Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Israel/Palestine

In reply to the discussion: Israel’s jihad is mine [View all]

delrem

(9,688 posts)
40. I don't see what's "hilarious" about it. Care to explain, exactly? e.g.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:10 AM - Edit history (1)

on edit I'm adding this link:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Palestine_Mandate

This wiki source contains the entire text, word for word, with no commentary, so with not even an inadvertent skew/bias in the presentation.
To be sure, the world has moved on since the time of the British Mandate!
Furthermore, I have some doubts re. whether this directive is entirely consistent... but nevertheless, it is what it is.

I don't see the point in disparaging a wiki source. All sources tend to be skewed to a purpose, some more than others, and shira's source
http://www.mythsandfacts.org/
seems more "hilariously" devoted to such an end than Wikipedia. Nevertheless, mythsandfacts.org states a case based on embedded quotations, so it has every right to be heard. The embedded quotations at the very least guarantee that the case presented is intended to be relevant. Likewise other sources using embedded quotations which might present a contrary case have a right to be heard, for the same reason. In fact, there's a lot of empty heat in I/P and this focus on actual historical documentation of attempts to actualize a regime of international law based on some notion of "justice for all" is a breath of fresh air. IMO.

Israel’s jihad is mine [View all] Mosby Jan 2013 OP
Incredible article ...wow! zellie Jan 2013 #1
Our hard Left anti-Israel friends here would say she's a Rightwinger.... shira Jan 2013 #2
"They prefer the extremely fanatical, rightwing warmongering totalitarian Islamists R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #3
What do you have to say about the OP? n/t shira Jan 2013 #4
The doctor makes some very valid points which should be lauded, but since I am not one of the R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #5
How should those valid points be translated into action? shira Jan 2013 #8
Why don't you tell the board your feelings on how to achieve that. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #10
Hebron is the site of the oldest Jewish community in the world Mosby Jan 2013 #11
Spare me your credibility crap nonsense. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #14
Hebron's home to the most extreme and violent settlers who terrorise Palestinians... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #21
They are not all rw settlers Mosby Jan 2013 #65
Even if there's a few who aren't, why should we ignore the vast majority who are? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #74
Compromise. Two states for 2 people. Something along the lines of Geneva.... shira Jan 2013 #12
"but compromise they must if there is to be peace." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #15
This dehumanization of yours, ie., racists, colonialists, apartheidists, thieves... shira Jan 2013 #16
Exact citation of "international law" going back to 1920 delrem Jan 2013 #22
I don't believe that much of substance will come from your request. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #30
Here's the International Law you're asking for... shira Jan 2013 #31
That author also claims the Palestinians don't exist as a people. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #33
Violet, you deny there's a Jewish nation (people) so are you an extreme hatemonger/bigot? shira Jan 2013 #43
I do not, and have never denied the existence of Jews or Israelis.... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #44
You deny Jewish peoplehood and you did it throughout that thread shira Jan 2013 #47
I did nothing of the sort, so quit the bullshit right now... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #49
There's a written record of what you wrote at that link. It's clear as day... shira Jan 2013 #51
Yet again. I have never denied the existence of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #53
So the Jews are a nation then, right? Why did you argue against that? shira Jan 2013 #54
You falsely claimed that I deny the existance of Jews as a people. You need to apologise... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #56
The Jewish people are a nation. Peoplehood = Nation. Synonymous terms. shira Jan 2013 #57
Yet again. I have NEVER denied the existance of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #59
Right. But you've denied their nationhood. shira Jan 2013 #62
Wrong. I've done nothing of the sort. I don't believe anything of the sort. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #64
That's not what was written. You would know it if you would settle down R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #69
I do applaud you, my friend, for scouring the internets to find such a fine example R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #35
Hilarious oberliner Jan 2013 #36
I don't see what's "hilarious" about it. Care to explain, exactly? e.g. delrem Jan 2013 #40
Wikipedia is not a reliable source oberliner Jan 2013 #45
"I think it's funny that anything sourced from there would be deemed 'the truth'." R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #67
If you wish to rebut the wik with something more reliable than M&F.org R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #66
Did you check out those clauses in the original Palestine Mandate.... shira Jan 2013 #41
Are you for real? Yr now going to deny that someone who denies the Palestinians are a people is RW? Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #46
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #48
Uh, the guy's a fucking bigoted RW piece of crap. So sorry if that offends you... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #50
And that guy makes the same argument you do WRT an ethnicity seeing itself as a people. shira Jan 2013 #52
*sigh* What part of what I've said isn't sinking in? I do NOT deny the existence of Jews... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #55
Then you agree that Jews are a nation, as they see themselves? n/t shira Jan 2013 #58
Yet again, I have never denied the existance of the Jewish people... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #60
So you're saying the Jews are a people but denying they're a nation. shira Jan 2013 #61
I'm still waiting for the apology for the untrue accusation you made... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #63
Exact words: Balfour Declaration delrem Jan 2013 #39
Nice try. shira Jan 2013 #42
"in Palestine" is the exact term of the mandate! delrem Jan 2013 #71
My poor misguided friend. They're not dehumanizations when they aparently are true. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #68
I apologize ..you missed the entire point of the article. zellie Jan 2013 #13
I agree.... She's spot on. zellie Jan 2013 #9
Who... LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #18
I'd also like to know who these DUers are supposed to be... Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #20
Not having DUers on ignore might help oberliner Jan 2013 #24
oh come on, be reasonable! delrem Jan 2013 #72
You really need to know whom, now? n/t shira Jan 2013 #23
Several people are asking you who. So, who are they, Shira? n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #32
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #28
Your objective ? Do you ever read what you post ? orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #26
What do you think of the OP? Bigoted? Spot-on? n/t shira Jan 2013 #29
First you must seek it, before it sets you free orpupilofnature57 Jan 2013 #27
"Jews for Jesus" was the first thought that came to mind Alamuti Lotus Jan 2013 #6
Thanks for your input. n/t shira Jan 2013 #7
Disagree LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #17
LW Israeli Jews don't make broadbrush comments about Jews the way she does about Muslims. Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #19
Boy do you not have a clue what you are talking about oberliner Jan 2013 #25
I do not like Hamas, and I particularly dislike their methods. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #34
That is some perspective you have there. zellie Jan 2013 #37
Check the bible. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #38
This has something to do with the general savagery of people in those days, not with Jews. LeftishBrit Jan 2013 #70
I don't think human savagery is confined to time intervals. delrem Jan 2013 #73
I don't see a great deal of difference this time around. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #75
let me congratulate you... pelsar Jan 2013 #76
Wow oberliner Jan 2013 #77
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Israel/Palestine»Israel’s jihad is mine»Reply #40