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shira

(30,109 posts)
31. Here's the International Law you're asking for...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:30 PM
Jan 2013
http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/mandate_for_palestine/mandate_for_palestine.htm

The “Mandate” Defined Where Jews Are and Are Not Permitted to Settle

The “Mandate for Palestine” document did not set final borders. It left this for the Mandatory to stipulate in a binding appendix to the final document in the form of a memorandum. However, Article 6 of the “Mandate” clearly states:

“The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in co-operation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.”


Article 25 of the “Mandate for Palestine” entitled the Mandatory to change the terms of the Mandate in the territory east of the Jordan River:

“In the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provision of this Mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions ...”


Great Britain activated this option in the above-mentioned memorandum of September 16, 1922, which the Mandatory sent to the League of Nations and which the League subsequently approved – making it a legally binding integral part of the “Mandate.”

Thus the “Mandate for Palestine” brought to fruition a fourth Arab state east of the Jordan River, realized in 1946 when the Hashemite Kingdom of Trans-Jordan was granted independence from Great Britain.

All the clauses concerning a Jewish National Home would not apply to this territory Trans-Jordan of the original Mandate, as is clearly stated:

“The following provisions of the Mandate for Palestine are not applicable to the territory known as Trans-Jordan, which comprises all territory lying to the east of a line drawn from ... up the centre of the Wady Araba, Dead Sea and River Jordan. ... His Majesty’s Government accept[s] full responsibility as Mandatory for Trans-Jordan.”


The creation of an Arab state in eastern Palestine (today Jordan) on 77 percent of the landmass of the original Mandate intended for a Jewish National Home in no way changed the status of Jews west of the Jordan River, nor did it inhibit their right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

These documents are the last legally binding documents regarding the status of what is commonly called “the West Bank and Gaza.”

The September 16, 1922 memorandum is also the last modification of the official terms of the Mandate on record by the League of Nations or by its legal successor – the United Nations – in accordance with Article 27 of the Mandate that states unequivocally:

“The consent of the Council of the League of Nations is required for any modification of the terms of this mandate.”24


United Nations Charter recognizes the UN’s obligation to uphold the commitments of its predecessor – the League of Nations.25
Israel’s jihad is mine [View all] Mosby Jan 2013 OP
Incredible article ...wow! zellie Jan 2013 #1
Our hard Left anti-Israel friends here would say she's a Rightwinger.... shira Jan 2013 #2
"They prefer the extremely fanatical, rightwing warmongering totalitarian Islamists R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #3
What do you have to say about the OP? n/t shira Jan 2013 #4
The doctor makes some very valid points which should be lauded, but since I am not one of the R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #5
How should those valid points be translated into action? shira Jan 2013 #8
Why don't you tell the board your feelings on how to achieve that. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #10
Hebron is the site of the oldest Jewish community in the world Mosby Jan 2013 #11
Spare me your credibility crap nonsense. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #14
Hebron's home to the most extreme and violent settlers who terrorise Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #21
They are not all rw settlers Mosby Jan 2013 #65
Even if there's a few who aren't, why should we ignore the vast majority who are? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #74
Compromise. Two states for 2 people. Something along the lines of Geneva.... shira Jan 2013 #12
"but compromise they must if there is to be peace." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #15
This dehumanization of yours, ie., racists, colonialists, apartheidists, thieves... shira Jan 2013 #16
Exact citation of "international law" going back to 1920 delrem Jan 2013 #22
I don't believe that much of substance will come from your request. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #30
Here's the International Law you're asking for... shira Jan 2013 #31
That author also claims the Palestinians don't exist as a people. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #33
Violet, you deny there's a Jewish nation (people) so are you an extreme hatemonger/bigot? shira Jan 2013 #43
I do not, and have never denied the existence of Jews or Israelis.... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #44
You deny Jewish peoplehood and you did it throughout that thread shira Jan 2013 #47
I did nothing of the sort, so quit the bullshit right now... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #49
There's a written record of what you wrote at that link. It's clear as day... shira Jan 2013 #51
Yet again. I have never denied the existence of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #53
So the Jews are a nation then, right? Why did you argue against that? shira Jan 2013 #54
You falsely claimed that I deny the existance of Jews as a people. You need to apologise... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #56
The Jewish people are a nation. Peoplehood = Nation. Synonymous terms. shira Jan 2013 #57
Yet again. I have NEVER denied the existance of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #59
Right. But you've denied their nationhood. shira Jan 2013 #62
Wrong. I've done nothing of the sort. I don't believe anything of the sort. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #64
That's not what was written. You would know it if you would settle down R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #69
I do applaud you, my friend, for scouring the internets to find such a fine example R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #35
Hilarious oberliner Jan 2013 #36
I don't see what's "hilarious" about it. Care to explain, exactly? e.g. delrem Jan 2013 #40
Wikipedia is not a reliable source oberliner Jan 2013 #45
"I think it's funny that anything sourced from there would be deemed 'the truth'." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #67
If you wish to rebut the wik with something more reliable than M&F.org R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #66
Did you check out those clauses in the original Palestine Mandate.... shira Jan 2013 #41
Are you for real? Yr now going to deny that someone who denies the Palestinians are a people is RW? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #46
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #48
Uh, the guy's a fucking bigoted RW piece of crap. So sorry if that offends you... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #50
And that guy makes the same argument you do WRT an ethnicity seeing itself as a people. shira Jan 2013 #52
*sigh* What part of what I've said isn't sinking in? I do NOT deny the existence of Jews... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #55
Then you agree that Jews are a nation, as they see themselves? n/t shira Jan 2013 #58
Yet again, I have never denied the existance of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #60
So you're saying the Jews are a people but denying they're a nation. shira Jan 2013 #61
I'm still waiting for the apology for the untrue accusation you made... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #63
Exact words: Balfour Declaration delrem Jan 2013 #39
Nice try. shira Jan 2013 #42
"in Palestine" is the exact term of the mandate! delrem Jan 2013 #71
My poor misguided friend. They're not dehumanizations when they aparently are true. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #68
I apologize ..you missed the entire point of the article. zellie Jan 2013 #13
I agree.... She's spot on. zellie Jan 2013 #9
Who... LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #18
I'd also like to know who these DUers are supposed to be... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #20
Not having DUers on ignore might help oberliner Jan 2013 #24
oh come on, be reasonable! delrem Jan 2013 #72
You really need to know whom, now? n/t shira Jan 2013 #23
Several people are asking you who. So, who are they, Shira? n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #32
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #28
Your objective ? Do you ever read what you post ? orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #26
What do you think of the OP? Bigoted? Spot-on? n/t shira Jan 2013 #29
First you must seek it, before it sets you free orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #27
"Jews for Jesus" was the first thought that came to mind Alamuti Lotus Jan 2013 #6
Thanks for your input. n/t shira Jan 2013 #7
Disagree LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #17
LW Israeli Jews don't make broadbrush comments about Jews the way she does about Muslims. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #19
Boy do you not have a clue what you are talking about oberliner Jan 2013 #25
I do not like Hamas, and I particularly dislike their methods. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #34
That is some perspective you have there. zellie Jan 2013 #37
Check the bible. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #38
This has something to do with the general savagery of people in those days, not with Jews. LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #70
I don't think human savagery is confined to time intervals. delrem Jan 2013 #73
I don't see a great deal of difference this time around. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #75
let me congratulate you... pelsar Jan 2013 #76
Wow oberliner Jan 2013 #77
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