix61 Jan 2020 #2
The same for me exboyfil Jan 2020 #3
Are those the only two choices? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #4
No, there are at least two other choices. Quemado Jan 2021 #20
I don't want to wait another ten years or more PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #22
I'm thinking about buying a used EV kimbutgar Jan 2020 #5
I was considering a hybrid for my next car a Toyota RAV4. The ICE RAV4 gets 38 MPG doc03 Jan 2020 #6
Give the market time to sort out.. Mopar151 Jan 2020 #7
My husband often says this Freddie Jan 2020 #8
I read that GHG emissions to build a car (either EV or ICE) are about the same as what an ICE car progree Jan 2020 #9
Even in regions with mostly a coal powered grid Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #11
I'm trying not to buy another car at all, because the GHG emissions to build a car are about half progree Jun 2020 #12
Then I would recommend a used EV Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #13
I'm struggling with the used car thing, I feel even if I buy it used, I am still responsible progree Jun 2020 #14
All valid points, and I would like to make plain Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #15
If I buy, it will be used, and I'll certainly look at EV's. However, the homeowner association progree Jun 2020 #16
If we get the current troll out of office Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #17
Yeah, uh, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for those robotaxis Calculating Jan 2020 #10
Agreed, but with one nitpick Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #18
I'm sold on EV's mac2766 Jan 2021 #19
OP here: My wife and I ordered a Tesla Model Y. Quemado Jan 2021 #21
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