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In reply to the discussion: Amnesty takes action against official’s tweets [View all]azurnoir
(45,850 posts)63. it was a quote of IDF findings not B'tselems which is why only a fraction of a paragraph is snipped
Almost four year ago, between 27.12.08 and 18.01.09, the Israeli military carried out Operation Cast Lead in the Gaza Strip. This operation caused unprecedented damage to the civilian population: over 700 civilians who did not take part in the fighting were killed including entire families and over 300 minor. Thousands of civilians were injured and tens of thousands were left homeless. Investigations into this operation raised grave suspicions that Israeli forces committed war crimes. Israeli officials rejected all demands to investigate the conduct of the political and military echelon responsible for the operation. The military on its part only investigated individual incidents, and these investigations did not meet the standards of an independent and thorough investigation geared at uncovering the truth. Hamas combatants, as well as other armed Palestinian groups operating against Israel, fire at civilian targets within Israel from within Palestinian civilian areas and do not distinguish themselves from the civilian populations. This conduct is a severe violation of International Humanitarian Law and as such, it constitutes a war crime.
As was the case four years ago, Israeli officials are now using the conduct of Palestinian organizations to justify harm to Palestinian civilians. The military has committed itself to doing its utmost to minimize harm to civilians. However it also emphasized that it is not responsible for harm inflicted to civilians.
However, this position is fundamentally flawed. The fact that Hamas combatants and other organizations operate contrary to the law does not automatically justify Israeli actions that harm civilians. The fact that one side violates the law does not give the other side the right to violate it as well. Israel is still bound by the duty legal and moral to use all the means at its disposal to minimize as much as possible harm to civilians, despite Hamas' illegal conduct.
During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli military ignored this principle. B'Tselem cautions against the possibility that it will ignore it in the current operation as well, in order to justify harm to the civilian population. Therefore, and based on the lessons of the previous operation, B'Tselem wishes to emphasize some basic rules by which the military must operate, in keeping with commitments undertaken by the State of Israel
As was the case four years ago, Israeli officials are now using the conduct of Palestinian organizations to justify harm to Palestinian civilians. The military has committed itself to doing its utmost to minimize harm to civilians. However it also emphasized that it is not responsible for harm inflicted to civilians.
However, this position is fundamentally flawed. The fact that Hamas combatants and other organizations operate contrary to the law does not automatically justify Israeli actions that harm civilians. The fact that one side violates the law does not give the other side the right to violate it as well. Israel is still bound by the duty legal and moral to use all the means at its disposal to minimize as much as possible harm to civilians, despite Hamas' illegal conduct.
During Operation Cast Lead, the Israeli military ignored this principle. B'Tselem cautions against the possibility that it will ignore it in the current operation as well, in order to justify harm to the civilian population. Therefore, and based on the lessons of the previous operation, B'Tselem wishes to emphasize some basic rules by which the military must operate, in keeping with commitments undertaken by the State of Israel
http://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20121115_gaza_operation
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as I told another poster being antiIsrael (really antioccupation) is as related to antisemitism
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#4
Amnesty has vigilantly reported human rights abuses in every Arab and Muslim country.
Ken Burch
Nov 2012
#57
NOBODY here "secretly smiles about rockets attacks or bus bombers against Israel"
Ken Burch
Nov 2012
#56
These organizations seem to show that it is more prevalent than we all previously thought,
King_David
Nov 2012
#7
I have begun to believe, IMvHO, that any information with regards to Israel
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#52
hmmm it seems you are claiming that while it is antisemtic to be antiIsrael's occupation
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#20
okay I'll agree that antisemitism is as much a part of the ProPalestinian movement
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#26
I am sure you would feel terrible if you donated to AI or HRW and some others I've seen listed too n
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#19
so in your opinion that the organiztion took action against her is meaningless
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#24
These groups are absolutely obsessed with Israel and apparrently the Jews too
King_David
Nov 2012
#45
I thought is important that AI took action against one of its members for their actions
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#32
why ever would you say that ? an employee of AI made an antisemtic tweet and AI is taking action
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#38
well I guess that;s your opinion but Amnesty and I found that tweet offensive because
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#44
it was a quote of IDF findings not B'tselems which is why only a fraction of a paragraph is snipped
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#63
Keep deflecting. B'tselem stated as fact Hamas commits war crimes via human shielding.
shira
Nov 2012
#70
that is not in the article anyone who's ever read a Google translation from Arabic to English
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#71